{"id":16189,"date":"2026-04-23T10:38:11","date_gmt":"2026-04-23T10:38:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/16189\/"},"modified":"2026-04-23T10:38:11","modified_gmt":"2026-04-23T10:38:11","slug":"the-tories-say-the-carney-majority-is-illegitimate-their-reasoning-speaks-to-a-larger-issue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/16189\/","title":{"rendered":"The Tories say the Carney majority is illegitimate. Their reasoning speaks to a larger issue"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/32L24R6LI5GIHB5FVFQAIMYJ24.JPG?auth=37892ed53e759640dfa74d16326155e8fcd7f70dd76685d4c652403c5130856a&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Prime Minister Mark Carney waves following his speech at the Liberal national convention in Montreal on April 11.Christinne Muschi\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Opinion on Canada\u2019s New! Liberal! Majority! Government! has tended to divide into two camps. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">On one hand are those, mostly to be found on the Conservative end of things, who denounce the process by which the Liberals attained their majority \u2013 five opposition MPs, crossing the floor one after the other, like baby ducks \u2013 as illegitimate, even undemocratic. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Canadians, in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/article\/the-liberals-could-form-a-majority-government-monday-what-does-that-mean\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">this telling<\/a>, \u201cvoted for a minority Parliament\u201d in the last election, only to be betrayed after the fact by \u201cdirty backroom deals\u201d between cynical Liberals and faithless opposition MPs. \u201cIf you want a majority government in Canada,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AaronGunn.ca\/posts\/mark-carney-is-currently-attempting-what-is-maybe-the-least-democratic-thing-in-\/1514578503365706\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">groused<\/a> Conservative MP Aaron Gunn, \u201cyou should earn it at the ballot box.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">On the other hand are those, mostly on the Liberal end of things, who wonder what all the fuss is about. Floor-crossing, they remind us, is not new. It may be unprecedented for it to spell the difference between minority and majority government, but so what? We elect Parliaments in this country, not governments. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/politics\/opinion\/article-less-forward-guidance-mr-carney-and-more-accountability\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Opinion: Less forward guidance, Mr. Carney, and more accountability<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">We vote for MPs, what is more, not parties. We elect them, not merely to serve as human yard signs for their respective party leaders, but to <a href=\"https:\/\/gregmacneil.substack.com\/p\/cant-win-dont-rewrite-the-rules\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">use their judgment<\/a>. If an MP wishes to break with his or her party and join another, that is his or her right. And if a majority of MPs decide to support the Liberal government \u2013 if, that is, the government enjoys the \u201cconfidence\u201d of the House \u2013 that is all that matters, legally, morally and otherwisely.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Neither side has it wholly right. It\u2019s true that MPs have a right to change their minds, if a party or its leader has become repugnant to them. No one voted for a \u201cminority\u201d government, so it\u2019s silly to raise this as an objection.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">On the other hand, it\u2019s a bit precious to pretend that their party affiliation had nothing to do with their election. I\u2019m all for greater autonomy for MPs. But to say that MPs should be more independent does not mean they are. The truth is that most MPs mostly owe their election to their party label. Up to a point, indeed, party labels are a good thing, providing voters with useful information about what the candidates stand for. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">So voters in the floor-crossers\u2019 ridings have a right to feel they have been had. The rest of us are entitled to wonder what the terms were, and whether they included free parking. No, MPs with principled objections should not be prisoners of their parties. But if jobs were offered, or pork was promised, that puts a very different colour on it \u2013 especially given the scale of the operation. Effective opposition, which is to say accountable government, is impossible if the government can just buy MPs\u2019 allegiance wholesale. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">There are, or should be, other ways for MPs to register their disaffection than to outright leave the party. If the problem is party policy, the remedy is to give them more freedom to depart from the party line here and there, provided they support its broad philosophy. If the problem is the leader, let MPs have more power to remove \u2013 and replace \u2013 the leader.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It makes no sense, then, to say that one either approves or disapproves of floor-crossing, in principle: it depends on the circumstances. Between banning it altogether and just waving it through there is likewise an appropriate compromise. MPs who wish to change parties should be free to do so, provided they first obtain the approval of their constituents, by resigning and running in a by-election.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">All of which is well-trodden ground. One is struck, nevertheless, by the absolutist tone of the Conservative opposition: the repeated references to Mr. Carney\u2019s majority as \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/nationalpost.com\/opinion\/john-ivison-carneys-floor-crosser-power-play-is-playing-with-explosives\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">illegitimate<\/a>.\u201d Even if it is hugely hypocritical \u2013 Conservatives have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/opinion\/article-floor-crossings-canada-politics\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/opinion\/article-floor-crossings-canada-politics\/\">welcomed floor-crossers to their own ranks with hula dances in the past<\/a> \u2013 it is rooted in a broader constitutional understanding that has become central to Conservative ideology of late.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Recall two recent controversies. Both turned on who should get to form a government, and under what circumstances. In the first, the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/nationalpost.com\/opinion\/john-ivison-carneys-floor-crosser-power-play-is-playing-with-explosives\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">coalition crisis<\/a>\u201d of 2008, the Conservative government of Stephen Harper nearly fell to a coalition of the Liberals and the NDP, backed by the Bloc Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois. Should the government be defeated in the vote then looming over its fall budget, the coalition had formally advised the governor-general, they stood ready to form a government. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Had the confidence vote gone ahead, and had Mr. Harper recommended dissolving the House in its wake, the governor-general would arguably have been within her rights to have refused: it had been barely two months since the election, after all, and there was an alternative government at hand.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Instead, he recommended she prorogue the House, staving off the confidence vote and leaving the coalition nowhere to go. Reluctantly she agreed, but not before leading Conservatives had mounted a quite ferocious campaign to discredit the coalition option. The coalition was a rickety contraption, to be sure \u2013 its dependence on the Bloc was particularly troublesome \u2013 but the Conservative argument was that any such transfer of power, without the explicit blessing of the electorate, was illegitimate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/opinion\/article-pierre-poilievre-conservatives-problem-liberal-majority\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Opinion: The Conservatives have a bigger problem than a Liberal majority: Their leader<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Which is constitutional nonsense. No less a figure than Sir John A. Macdonald was obliged to resign after the Pacific Scandal, in 1873. Power transferred seamlessly to Alexander Mackenzie, the Liberal leader, without an election. Mackenzie King was likewise forced to hand over power, in similar circumstances: mired in scandal, and heading for a confidence vote he was sure to lose. King screamed \u2013 he had demanded the governor-general, Viscount Byng, dissolve the House instead \u2013 but Arthur Meighen was duly appointed prime minister.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">More recently, the Ontario Conservatives \u201cwon\u201d the 1985 provincial election, in the sense of having won the most seats, but were soon defeated in the legislature. Power transferred to the Liberals, supported by the NDP, without an election. The same fate befell the British Columbia Liberals, under Christy Clark, after the 2017 election: replaced, after a brief attempt to govern, by the NDP, with the support of the Greens.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The second recent controversy was rather more theoretical. It erupted a couple of years ago, in response to speculation that the Liberals, then only a couple of points behind in the polls, might finish with fewer seats than the Conservatives \u2013 but still hold onto power, with the support of the NDP. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The prime minister remains the prime minister during an election campaign and after, whatever the result, until he is no longer so. As such, he has the right to meet the House, and to test whether he has its confidence. Only after it has been demonstrated that he does not is he obliged to resign \u2013 though he may choose to do so before then. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">So a prime minister could \u201close\u201d an election, in the sense of finishing with the second-most seats, and still form a government, provided he had enough support from other parties. The Liberals had been able to govern with the support of the NDP before the election. There seemed no reason they could not continue to do so after. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalobserver.com\/2023\/07\/11\/opinion\/canada-conservatives-courting-constitutional-chaos\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Foul!<\/a> cried a number of Conservatives. The only party that gets to form a government after an election, they insisted, is the party that got the most seats. That, they claimed, was established convention. Nonsense, again, only this time on stilts. The actual convention, as any constitutional scholar could tell you, is that the right to govern goes to the party that can command the confidence of the House.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/opinion\/article-floor-crossing-on-this-scale-undermines-our-system-of-government\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Opinion: The odd floor-crossing is one thing, but on this scale it undermines our system of government<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It may have been the practice, more often than not, that the party that got the most seats formed the government, but not because of any convention to that effect. In most cases, \u201cmost seats\u201d means a majority: the convention there is simply the confidence convention restated, since obviously a majority implies confidence. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">In other cases, an incumbent prime minister might have come to the conclusion that there was no prospect of commanding the confidence of the House, whether because he had no other party willing to lend their support, or because his party was too far short of a majority to make the numbers work. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">But on occasion prime ministers have, as have premiers: King in 1925 (the prelude to King-Byng); New Brunswick premier Brian Gallant in 2018. Why? Because they were close enough to make it worth a chance. (That neither government lasted long does not mean they were wrong to try.) Again, the issue is whether you can get to a majority, not whether you started with a plurality.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The question that is common to all of these is the same: who has the right to form a government? And the answer constitutional scholars would give is in every case the same: whoever has the confidence of a majority of the House. It doesn\u2019t matter whether that majority is formed out of one party or several; whether it is assembled by one party first and another later; or whether the governing party happens to be the largest party. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Neither does it matter whether it is kept together by sheer nerve, as under Stephen Harper, or by a formal coalition, as proposed by St\u00e9phane Dion, or by a supply-and-confidence agreement, as under Justin Trudeau \u2013 or by the addition of a few floor-crossers. Confidence of the House is all. That\u2019s the convention.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">And yet the Conservatives continue to insist on their own \u201cconventions\u201d: that power always goes to the party with the most seats; that power can only be transferred with the intermediation of an election; even that minority governments cannot grow to become majorities. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It isn\u2019t just that there is no legal or factual basis to these claims. It is that it assigns no agency to MPs, or to Parliament itself. It essentially consigns Parliament to the role of an electoral college, with no power but to mirror the votes as they are counted. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/opinion\/editorials\/article-the-end-of-the-if-only-prime-minister\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Opinion: The end of the \u2018if only\u2019 Prime Minister<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">If, on the other hand, you think MPs are elected to wield power as legislators, then you are more likely to accept that they have the authority to remove one party from government and raise up another, or install a party in government though it had fewer seats than another, and so on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Floor-crossers admittedly make things more complicated. Just as we want MPs to have some independence of party, without undoing parties altogether, so we should want MPs to exercise individual judgment in some matters, beyond what was spelled out in the platform \u2013 without completely thumbing their noses at the people who elected them. Voters delegate authority to their MPs. They don\u2019t write them a blank cheque. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">But it\u2019s the broader philosophy behind the Tory attacks, in this as in other matters, that is concerning: the idea that everything is settled by a vote of the people, and nothing can be settled without it; that MPs have no more independence from the voting public than they have from their party leaders; that the settled consensus of constitutional scholars can be ignored if a large enough number of people with a small enough understanding of how our system works can be riled up enough. This is populism in its most primitive form.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Worse, it is an attack on the very concept of constitutional conventions, on which our system <a href=\"https:\/\/digitalcommons.schulichlaw.dal.ca\/cgi\/viewcontent.cgi?article=2287&amp;context=dlj\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">crucially depends<\/a>. Conventions are based on what people have done in the past, and are therefore expected to do in the future: accepted practice, informed by constitutional reason. You can\u2019t just make up your own. But that gets us into such thorny questions as who decides what\u2019s a convention? And how is it enforced?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">After all, it\u2019s only a convention that we follow conventions. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Open this photo in gallery: Prime Minister Mark Carney waves following his speech at the Liberal national convention&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":14511,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[98],"tags":[3679,3118,3680,111,3119],"class_list":{"0":"post-16189","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-mark-carney","8":"tag-andrew-coyne","9":"tag-column","10":"tag-coyne","11":"tag-mark-carney","12":"tag-opinion"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16189","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16189"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16189\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14511"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16189"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16189"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/canada\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16189"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}