{"id":174980,"date":"2026-08-10T16:09:15","date_gmt":"2026-08-10T16:09:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/174980\/"},"modified":"2026-08-10T16:09:15","modified_gmt":"2026-08-10T16:09:15","slug":"neni-mozne-aby-anonymni-ucty-sirily-lzi-rika-ondracek-k-vrtulniku-cestmir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/174980\/","title":{"rendered":"Nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9, aby anonymn\u00ed \u00fa\u010dty \u0161\u00ed\u0159ily l\u017ei, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 Ondr\u00e1\u010dek k\u00a0vrtuln\u00edku \u010cestm\u00edr"},"content":{"rendered":"

Profil Thomas Paukner na soci\u00e1ln\u00edch s\u00edt\u00edch zve\u0159ejnil p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek, ve kter\u00e9m tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee nadace D\u00e1rek pro Putina Ukrajin\u011b nedodala sl\u00edben\u00fd vrtuln\u00edk UH-60A Black Hawk pojmenovan\u00fd \u010cestm\u00edr. Iniciativa, kter\u00e1 Ruskem napaden\u00e9 zemi dod\u00e1v\u00e1 zbran\u011b, nicm\u00e9n\u011b v\u00a0p\u016flce sb\u00edrky ozn\u00e1mila, \u017ee zakoup\u00ed ze z\u00e1mo\u0159\u00ed podobn\u00fd stroj, kter\u00fd vyjde levn\u011bji. Na n\u011bj vybrala p\u0159es 72\u00a0milion\u016f korun.<\/p>\n

Pot\u00e9, co se na soci\u00e1ln\u00edch s\u00edt\u00edch ohradil spoluzakladatel a\u00a0hlavn\u00ed organiz\u00e1tor projektu Martin Ondr\u00e1\u010dek, anonymn\u00ed \u00fa\u010det p\u016fvodn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek smazal. Dod\u00e1n\u00ed stroje Ukrajinc\u016fm v\u0161ak st\u00e1le zpochyb\u0148uje s\u00a0t\u00edm, \u017ee D\u00e1rek pro Putina nezve\u0159ejnil \u00fadaje, podle kter\u00fdch by bylo vrtuln\u00edk mo\u017en\u00e9 dohledat.<\/p>\n

Iniciativa se na osobu stoj\u00edc\u00ed za profilem Thomas Paukner chyst\u00e1 podat trestn\u00ed ozn\u00e1men\u00ed pro pomluvu. V\u00a0p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, \u017ee se pachatele poda\u0159\u00ed identifikovat, zv\u00e1\u017e\u00ed i\u00a0\u017ealobu. Pro\u010d nebyly zve\u0159ejn\u011bny identifika\u010dn\u00ed \u00fadaje stroje a\u00a0jak jeho zakoupen\u00ed m\u016f\u017ee dok\u00e1zat, vysv\u011btluje Martin Ondr\u00e1\u010dek v\u00a0rozhovoru.<\/p>\n

Profil Thomas Paukner zve\u0159ejnil p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek, kde tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee jste nedoru\u010dili Ukrajin\u011b slibovan\u00fd vrtuln\u00edk \u010cestm\u00edr, kter\u00fd jste ukazovali na Letn\u00e9. M\u016f\u017eete tuto situaci objasnit\u00a0\u2013 pro\u010d k\u00a0tomuto dojmu mohlo doj\u00edt?<\/p>\n

Ve\u0159ejn\u011b jsme komunikovali fakt, \u017ee jsme uprost\u0159ed sb\u00edrky, po dohod\u011b s\u00a0ukrajinskou stranou, sehnali jin\u00fd stroj. Sb\u00edrka \u0161la pomaleji, ne\u017e jsme si p\u0159edstavovali, a\u00a0oni n\u00e1m nab\u00eddli jin\u00fd, levn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed Black Hawk za oce\u00e1nem od spole\u010dnosti, se kterou d\u0159\u00edve komunikovali. Zajistili dopravu a\u00a0sestaven\u00ed stroje, my jsme ho zaplatili. Informaci, \u017ee dodan\u00fd stroj nen\u00ed stejn\u00fd jako ten p\u0159edveden\u00fd, jsme sd\u00edleli mnohokr\u00e1t a\u00a0je st\u00e1le dohledateln\u00e1. Nap\u0159\u00edklad ve videu z\u00a0p\u0159ed\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed jsem \u0159ekl, \u017ee \u201ena Letn\u00e9 ned\u00e1vno p\u0159ist\u00e1l podobn\u00fd stroj\u201c.<\/p>\n

Odkud tedy poch\u00e1z\u00ed stroj, kter\u00fd Ukrajinci dostali? Kde v\u00a0sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b p\u016fsob\u00ed, jak je vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n?<\/p>\n

Vrtuln\u00edk jsme koupili ve Spojen\u00fdch st\u00e1tech americk\u00fdch. Zp\u016fsob, kter\u00fdm se na Ukrajinu dostal, v\u00e1m p\u0159esn\u011b popsat nemohu, m\u016f\u017eu ale \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee p\u0159elet\u011bl p\u0159es Polsko. V\u00a0sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b ho vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 vojensk\u00e1 rozv\u011bdka, my jsme s\u00a0n\u00edm jednou let\u011bli a\u00a0t\u0159ikr\u00e1t jsme ho vid\u011bli. Nen\u00ed to jednoduch\u00e9 – maj\u00ed podobn\u00fdch stroj\u016f v\u00edc. Zn\u00e1me jednoho z\u00a0pilot\u016f, kter\u00fd s\u00a0n\u00edm l\u00e9t\u00e1, a\u00a0od n\u011bj v\u00edme, \u017ee byl t\u0159eba v\u00a0Pokrovsku. Ale co v\u0161echno d\u011bl\u00e1, mapovat nem\u016f\u017eeme.<\/p>\n

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Paukner p\u016fvodn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek smazal, nyn\u00ed kritizuje, \u017ee nebylo zve\u0159ejn\u011bno \u010d\u00edslo, podle kter\u00e9ho by \u0161el stroj dohledat. Pro\u010d jste se rozhodli tento \u00fadaj nebo jin\u00e9 informace, podle kter\u00fdch by mohl b\u00fdt stroj dohled\u00e1n, nesd\u00edlet? <\/p>\n

Je pot\u0159eba si uv\u011bdomit, \u017ee Ukrajina je ve v\u00e1lce. A\u00a0v\u00e1l\u010d\u00edc\u00ed zem\u011b nebude na potk\u00e1n\u00ed zve\u0159ej\u0148ovat v\u00fdrobn\u00ed \u010d\u00edsla takov\u00e9ho stroje. Nechcete, aby se n\u011bjak dalo spo\u010d\u00edtat, kolik helikopt\u00e9r m\u00e1te, nebo aby n\u011bkdo v\u011bd\u011bl, kde kter\u00e1 z\u00a0nich operuje. Je prost\u011b lep\u0161\u00ed, kdy\u017e nep\u0159\u00edtel nedok\u00e1\u017ee zbran\u011b identifikovat. Rusov\u00e9 se o\u00a0to samoz\u0159ejm\u011b sna\u017e\u00ed, a\u00a0to r\u016fzn\u00fdmi metodami, nap\u0159\u00edklad podle \u0161kr\u00e1banc\u016f. <\/p>\n

Vrtuln\u00edk, kter\u00fd jste cht\u011bli koupit p\u016fvodn\u011b, ale pozn\u00e1vac\u00ed zna\u010dku m\u011bl\u2026<\/p>\n

To bylo kv\u016fli tomu, \u017ee se pohybuje v\u00a0\u010cesk\u00e9 republice, kde bez identifikace nem\u016f\u017ee l\u00e9tat. Stejn\u011b tak maj\u00ed zna\u010dky vojensk\u00e1 auta. V\u00a0p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, \u017ee by se vrtuln\u00edk, kter\u00fd jsme p\u016fvodn\u011b cht\u011bli, dostal na Ukrajinu, byla by jak\u00e1koliv mo\u017enost identifikace odstran\u011bna. <\/p>\n

\u201eDokumenty jsme p\u0159ipraveni dolo\u017eit u\u00a0soudu\u201c<\/p>\n

\u010c\u00edm tedy m\u016f\u017eete ve\u0159ejnosti v\u00a0sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b dok\u00e1zat, \u017ee Ukrajina vrtuln\u00edk skute\u010dn\u011b dostala? <\/p>\n

Zve\u0159ejnili jsme video a\u00a0sn\u00edmky z\u00a0p\u0159ed\u00e1n\u00ed, m\u00e1me spoustu z\u00e1b\u011br\u016f a\u00a0fotek, jak v\u00a0sed\u00edm v\u00a0helikopt\u00e9\u0159e nebo kde je vrtuln\u00edk za mnou. Je na nich nav\u00edc vid\u011bt, \u017ee jde o\u00a0jin\u00fd typ vrtuln\u00edku ne\u017e byl p\u016fvodn\u00ed \u010cestm\u00edr. Obchod s\u00a0vojensk\u00fdm materi\u00e1lem je neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b hl\u00eddan\u00fd tajn\u00fdmi slu\u017ebami, m\u00e1me objedn\u00e1vky a\u00a0dodac\u00ed listy, stroj je za\u0159azen na seznamech ukrajinsk\u00e9 arm\u00e1dy a\u00a0m\u016f\u017eeme si vy\u017e\u00e1dat potvrzen\u00ed od ukrajinsk\u00e9ho ministerstva obrany. Tyhle dokumenty jsme p\u0159ipraveni dolo\u017eit u\u00a0soudu.<\/p>\n

Foto: D\u00e1rek pro Putina<\/p>\n

Sn\u00edmek z\u00a0p\u0159ed\u00e1n\u00ed zakoupen\u00e9ho stroje, ke kter\u00e9mu do\u0161lo na Ukrajin\u011b.<\/p>\n

Pokud se pod\u00edv\u00e1te na komunikaci kolem \u010cestm\u00edra zp\u011btn\u011b\u00a0\u2013 mohla za v\u00e1s prob\u011bhnout l\u00e9pe, transparentn\u011bji, aby se nemohla \u0161\u00ed\u0159it podobn\u00e1 sd\u011blen\u00ed? Jak se k\u00a0tomu budete stav\u011bt do budoucna?<\/p>\n

Pokud jde o\u00a0zbran\u011b, nem\u016f\u017eeme postupovat jinak. Te\u010f budeme d\u011blat sb\u00edrku na pom\u011brn\u011b velkou zbra\u0148, budeme moci jen op\u011bt zve\u0159ejnit, o\u00a0co se jedn\u00e1, a\u00a0ne\u017e odejde, tak ji vyfot\u00edme. Pot\u00e9, co zbran\u011b p\u0159ed\u00e1me, nerozhodujeme, co s\u00a0nimi bude, a\u00a0ani nem\u00e1me pr\u00e1vo b\u00fdt o\u00a0tom informov\u00e1ni. Trochu jin\u00fd p\u0159\u00edklad bude sb\u00edrka na gener\u00e1tory. Na podzim zve\u0159ejn\u00edme jej\u00ed kompletn\u00ed vy\u00fa\u010dtov\u00e1n\u00ed, ve kter\u00e9m si dohled\u00e1te oblast s\u00a0fotografickou dokumentac\u00ed, kde je ka\u017ed\u00e9 za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed dra\u017e\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e 15\u00a0tis\u00edc korun.<\/p>\n

V p\u0159edchoz\u00edch dnech jste \u0159ekl, \u017ee pod\u00e1te trestn\u00ed ozn\u00e1men\u00ed na Pauknera. U\u010dinili jste tak?<\/p>\n

Zat\u00edm ne, ale ud\u011bl\u00e1me to v\u00a0nejbli\u017e\u0161\u00edch dnech. Norm\u00e1ln\u00ed \u017ealoba v\u00a0sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e1, proto\u017ee jde o\u00a0anonymn\u00ed \u00fa\u010det. Pod\u00e1me proto trestn\u00ed ozn\u00e1men\u00ed na nezn\u00e1mou osobu a\u00a0a\u017e ji\u00a0policie identifikuje, bude pro n\u00e1s snaz\u0161\u00ed ud\u011blat krok dv\u011b a\u00a0podat \u017ealobu. Pak u\u017e to bude na st\u00e1tn\u00edm zastupitelstv\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Dal\u0161\u00ed trestn\u00ed ozn\u00e1men\u00ed?<\/p>\n

Pl\u00e1nujete podniknout podobn\u00e9 kroky proti dal\u0161\u00edm, kte\u0159\u00ed Pauknerova tvrzen\u00ed sd\u00edleli? Nap\u0159\u00edklad poslance za ANO Denise Doksansk\u00e9ho?<\/p>\n

Trestn\u00ed ozn\u00e1men\u00ed na pana Doksansk\u00e9ho v\u010dera podal europoslanec Tom\u00e1\u0161 Zdechovsk\u00fd (KDU-\u010cSL). Osobn\u011b nejsem p\u0159\u00edznivcem d\u00e1vat trestn\u00ed ozn\u00e1men\u00ed na politiky, ale vylou\u010dit to nyn\u00ed nemohu. Jsme te\u010f ve f\u00e1zi, kdy si d\u011bl\u00e1me pr\u00e1vn\u00ed anal\u00fdzu a\u00a0shroma\u017e\u010fujeme d\u016fkazy. Pro m\u011b je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 d\u00e1t najevo, \u017ee nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9, aby tady n\u011bjak\u00e9 anonymn\u00ed \u00fa\u010dty \u0161\u00ed\u0159ily l\u017ei. A\u00a0\u017ee pokud to n\u011bkdo d\u011bl\u00e1, mus\u00ed b\u00fdt p\u0159ipraven, \u017ee naraz\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Va\u0161e iniciativa pom\u00e1h\u00e1 Ukrajin\u011b od kv\u011btna 2022.\u00a0Jakou techniku, v\u00a0jak\u00e9 cen\u011b, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b jakou dal\u0161\u00ed pomoc jste Ukrajin\u011b za ty \u010dty\u0159i\u00a0roky dodali?<\/p>\n

Od 4.\u00a0kv\u011btna 2022\u00a0jsme vybrali kolem 1,58\u00a0miliardy korun. Jsou za t\u00edm tis\u00edce a\u017e desetitis\u00edce kus\u016f munice, n\u011bkolik velk\u00fdch zbran\u00ed, jako je raketomet RM-70, des\u00edtky tis\u00edc dron\u016f \u010di stovky aut. <\/p>\n

Pozorujete pokles podpory Ukrajiny u\u00a0\u010cech\u016f od za\u010d\u00e1tku v\u00e1lky? <\/p>\n

Nejen my, ale i\u00a0dal\u0161\u00ed organizace, se kter\u00fdmi jsme v\u00a0kontaktu, sleduj\u00ed sp\u00ed\u0161e opa\u010dn\u00fd efekt. Kdy\u017e se pod\u00edv\u00e1m do dat, tak v\u00a0roce 2023\u00a0jsme vybrali 196\u00a0milion\u016f, v\u00a0roce 2024\u00a0256\u00a0milion\u016f a\u00a0loni 384\u00a0milion\u016f. A\u00a0v \u00fanoru leto\u0161n\u00edho roku \u010dinila vybran\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1stka 337\u00a0milion\u016f. Pokud se nestane nic neo\u010dek\u00e1van\u00e9ho, tak letos zase vybereme v\u00edc ne\u017e loni. A\u00a0m\u016fj odhad je, \u017ee se p\u0159ibl\u00ed\u017e\u00edme k\u00a0hranici 400\u00a0milion\u016f.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Profil Thomas Paukner na soci\u00e1ln\u00edch s\u00edt\u00edch zve\u0159ejnil p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek, ve kter\u00e9m tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee nadace D\u00e1rek pro Putina Ukrajin\u011b nedodala…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":174981,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[11],"tags":[3386,38030,54,56,2935,53,52],"class_list":["post-174980","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-svet","tag-darek-pro-putina","tag-sikorsky-uh-60-black-hawk","tag-svet","tag-valka-rusko-ukrajina","tag-vrtulniky","tag-world","tag-world-news"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@cz\/117072086140997440","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/174980","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=174980"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/174980\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/174981"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=174980"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=174980"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=174980"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}