{"id":72798,"date":"2026-08-15T22:59:14","date_gmt":"2026-08-15T22:59:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/72798\/"},"modified":"2026-08-15T22:59:14","modified_gmt":"2026-08-15T22:59:14","slug":"meet-the-woman-tasked-with-changing-the-culture-of-australias-defence-force","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/72798\/","title":{"rendered":"Meet the woman tasked with changing the culture of Australia&#8217;s defence force"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The woman tasked with helping to steer systemic change in Australia&#8217;s defence force says she is not looking to simply tick a box.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">For the first time since her appointment as the inaugural commissioner of the Defence and Veterans&#8217; Service Commission (DVSC) in May, Penny McKay has opened up on her work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;Change might not happen overnight. But we will be here for the long haul,&#8221; she told the ABC.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The need for her role was born out of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide, which concluded self-harm among veterans and serving members constituted a national crisis, driven by systemic and cultural failures.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">And now, tucked away in a brick building, a stone&#8217;s throw from Parliament House, she leads the organisation tasked with ensuring the response to the outcomes of that mammoth probe are more than just promises.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">A task Ms McKay said she and her team are &#8220;not naive to&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Penny McKay, Defence and Veterans\u2019 Service Commissioner\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/50a822509d6d1d7b34eb9cef7450dbb3.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Penny McKay, Defence and Veterans&#8217; Service Commissioner (ABC News: Matt Roberts)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;We want to be transparent about what we&#8217;re doing: our job is shine a light on what&#8217;s happening in defence and in DVA and other agencies that are connected to wellbeing,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I want to hold people to account where required.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">In her first meeting with her hand-selected advisory group, she indicated the team&#8217;s sights are trained on the government.<\/p>\n<p>Is change possible?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide asked for an independent, statutory authority with enhanced powers, to improve suicide prevention and wellbeing outcomes for serving and ex-serving members.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Australian Defence Force (ADF) soldiers stand on parade in Townsville.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/212e660226eb6805e4455ff318638e18.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">The Commissioner&#8217;s role was created as a recommendation of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide. (Supplied: ADF)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">It essentially wanted and created a watchdog \u2014 someone to continue to promote change and accountability long after it tabled its final report.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Within the umbrella of wellbeing and suicide prevention falls an entire cache of issues: military sexual violence, bullying, culture, backlogs with compensation and service claims, mental health and more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Before the Royal Commission even began, there were more than 50 inquiries and 750 recommendations made to Defence that had &#8220;little to no impact that they can see on the ground&#8221;, according to Commissioner McKay.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">She said she understands there&#8217;s skepticism in the community about whether cultural change is possible.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;I&#8217;m keenly aware that the issues that we&#8217;re dealing with are not new largely. In fact they&#8217;re long-standing issues,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>Defence support services:<a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.defence.gov.au\/health\/healthportal\/NeedHelpNow.asp\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/externallink\/12055100\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Defence all-hours Support Line<\/a> is a confidential telephone and online service for ADF members and their families 1800 628 036<a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.openarms.gov.au\/\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/externallink\/12055138\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open Arms<\/a> provides 24-hour free and confidential counselling and support for current and former ADF members and their families 1800 011 046<a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/soldieron.org.au\/about-soldier-on\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/externallink\/12060314\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Soldier On<\/a> is a national support services provider for Defence personnel, contemporary veterans, and their families. Contact during office hours 1300 620 380<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;Ideally I would like to promise that we can change the world, but I dare say that&#8217;s a little bit naive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;What I want to say is that we will try our damnedest to do it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;The commission is looking for meaningful implementation of reform.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The organisation is set to lead an independent <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2025-10-24\/adf-class-action-alleged-sexual-violence-harassment\/105926114\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/105926114\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">military sexual violence inquiry<\/a> later this year; one of the first issues it is set to tackle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Commissioner McKay wants the inquiry to be &#8220;future focused&#8221;, which will come through hearing from those with firsthand knowledge.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;I think we&#8217;re going to hear some really traumatic disturbing experiences from people with lived experience of military sexual violence,&#8221; Commissioner McKay said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Anthony Albanese looks down with his eyes closed from the side.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/b709c791cff8815751d737fda569e220.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Prime Minister Anthony Albanese&#8217;s government formally responded to the Royal Commission in 2024. (ABC News: Keane Bourke)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;What I would say to anybody who has experienced military sexual violence is that it&#8217;s unacceptable and we want to make recommendations that will make real change, so we want to hear from you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">A date for the first hearings for the inquiry is yet to be said, and the government has not announced a deputy commissioner to lead it.<\/p>\n<p>Recommendation implementation survey<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The first meetings of the Commissioner&#8217;s inaugural advisory group were held this month.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">A total of <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dvsc.gov.au\/research-and-advice\/advisory-group\/membership\" data-component=\"Link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">16 people from various military and non-military backgrounds<\/a> were selected to provide advice to the Commission; including a reverend, a psychiatrist, a lawyer and several serving members.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The ABC was invited to film part of the first round table, where the question was asked just how many of the Royal Commission&#8217;s 122 recommendations had been implemented.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"The back of a woman's head who is seated at a round table \" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/9b8a0c0e9c4135c2c87e82e08d0869c3.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Commissioner McKay met with the advisory group for the first time this month. (ABC News)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Veterans Affairs Minister, Matt Keogh, has previously said 32 recommendations had been implemented, with two-thirds expected to be implemented by the end of this year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;The Defence and Veterans&#8217; Service Commission (DVSC) Inquiry into the progress made by Australian Government Agencies to implement the recommendations of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide remains ongoing,&#8221; a spokesperson for his office said in a statement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Commissioner McKay is leading an inquiry into the implementations of the recommendations, which is to be reported to the government in early February next year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">She said she has not surveyed the implementation of all the recommendations yet, but &#8220;a number of the recommendations that have been reported as fully implemented, possibly won&#8217;t be reported as fully implemented by the Commission&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A view from behind of military graduates in full dress uniform, marching.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/17fa3c655f6c7f5b6d5bb9d166361f20.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">The Defence and Veterans&#8217; Service Commission aims to drive systemic reform and cultural change in Defence. (Department of Defence: Andrew Sleeman)<\/p>\n<p>Commissioner unfazed by lack of military experience<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Commissioner McKay comes to the role with a wealth of experience in the legal field as a state, territory and commonwealth prosecutor, but she has never served or worked in defence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">It&#8217;s a point she said she is frequently asked about, but believes it&#8217;s not a disadvantage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;My career from woe to go has had common threads of accountability, transparency and integrity,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;I&#8217;m really interested and I&#8217;m really drawn to roles that require people to be held accountable for their actions and if they promise to do something, they do it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">She said she was married to a serviceman for 20 years served, her four children are defence kids and comes from a family with a proud military history.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2025-09-02\/adf-bullying-royal-commission-anniversary\/105633704\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ADF member feels like he has been &#8216;treated like a problem&#8217; after DV attack<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">A year on from the landmark Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide, ADF members say cultural issues have not been addressed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;I think it&#8217;s also important that the person in this role comes with fresh eyes, comes with independent eyes, doesn&#8217;t have conflicts of interest that might mar what we say,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">It is enshrined in law that the Commissioner who leads the DVSC cannot have served within the past five years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">When asked how she&#8217;s going to grade her performance during and at the end of her five-year tenure, Commissioner McKay said it&#8217;ll be on three things: trust, structural and systemic change and change on the ground.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;If I can gain a level of trust in the veteran and defence community \u2026 if I can influence the departments and the governments to make those,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;I also then think it&#8217;s then about whether people on the ground \u2014 the veterans, the defence members, and their families \u2014 are really seeing positive change.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A woman in a dark suit against a white background\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/996cb693a1aa05b6b72f6ede0c5456f6.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Commissioner McKay is unfazed by not having previously worked in defence. (ABC News: Matt Roberts)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Commissioner McKay said she&#8217;s aware there&#8217;s a lot of scepticism about whether the Commission will be able to deliver change, and a lot of hope placed in her to do so.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;I hope that that hope is not displaced. I will do everything that I can to make sure that it&#8217;s not,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;We will be here for the long haul, the commission is not here a one and done.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;We&#8217;re going to be looking at issues over years and maintaining that focus on what has and what hasn&#8217;t been done.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The woman tasked with helping to steer systemic change in Australia&#8217;s defence force says she is not looking&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":72799,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[5049,2432,22,13485,21,102880,102881,102884,14798,102883,102882,1532],"class_list":["post-72798","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-australia","tag-air-force","tag-army","tag-au","tag-australian-defence-force","tag-austrlia","tag-defence-and-veterans-services-commission","tag-dvsc","tag-military-veterans","tag-navy","tag-penny-mckay","tag-royal-commission-into-defence-and-veteran-suicide","tag-veterans"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72798","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=72798"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72798\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/72799"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=72798"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=72798"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/australia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=72798"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}