{"id":11105,"date":"2026-04-10T13:47:06","date_gmt":"2026-04-10T13:47:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/11105\/"},"modified":"2026-04-10T13:47:06","modified_gmt":"2026-04-10T13:47:06","slug":"labour-minister-clashes-with-stephen-dixon-over-talking-down-britains-defence-our-forces-are-not-on-their-knees","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/11105\/","title":{"rendered":"Labour Minister clashes with Stephen Dixon over \u2018talking down\u2019 Britain\u2019s defence: \u2018Our forces are not on their knees!\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Labour defence minister Luke Pollard has rowed with GB News host Stephen Dixon for \u201ctalking down\u201d the state of Britain&#8217;s armed services.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking to GB News and standing before a Royal Navy frigate, the Minister of State for Defence Readiness and Industry hit back at claims that the military was \u201con its knees\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Quizzing Mr Pollard on the nation\u2019s defence posture, GB News host Stephen Dixon despaired: \u201cWe&#8217;ve got high unemployment, flat growth, above target inflation, massively high electricity bills compared to Europe. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve got a huge welfare bill. Businesses are crumbling under high taxes. Armed forces on their knees.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd yet the Prime Minister says resilience has been at the heart of my government&#8217;s approach?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Shooting back, the minister responded: \u201cI don&#8217;t agree with what you&#8217;ve just said there. Our armed forces are not on their knees. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have capable, lethal armed forces that are globally deployed, keeping us safe at the very moment. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just don&#8217;t subscribe to this talking down of our armed forces that we&#8217;re seeing from some features, some figures in the media and some politicians in Parliament.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"005ff\" data-rm-shortcode-id=\"565126769092b81058ac9a0157c1dd74\" data-rm-shortcode-name=\"rebelmouse-image\" class=\"rm-shortcode rm-lazyloadable-image \" lazy-loadable=\"true\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%201245%20700'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-runner-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/luke-pollard.png\" width=\"1245\" height=\"700\" alt=\"Luke Pollard\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Luke Pollard clashed with Stephen Dixon over &#8216;talking down the armed forces&#8217; <\/p>\n<p> | <\/p>\n<p>GB NEWS<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;m really proud of the work that the men and women of our armed forces are doing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNobody is talking down the men and women serving in our armed forces,\u201d Stephen returned fire. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI should know I&#8217;m married to one, now a veteran. But when he was in a tank regiment, they didn&#8217;t have any tanks. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cA tank regiment with no tanks, minister,\u201d the GB News star stressed. <\/p>\n<p>Mr Pollard accepted that it was \u201ccertainly true that we&#8217;ve inherited a situation where over the last decade and a half, our armed forces were hollowed out and underfunded\u201d. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"8e9fa\" data-rm-shortcode-id=\"1f72f26e0996d2cca9fb07c0e1799809\" data-rm-shortcode-name=\"rebelmouse-image\" class=\"rm-shortcode rm-lazyloadable-image \" lazy-loadable=\"true\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%201245%20700'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-runner-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/stephen-dixon-ellie-costello.png\" width=\"1245\" height=\"700\" alt=\"Stephen Dixon, Ellie Costello\"\/><\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Nobody is talking down the men and women serving in our armed forces,&#8217; Stephen shot back<\/p>\n<p> | <\/p>\n<p>GB NEWS<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn the first budget, the last government made, they cut the armed forces in our first budget with increased defence spending. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cNow it takes about six to eight years to build a frigate like the one behind me\u2026 We know there&#8217;s more to do to bring this new technology forward.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat&#8217;s precisely why we&#8217;re investing in more shipbuilding, in more industrial capabilities, and adding more uncrewed and autonomous systems alongside our crewed platforms to give our fighting forces the extra capability that they need to deal with the threats that we are facing,\u201d the Labour Minister insisted.<\/p>\n<p>The topic of \u201ctalking down\u201d the armed forces proved to be an emotive one in recent days, with GB News stars Charlie Peters and Pierce <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gbnews.com\/news\/hms-dragon-charlie-peters-cyprus-iran\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">also clashing over the issue. <\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"d1d63\" data-rm-shortcode-id=\"69581f390ebe33c7597ba65fbab00696\" data-rm-shortcode-name=\"rebelmouse-image\" class=\"rm-shortcode rm-lazyloadable-image \" lazy-loadable=\"true\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%201245%20700'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-runner-src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/charlie-peters-andrew-pierce.webp\" width=\"1245\" height=\"700\" alt=\"Charlie Peters, Andrew Pierce\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Charlie Peters and Andrew Pierce had previously clashed over the same topic <\/p>\n<p> | <\/p>\n<p>GB NEWS \/ GETTY<\/p>\n<p>As news of HMS Dragon being forced to dock emerged over the week, a despairing Andrew began to refer to the vessel as \u201cHMS Hopeless\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Charlie was keen to address this characterisation, telling the GB News hosts that he was \u201cslightly concerned\u201d about the moniker.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think we are a little bit at risk of taking down the Royal Navy amid this situation,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThese sailors have grafted quite an extraordinary feat to get that ship out. It&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s not their fault.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Labour defence minister Luke Pollard has rowed with GB News host Stephen Dixon for \u201ctalking down\u201d the state&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":11106,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[13,18,14,2125,5330,20,1633],"class_list":{"0":"post-11105","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-britain","8":"tag-britain","9":"tag-news","10":"tag-politics","11":"tag-presenters","12":"tag-stephen-dixon","13":"tag-uk-politics","14":"tag-video-news"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@UnitedKingdom\/116380725586483015","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11105","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11105"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11105\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/11106"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11105"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11105"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11105"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}