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When Jess McLeod was sitting down to write She’s Nonbinary, a short film that revolves around a conversation between Max (McLeod) and their boyfriend, Jake (Alexander Steele Zonjic), they did so in something of a rage.
“It’s a personal story based on a breakup, and I wrote the first draft of the script a month after it happened, so I had little to no perspective about the whole thing,” McLeod says over a video call with the Straight.
The film is about Max’s decision to get top surgery and the way in which Jake reacts to said decision, which might charitably be described as “mixed”. McLeod gained some perspective sitting in the editing bay.
“I felt like I had to make it before I got top surgery, because that’s what the movie’s about, so I had three months and made it really fast,” they say. “I was editing it as I was recovering from surgery, and it made me face a lot of character defects that I wasn’t aware of. I don’t think that initially I was trying to make it a hit piece about my ex-boyfriend, but I wasn’t really aware of the way that I contributed to that dynamic until I was forced to sit and watch myself do it eight million times.”
While She’s Nonbinary was obviously based on real events, McLeod admits that some things were, of course, dramatized for the screen.
“I was so mad, and I was, you know, deciding for him maybe what my transition meant about how he should move in the world, and I’ve since realized that that’s also a very binary way of behaving,” they say. “I think part of the short is definitely me making fun of myself a little bit, which I didn’t really realize that part of it when I was writing and performing it. I was like, ‘I’m a hero to trans people!’ And then I watched it and went, ‘Oh, no, no, no.’ ”
The film was shot at Zonjic’s apartment by McLeod, who was raised in Victoria and is currently based in Vancouver. But they’re also quickly becoming a recognizable face in Hollywood shows and movies, like the Bob Odenkirk vehicle Normal and the new Jane Schoenbrun–directed horror romp Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
On the small screen, they were recently upgraded to a series regular for the second season of Silicon Valley dramedy The Audacity, starring Billy Magnussen and Zach Galifianakis. McLeod plays Harper, the pink-haired chief technology officer of data-mining startup Hypergnosis, and spends most of their on-screen time with the aforementioned stars. They’ve soaked up a few lessons from the two men.
“With Billy, I think he is so good at—this is going to sound like I’m being mean, and I’m really not, I’ve said this to his face—making huge mistakes and then learning from them and finding something that he never would have gotten to had he not come in and made the craziest, biggest choice of all time,” they say. “And Zach is so anti-Hollywood in a way that I really love and respect. He’s so good at not taking anything too seriously. That’s a quality that I want to hold on to.”
Even as they are starting to break through in bigger roles, McLeod is still most focused on their own work. She’s Nonbinary is making its way through the fall festival circuit and will be playing the Vancouver Queer Festival after having its global debut a couple of months ago at the Tribeca Film Festival. The film was executive produced by both Odenkirk and Schoenbrun.
“We had gotten some good advice to bring on some bigger names if we could, and when I worked with Bob, he was so lovely and generous to me,” McLeod says. “He watched the movie, and I think he was surprised that he liked it a lot. So I asked if he’d help, and he did, and it was similar with Jane.”
McLeod feels that the film showed well at Tribeca.
“It was very positive—we were in a really good block with some other shorts about different kinds of relationships.”
She’s Nonbinary’s content can make the viewer a bit squeamish, which is mostly by design.
“It has a very strong message for being 10 minutes long, and I can see why it might make people uncomfortable. It kind of makes me uncomfortable,” they say with a laugh.
There are plans to extend that 10 minutes. McLeod is currently working on making She’s Nonbinary into a feature film that’s currently without a title. They do have a script, though.
“I feel like the feature will capture how I want to be moving in the world and kind of my journey toward being less binary about stuff,” McLeod says, noting that they brought the script to the Tribeca Creators Market recently and were set to take it to Gotham Week, the U.S.’s largest curated marketplace for independent film and television creators, at the end of September. Schoenbrun has agreed to be an EP again.
“It may,” they add, “be larger than people would expect the journey to be.”
She’s Nonbinary shows at the Vancouver Queer Film Festival, which runs from September 10-20 at venues across the city.