{"id":95754,"date":"2026-08-02T14:08:21","date_gmt":"2026-08-02T14:08:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/95754\/"},"modified":"2026-08-02T14:08:21","modified_gmt":"2026-08-02T14:08:21","slug":"were-not-in-a-cold-war-were-one-step-up-above-that-politics-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/95754\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;We&#8217;re not in a Cold War. We&#8217;re one step up above that.&#8217; | Politics | News"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"withoutCaption\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/7061811.jpg\" class=\"zoomEnabled\" data-img=\"https:\/\/cdn.images.express.co.uk\/img\/dynamic\/139\/1200x712\/secondary\/7061811.jpg?r=1785650715362\" alt=\"Sir Gavin Williamson and his dog Lottie with David Williamson\" title=\"Sir Gavin Williamson and his dog Lottie with David Williamson\" width=\"590\" height=\"394\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Sir Gavin Williamson tells David Williamson about his fears for Britain&#8217;s safety (Image: glenn gratton)<\/p>\n<p>Sir <a data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/news\/uk\/2010816\/Trump-British-Army-recruitment\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Gavin Williamson<\/a> was notorious for keeping a Mexican red-kneed <a data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/news\/politics\/1694167\/BBC-report-Gavin-Williamson-tarantula-bullying-accusation-Tory-MP-resign-vn\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">tarantula<\/a> named Cronus in his office when he was Conservative Chief Whip. The hairy <a data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/life-style\/top10facts\/875988\/Tarantulas-spider-top-ten-facts\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">spider<\/a> passed away this year and his present companion could not be more different. A highly affectionate \u201cworking cocker\u201d spaniel named Lottie now accompanies him to Parliament and she clearly adores her owner.<\/p>\n<p>I have never before conducted an interview while being repeatedly licked but Lottie is ablaze with a friendly delight in life rarely encountered in Westminster. Right now, the former Defence Secretary\u2019s thoughts are focused on something far more frightening than a giant spider. He is worried about the threat posed by <a data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/news\/politics\/2219786\/warning-britain-needs-second-nuclear\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Russia<\/a> to a United Kingdom he believes urgently needs to rearm.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe&#8217;re not in a Cold War,\u201d he warns. \u201cWe&#8217;re one step up above that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Britain is a \u201cmuch greater\u201d target than other European states, he argues, because this country is a \u201cwarrior nation\u201d which has repeatedly proven its <a data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/news\/politics\/2206330\/britain-lead-NATO-nuclear-deterrent\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">readiness<\/a> to confront aggressors.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/latest\/russia\" data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|AutoLink\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Russia<\/a> sees Britain differently to how they see France or Germany,\u201d he says. \u201cThey see Britain as a greater threat because they know Britain will lead from the front \u2013 Britain isn&#8217;t nervous about standing on its own in order to be able to do what is right. Let us not forget, in World War 2, Britain was the only country that went to war to defend the rights of others. Every other country went to war because they had been attacked themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Britain, he warns, has not woken up to the scale of the threat before us. He argues Sir <a href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/latest\/keir-starmer\" data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|AutoLink\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Keir Starmer<\/a>\u2019s premiership was defined by \u201ca naivety about politics and a naivety about the intentions of others\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>He explains: \u201cWhat scares me is \u2013 and some of us have been making an argument for quite a long time \u2013 the threat level is rising so quickly, and still in Britain, prime ministers are not willing to face up to the really difficult and tough choices that need to be made.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"withoutCaption\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/7061823.jpg\" class=\"zoomEnabled\" data-img=\"https:\/\/cdn.images.express.co.uk\/img\/dynamic\/139\/1200x712\/secondary\/7061823.jpg?r=1785650715371\" alt=\"Sir Gavin Williamson on way to cabinet meeting\" title=\"Sir Gavin Williamson on way to cabinet meeting\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Sir Gavin Williamson when Education Secretary (Image: Getty Images)<\/p>\n<p>Sir Gavin argues that the level of defence investment talked about today won\u2019t \u201ceven scratch the surface\u201d and the nation needs to go much further in developing resilience against attack while expanding the size of the armed forces. In April there were just 74,370 members of the regular army.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe&#8217;ve got to get back up to a point where we have 100,000 men in our army again,\u201d he says, as well as pressing for an \u201cenormous expansion\u201d of the reserves.<\/p>\n<p>Sir Gavin sees both challenges and opportunities when it comes national rearmament. In World War 2, he points out, Britain was home to factories which switched to manufacturing planes, tanks and artillery as part of the war effort; now, he laments, we have \u201clost so much of that infrastructure\u201d. Reindustrialisation, he argues, is both \u201cvital for our resilience\u201d and an opportunity to grow the economy.<\/p>\n<p>He enthuses: \u201cWe still have the skills to produce the very best things in the world\u2026 We&#8217;ve got the ability to do it, but actually, with the right imagination, with the right investment, the Government could turn us into a defence superpower.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>France, he states, has \u201calways been very good\u201d at \u201cbacking French industry first\u201d. A key challenge is winning Treasury support for investment.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Express regularly covered my spats with the Treasury,\u201d he says. \u201cThe danger with the Treasury is it understands the price of everything and the value of nothing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Warning that Russian president <a href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/latest\/vladimir-putin\" data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|AutoLink\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Vladimir Putin<\/a> is watching the UK, he states: \u201cWhen he sees that Britain isn&#8217;t rearming at the rate that they need to do, he will take that as a sign of weakness. And that is why the new prime minister, if he [keeps] this lily-livered defence investment plan and lets that be the last word, [will] be letting down Britain.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He remembers the anger he felt in 2018 at the Salisbury poisonings, when Russia attempted to assassinate a former military officer who defected.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe brazenness, the recklessness, was unbelievable,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd this was a pattern of behaviour. This wasn&#8217;t a one-off.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The then-Defence Secretary considered Britain\u2019s response \u201ctimid\u201d, as if the country was still operating in a \u201cgentleman\u2019s era\u201d of UK-Russia relations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"withoutCaption\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/7061827.jpg\" class=\"zoomEnabled\" data-img=\"https:\/\/cdn.images.express.co.uk\/img\/dynamic\/139\/1200x712\/secondary\/7061827.jpg?r=1785650715439\" alt=\"Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Observes The NATO Joint Warrior Exercise\" title=\"Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Observes The NATO Joint Warrior Exercise\" width=\"590\" height=\"381\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Sir Gavin Williamson meeting members of the Parachute Regiment (Image: Getty Images)<\/p>\n<p>Today he is concerned that Russia has \u201ca far higher risk appetite&#8221; than the Soviet Union \u201ceven in the Cold War\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>He is appalled at Labour\u2019s attempts to hand the Chagos Islands to Mauritius as part of a multi-billion pound deal which would see Britain pay to lease back the US-UK Diego Garcia military base.<\/p>\n<p>Such a deal \u2013 coming at a time of concern about the expansion of Chinese influence in the region \u2013 seems wrongheaded to the MP.<\/p>\n<p>He says: \u201cWe have the greatest aircraft carrier in the world permanently stationed in the Indian Ocean. It&#8217;s called Diego Garcia \u2013 it is an unsinkable aircraft carrier.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>China, he warns, will \u201clook at every opportunity\u201d to \u201cdiminish Britain&#8217;s influence\u201d. And he takes a grim view of recent dealings with Beijing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLet&#8217;s face it,\u201d he says. \u201cEvery time we&#8217;ve done a deal with China, Britain has ended up poorer and China has ended up richer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the age of just 50, Sir Gavin is a Tory grandee, having held a string of offices including Education Secretary. Scarborough-born and comprehensive school-educated, he worked as a manager for a fireplace manufacturer and a pottery and china maker before winning election for South Staffordshire in 2010.<\/p>\n<p>He was marked out as an MP on the up when David Cameron picked him as his parliamentary private secretary \u2013 the so-called \u201ceyes and ears\u201d of the PM \u2013 in 2013.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDavid was an absolutely brilliant individual to work with,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Looking back, he does not see any way that the then-PM could have stayed in post after the 2016 referendum because \u201che&#8217;d been so strident in the arguments that he had made\u201d against quitting the EU.<\/p>\n<p class=\"withoutCaption\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/7061837.jpg\" class=\"zoomEnabled\" data-img=\"https:\/\/cdn.images.express.co.uk\/img\/dynamic\/139\/1200x712\/secondary\/7061837.jpg?r=1785650715498\" alt=\"Sir Gavin Williamson with his working cocker spaniel, Lottie\" title=\"Sir Gavin Williamson with his working cocker spaniel, Lottie\" width=\"590\" height=\"394\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p>No tarantula &#8211; Sir Gavin Williamson with his working cocker spaniel, Lottie (Image: Glenn Gratton)<\/p>\n<p>If he was a young man today, would he join the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/latest\/conservative-party\" data-link-tracking=\"InArticle|AutoLink\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Conservatives<\/a> or Reform UK? He doesn\u2019t hesitate: \u201cOh, Conservatives!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the core of his party, he insists, is the mission to be the \u201cchampion\u201d of men and women who start a business and then take on staff.<\/p>\n<p>He admits this may have been \u201cslightly dulled\u201d but insists that under Kemi Badenoch it is \u201ccoming back\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>The way to bring voters home from parties as diverse as Reform, Labour and the Liberal Democrats, he believes, is to act as the \u201cworld&#8217;s best opposition\u201d, set out a plan and \u201ccontinuously oppose this awful government\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Sir Gavin is unimpressed by the latest resident of Number 10, commenting that \u201cbeing prime minister isn&#8217;t just about wearing a t-shirt and a bomber jacket\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe doesn&#8217;t want to take the tough decisions,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd I think Kemi will be going in there hard and attacking him for it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If he longs to be a shadow cabinet member, he hides it well, saying: \u201cI\u2019m delighted just to play my part as a happy backbench Member of Parliament\u2026 I don&#8217;t sit around hankering for phone calls. I\u2019m there to charge at the enemy, battle away, do my bit for my constituents, but also, hopefully make some of the arguments that need to be made for what&#8217;s right.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He may not be on the front row of politics but he still looms large in the political imagination. The Spectator recently quoted a Reform UK source saying Rupert Lowe\u2019s Restore Britain is a \u201cTory put-up job, expertly organised by Gavin Williamson\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>This amuses Sir Gavin. \u201cThey seem to have a lot of conspiracy theories about me,\u201d he says. \u201cI mean, I just wish I was as interesting as people sometimes credit me with being.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Sir Gavin Williamson tells David Williamson about his fears for Britain&#8217;s safety (Image: glenn gratton) Sir Gavin Williamson&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":95755,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[4],"tags":[2108,255,3724,1815,40728,408,484,40730,5,40729,40731,6],"class_list":["post-95754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-uk","tag-british-army","tag-china","tag-conservative-party","tag-defence","tag-gavin-williamson","tag-reform-uk","tag-russia","tag-russia-threat","tag-uk","tag-uk-defence-policy","tag-uk-rearmament","tag-united-kingdom"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@UnitedKingdom\/117026311745083055","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/95754","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=95754"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/95754\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/95755"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=95754"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=95754"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/britain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=95754"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}