{"id":27300,"date":"2026-05-05T00:22:12","date_gmt":"2026-05-05T00:22:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/27300\/"},"modified":"2026-05-05T00:22:12","modified_gmt":"2026-05-05T00:22:12","slug":"openais-president-does-all-the-things-except-answer-a-question","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ai\/27300\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI\u2019s president does \u2018all the things,\u2019 except\u00a0answer a question"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _17nnmdy6 _17nnmdy5 _1xwtict1\">The strongest witness for Elon Musk\u2019s case against OpenAI so far has been Greg Brockman\u2019s journal. Brockman himself is running as a close second.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Brockman was called to the stand in a rather unusual way \u2014 he was cross-examined first, followed by a direct examination \u2014 and he had some serious high school debate club energy. There was a lot of \u201cI wouldn\u2019t characterize it that way,\u201d \u201cI wouldn\u2019t say it that way,\u201d and \u201cThat sounds like something I wrote. Can I see it in context?\u201d When Musk\u2019s attorney, Steven Molo, read some of the evidence aloud, Brockman would pedantically correct him if he skipped a word, even if that word was \u201ca\u201d or \u201cthe.\u201d When asked if Microsoft\u2019s $10 billion investment was the biggest financial event at OpenAI, Brockman replied it was the only $10 billion investment. Come on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">I have previously said that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2023\/10\/31\/23940814\/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-alameda-customer-funds-fraud-trial\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">if you can define the word \u201cepistemology,\u201d you should not testify in your own defense<\/a>. So the lawyer skipped a word \u2014 is it really worth taking up the jury\u2019s time to tell us all that? Save being the world\u2019s cleverest boy for your parents.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup qnnwq2 _1xwtict9\">\u201cthat\u2019d be pretty morally bankrupt.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">This would have been bad enough. But the journal entries \u2014 a series of text files from his computer \u2014 were worse, because they were very clear about Brockman\u2019s greed and opportunism at least circa 2017. Here\u2019s one: \u201cbtw another realization from this is that it\u2019d be wrong to steal the non-profit from him. to convert to a b-corp without him. that\u2019d be pretty morally bankrupt and he\u2019s really not an idiot.\u201d Here\u2019s another: \u201cmaybe we should just flip to a for-profit. making money for us sounds great and all.\u201d There\u2019s also this: \u201ccannot say we are committed to the non-profit. don\u2019t wanna say we\u2019re committed. if three months later we\u2019re doing a b-corp it is a lie.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cIt\u2019d be wrong to steal the non-profit from him\u201d is very close to Musk\u2019s \u201csteal a charity\u201d line, I notice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">We haven\u2019t finished the direct examination yet, so I\u2019m sure we\u2019ll be hearing something exculpatory about the events that inspired these entries. But between Brockman\u2019s attitude toward the cross and the journal entries, I don\u2019t think I\u2019d trust him to watch my bag while I used the restroom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Musk\u2019s team is trying to paint Brockman as being greedy, which I buy. The infamous \u201cWhat will take me to $1B?\u201d from Brockman\u2019s journal made an appearance. We established that Brockman\u2019s stake in OpenAI\u2019s for-profit was worth about $30 billion. Molo asked Brockman why he hadn\u2019t donated $29 billion to OpenAI\u2019s non-profit arm if $1 billion was enough for him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup qnnwq2 _1xwtict9\">\u201cWhy are we fighting about the fucking purple box?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Brockman could have said something like, \u201cIf I dumped all my holdings all at once, OpenAI would receive a lot less than $39 billion, because that\u2019s how supply and demand works.\u201d He might have said something like, \u201cIt\u2019s an important signal to other investors for me to have skin in the game.\u201d Or maybe, \u201cThat\u2019s just my net worth on paper. It\u2019s not real.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">He didn\u2019t do any of this. Brockman replied with nonsense about how much the non-profit\u2019s stake in the for-profit was worth. Molo said that didn\u2019t answer his question and asked again. We went back and forth on this for quite some time; the jury\u2019s heads snapped to and fro as though they were watching a tennis match. Brockman never did answer the question.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">No detail was too small to argue over. Molo asked if purple boxes were something OpenAI generally used to call attention to something important, and Brockman said no. Then we all read in the document that OpenAI generally used them in employee and investor paperwork to highlight important things. In my notes I have written, \u201cWhy are we fighting about the fucking purple box?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Molo landed another major blow by bringing up the various deals that OpenAI had with companies Brockman had a stake in: Cerebras, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/ai-artificial-intelligence\/822011\/coreweave-debt-data-center-ai\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">CoreWeave<\/a>, Stripe, and Helion Energy. Given the sheer number of companies that use Stripe, its OpenAI deal seems piddling \u2014 but the OpenAI commitments seriously matter to both Cerebras and CoreWeave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup qnnwq2 _1xwtict9\">\u201cI do all the things.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Brockman also has direct financial ties to Altman because of a compensation package he was offered when they started OpenAI. He holds a 1 percent stake in Altman\u2019s family office, which Brockman got in lieu of Y Combinator stock because \u201cwe ran out of Y Combinator stock fulfilling other [employees\u2019] offers.\u201d In a 2017 email, Musk\u2019s bodyman, Jared Birchall, writes to Musk that Altman disclosed that to him, and Musk forwards the Birchall email to Brockman with a \u201c??\u201d Apparently Musk didn\u2019t know about the deal, and Brockman had to explain it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">I am dwelling on the various ways that Brockman made himself untrustworthy because it\u2019s fun to watch powerful men squirm. But it also has colored my view of his direct testimony, which started afterwards. Brockman began by telling a story of OpenAI\u2019s founding that sounded like it had been polished for a thousand podcasts and keynote speeches. When asked what he did as the president of OpenAI, he replied, \u201cI do all the things.\u201d If we had not been in a courtroom, I would have screamed. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2023\/10\/25\/23930673\/sam-bankman-fried-trial-sbf-language-yolo-yup-stuff-things\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Millennial vocabulary is a fucking tragedy<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">In this telling, OpenAI was Brockman and Sam Altman\u2019s idea. Brockman had told Altman about his interest in AI as he was leaving Stripe (\u201cI\u2019m thinking about doing an AI thing,\u201d to which Altman apparently said, \u201cI\u2019m also thinking about doing an AI thing.\u201d). They kept in touch. The original idea was purportedly to have a Y Combinator research arm, which Musk shot down because he didn\u2019t want to be affiliated with Y Combinator.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup qnnwq2 _1xwtict9\">Musk seemed \u201cvery consistent and fixated\u201d on Hassabis<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Imagine a montage of cozy dinners, trips to Napa (\u201cour van got stalled for an hour and a half in traffic and no one noticed\u201d because the conversation was so good), AI conferences. Gee whiz! It was so neat-o! Everyone got along so well and had such great creative energy! We were treated to a very long retelling of Ilya Sutskever waffling about leaving Google, and then a photo Brockman took of the first day of OpenAI, with everyone working from his apartment. (In the photo: Altman. Missing: Musk.) I think you get my drift; I certainly got Brockman\u2019s. This was Altman\u2019s and Brockman\u2019s baby. It was only after Musk had done closing calls with the team that Altman and Brockman had assembled that Musk told them he wanted to be more involved.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Musk appeared in the testimony as a distant and at times menacing figure. At one dinner, he asked if Google\u2019s Denis Hassabis was evil. In fact, Musk seemed \u201cvery consistent and fixated\u201d on Hassabis, and never so much as mentioned Larry Page, who <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/tech\/919961\/musk-recalls-meeting-sam-altman\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">in Musk\u2019s telling was the reason OpenAI came to be<\/a>. In text messages from Sutskever to Brockman, Sutskever wrote, \u201cElon might spend half a day a week with us. I imagined how it will be and I worry that our work environment can become very stressful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _17nnmdya _1xwtict1\">Sutskever was correct to worry; Musk is famously difficult. I imagine we will hear more about that tomorrow. But as it stands so far, the jury will have to decide who of two not-especially-trustworthy men it trusts more. 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