{"id":17855,"date":"2026-03-08T10:40:12","date_gmt":"2026-03-08T10:40:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/17855\/"},"modified":"2026-03-08T10:40:12","modified_gmt":"2026-03-08T10:40:12","slug":"jana-bobosikova-o-moravcovi-a-stavce-v-ct-uz-jsme-to-zazili","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/17855\/","title":{"rendered":"Jana Bobo\u0161\u00edkov\u00e1 o Moravcovi a st\u00e1vce v \u010cT: U\u017e jsme to za\u017eili"},"content":{"rendered":"


\n\tPan\u00ed in\u017een\u00fdrko, Vy \u010dasto \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, \u017ee n\u00e1rodn\u00ed z\u00e1jem nen\u00ed loajalita k velmocem ani po\u010det fotografi\u00ed se zahrani\u010dn\u00edmi st\u00e1tn\u00edky. Jak by podle v\u00e1s m\u011bla \u010cesk\u00e1 republika jako mal\u00e1 zem\u011b v dne\u0161n\u00edm sv\u011bt\u011b prosazovat svou suverenitu?<\/p>\n


\n\tMal\u00fd st\u00e1t nemus\u00ed b\u00fdt slab\u00fd. Slab\u00fd je jen st\u00e1t, kter\u00fd nev\u00ed, co chce. \u010cesk\u00e1 republika dnes \u010dasto zam\u011b\u0148uje n\u00e1rodn\u00ed z\u00e1jem za loajalitu. Jen\u017ee n\u00e1rodn\u00ed z\u00e1jem nen\u00ed potlesk v zahrani\u010d\u00ed ani fotografie z Ov\u00e1ln\u00e9 pracovny. N\u00e1rodn\u00ed z\u00e1jem je velmi konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed v\u011bc: bezpe\u010dn\u00e9 \u00fazem\u00ed, stabiln\u00ed ekonomika, energetick\u00e1 jistota, svoboda slova a schopnost rozhodovat bez ciz\u00edho tlaku. St\u00e1t, kter\u00fd si v\u00e1\u017e\u00ed s\u00e1m sebe, neza\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 ot\u00e1zkou, komu se zavd\u011b\u010dit. Za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 ot\u00e1zkou, co chce s\u00e1m. A podle toho si vyb\u00edr\u00e1 spojence.<\/p>\n


\n\tMluv\u00edte tak\u00e9 o tom, \u017ee sv\u011bt se m\u016f\u017ee vracet k logice sf\u00e9r vlivu, kde rozhoduje s\u00edla. Jak se v takov\u00e9m prost\u0159ed\u00ed m\u016f\u017ee na\u0161e zem\u011b skute\u010dn\u011b prosadit?<\/p>\n


\n\tVelmoci nemaj\u00ed p\u0159\u00e1tele. Maj\u00ed z\u00e1jmy. A mal\u00e9 st\u00e1ty maj\u00ed v takov\u00e9m sv\u011bt\u011b dv\u011b mo\u017enosti \u2013 bu\u010f vyjedn\u00e1vaj\u00ed, nebo poslouchaj\u00ed. Pokud se \u010cesk\u00e1 republika bude chovat jen jako nejdisciplinovan\u011bj\u0161\u00ed vykonavatel ciz\u00edch rozhodnut\u00ed, nikdo n\u00e1s nebude br\u00e1t v\u00e1\u017en\u011b. Respekt si mal\u00e9 st\u00e1ty z\u00edsk\u00e1vaj\u00ed t\u00edm, \u017ee maj\u00ed vlastn\u00ed strategii a dok\u00e1\u017eou ji h\u00e1jit. Suverenita toti\u017e neznamen\u00e1 izolaci. Suverenita znamen\u00e1 schopnost \u0159\u00edct: spolupracujeme, ale za podm\u00ednek, kter\u00e9 si ur\u010dujeme sami.<\/p>\n

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Psali jsme:<\/p>\n


\n\tV debat\u00e1ch o fungov\u00e1n\u00ed demokracie se st\u00e1le \u010dast\u011bji objevuje pojem \u201edeep state\u201c, tedy vlivov\u00e9 struktury, kter\u00e9 mohou p\u016fsobit vedle form\u00e1ln\u00ed politiky. Jak tento fenom\u00e9n vn\u00edm\u00e1te v \u0161ir\u0161\u00edm sv\u011btov\u00e9m kontextu?<\/p>\n


\n\tKa\u017ed\u00fd modern\u00ed st\u00e1t m\u00e1 struktury moci, kter\u00e9 nikdo nevol\u00ed. Bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed apar\u00e1t, velk\u00e9 ekonomick\u00e9 skupiny, \u010d\u00e1sti byrokracie nebo vlivn\u00e1 m\u00e9dia. To samo o sob\u011b nen\u00ed probl\u00e9m. Probl\u00e9m nast\u00e1v\u00e1 ve chv\u00edli, kdy tyto struktury za\u010dnou ur\u010dovat politiku m\u00edsto volen\u00fdch instituc\u00ed. Pak demokracie z\u016fstane navenek zachov\u00e1na, ale skute\u010dn\u00e9 rozhodov\u00e1n\u00ed se p\u0159esune jinam. A ob\u010dan\u00e9 za\u010dnou m\u00edt pocit, \u017ee volby u\u017e nic z\u00e1sadn\u00edho nem\u011bn\u00ed. Jakmile lid\u00e9 ztrat\u00ed v\u00edru, \u017ee jejich hlas n\u011bco znamen\u00e1, demokracie za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 sl\u00e1bnout.<\/p>\n


\n\tPremi\u00e9r Andrej Babi\u0161 v rozhovoru pro Parlamentn\u00edListy.cz<\/a> mluvil o existenci \u010desk\u00e9ho \u201edeep state\u201c, kter\u00fd podle n\u011bj tvo\u0159\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st m\u00e9di\u00ed, politick\u00fdch neziskovek a n\u011bkter\u00e9 vlivov\u00e9 skupiny. Vid\u00edte v \u010desk\u00e9 politice n\u011bco podobn\u00e9ho?<\/p>\n

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Anketa<\/p>\n

Jakou \u0161koln\u00ed zn\u00e1mkou zat\u00edm hodnot\u00edte pr\u00e1ci sou\u010dasn\u00e9 Babi\u0161ovy vl\u00e1dy?<\/p>\n

hlasovalo: 18166 lid\u00ed<\/p>\n

V \u010cesk\u00e9 republice ur\u010dit\u011b existuj\u00ed vlivov\u00e9 s\u00edt\u011b. Propojen\u00ed \u010d\u00e1sti m\u00e9di\u00ed, neziskov\u00e9ho sektoru, bezpe\u010dnostn\u00edch struktur a ekonomick\u00fdch skupin. To ale nen\u00ed \u010desk\u00e1 zvl\u00e1\u0161tnost. To je realita modern\u00ed politiky v mnoha demokraci\u00edch. Podstatn\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka proto nen\u00ed, zda tyto s\u00edt\u011b existuj\u00ed. Podstatn\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka je jin\u00e1: kdo v takov\u00e9m syst\u00e9mu skute\u010dn\u011b rozhoduje. Zda volen\u00e9 instituce, nebo neform\u00e1ln\u00ed struktury vlivu. Pokud ob\u010dan\u00e9 p\u0159est\u00e1vaj\u00ed v\u011bd\u011bt, kdo nese odpov\u011bdnost za rozhodnut\u00ed st\u00e1tu, je to v\u017edy probl\u00e9m demokracie.<\/p>\n


\n\tV t\u00e9to souvislosti jste tak\u00e9 kritizovala nov\u00fd trestn\u00fd \u010din neopr\u00e1vn\u011bn\u00e9 \u010dinnosti pro ciz\u00ed moc. Co v\u00e1m na t\u00e9to \u00faprav\u011b p\u0159ipad\u00e1 nejproblemati\u010dt\u011bj\u0161\u00ed?<\/p>\n


\n\tKa\u017ed\u00fd st\u00e1t mus\u00ed chr\u00e1nit sv\u00e9 bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed z\u00e1jmy. To je samoz\u0159ejm\u00e9. Ale z\u00e1kony mus\u00ed b\u00fdt formulov\u00e1ny velmi p\u0159esn\u011b. Pokud jsou p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 v\u00e1gn\u00ed, mohou b\u00fdt zneu\u017eiteln\u00e9. U tohoto trestn\u00e9ho \u010dinu je probl\u00e9m pr\u00e1v\u011b v tom, \u017ee hranice nen\u00ed dostate\u010dn\u011b jasn\u00e1. Demokracie mus\u00ed velmi p\u0159esn\u011b rozli\u0161it mezi skute\u010dnou \u0161pion\u00e1\u017e\u00ed a mezi legitimn\u00ed politickou debatou. St\u00e1t, kter\u00fd za\u010dne kriminalizovat n\u00e1zory, p\u0159est\u00e1v\u00e1 b\u00fdt sebev\u011bdom\u00fd. A sebev\u011bdom\u00fd st\u00e1t si tohle nem\u016f\u017ee dovolit.<\/p>\n


\n\tDo podobn\u00fdch debat vstupuj\u00ed i bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed instituce. Jak dnes hodnot\u00edte fungov\u00e1n\u00ed BIS a pr\u00e1ci jej\u00edho \u0159editele Michala Koudelky?<\/p>\n


\n\tZpravodajsk\u00e9 slu\u017eby maj\u00ed v ka\u017ed\u00e9m st\u00e1t\u011b obrovskou moc. Pracuj\u00ed s informacemi, kter\u00e9 ve\u0159ejnost nevid\u00ed. Pr\u00e1v\u011b proto mus\u00ed b\u00fdt pod velmi p\u0159\u00edsnou demokratickou kontrolou. Jakmile se bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed instituce za\u010dnou objevovat v politick\u00fdch sporech nebo v medi\u00e1ln\u00edch debat\u00e1ch, v\u017edy to vyvol\u00e1v\u00e1 ot\u00e1zku, kde kon\u010d\u00ed bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed pr\u00e1ce a kde za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 politick\u00fd vliv. A v demokracii mus\u00ed b\u00fdt tato hranice naprosto jasn\u00e1.<\/p>\n

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Psali jsme:<\/p>\n


\n\tOt\u00e1zka vlivu na ve\u0159ejnou debatu se pak p\u0159irozen\u011b dot\u00fdk\u00e1 i m\u00e9di\u00ed. V posledn\u00edch m\u011bs\u00edc\u00edch se pozornost soust\u0159ed\u00ed zejm\u00e9na na \u010ceskou televizi. V souvislosti s pl\u00e1nem zru\u0161it koncesion\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 poplatky zazn\u011blo z jej\u00edho zpravodajstv\u00ed, \u017ee jednou z mo\u017enost\u00ed m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt i st\u00e1vka redaktor\u016f na obranu nez\u00e1vislosti. Jak na v\u00e1s takov\u00e1 slova p\u016fsob\u00ed?<\/p>\n


\n\tNovin\u00e1\u0159i maj\u00ed pr\u00e1vo na n\u00e1zor. Ale ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed instituce m\u00e1 jinou odpov\u011bdnost ne\u017e soukrom\u00e9 m\u00e9dium. Je financov\u00e1na ob\u010dany a m\u00e1 vytv\u00e1\u0159et prostor pro pluralitu n\u00e1zor\u016f. Pokud zam\u011bstnanci ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed televize za\u010dnou mluvit o st\u00e1vce kv\u016fli politick\u00fdm rozhodnut\u00edm parlamentu, vznik\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka, zda instituce nep\u0159est\u00e1v\u00e1 b\u00fdt moder\u00e1torem debaty a nest\u00e1v\u00e1 se jej\u00edm \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edkem. A to je v demokracii velmi citliv\u00e1 hranice.<\/p>\n

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\t\t\t\tFotogalerie: – Pavel ve sn\u011bmovn\u011b<\/p>\n


\n\tVy sama m\u00e1te osobn\u00ed zku\u0161enost s televizn\u00ed kriz\u00ed z let 2000\u20132001. Vid\u00edte mezi tehdej\u0161\u00ed situac\u00ed a dne\u0161n\u00ed debatou o \u010cesk\u00e9 televizi n\u011bjak\u00e9 paralely?<\/p>\n

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Anketa<\/p>\n

Jste pro zru\u0161en\u00ed poplatk\u016f pro \u010cT a \u010cRo?<\/p>\n

hlasovalo: 64373 lid\u00ed<\/p>\n

Ano, ur\u010ditou paralelu vid\u00edm. V obou p\u0159\u00edpadech jde o spor o vliv na ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed instituci.<\/p>\n


\n\tRozd\u00edl je ale z\u00e1sadn\u00ed. Tehdy existovalo n\u011bkolik velk\u00fdch m\u00e9di\u00ed, kter\u00e1 ur\u010dovala ve\u0159ejnou debatu. Dnes u\u017e medi\u00e1ln\u00ed prostor nen\u00ed monopoln\u00ed. Vedle velk\u00fdch m\u00e9di\u00ed existuj\u00ed internetov\u00e1 m\u00e9dia, nov\u00e9 projekty a soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b. Lid\u00e9 maj\u00ed mnohem \u0161ir\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00edstup k informac\u00edm. A pr\u00e1v\u011b to m\u011bn\u00ed i jejich pohled na \u010ceskou televizi a na ot\u00e1zku jej\u00ed domn\u011bl\u00e9 nepostradatelnosti.<\/p>\n


\n\tO roli \u010cesk\u00e9 televize se vedou dlouhodob\u00e9 spory. N\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed novin\u00e1\u0159i, nap\u0159\u00edklad Jakub \u017delezn\u00fd, zd\u016fraz\u0148uj\u00ed jej\u00ed v\u00fdznam v krizov\u00fdch situac\u00edch. Jin\u00ed, nap\u0159\u00edklad medi\u00e1ln\u00ed analytik \u0160t\u011bp\u00e1n Kotrba, varuj\u00ed p\u0159ed t\u00edm, aby ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed m\u00e9dia nep\u0159eb\u00edrala roli \u201evychovatele\u201c spole\u010dnosti. Jak tuto debatu vn\u00edm\u00e1te vy?<\/p>\n


\n\tPodle m\u011b je kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00e9, aby ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed m\u00e9dia plnila t\u0159i z\u00e1kladn\u00ed funkce: informovat, kontrolovat moc a vytv\u00e1\u0159et prostor pro pluralitu n\u00e1zor\u016f. Jakmile se m\u00e9dia za\u010dnou stav\u011bt do role vychovatele spole\u010dnosti, vstupuj\u00ed na velmi tenk\u00fd led. Demokracie toti\u017e nestoj\u00ed na tom, \u017ee n\u011bkdo lidem \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, co si maj\u00ed myslet. Demokracie stoj\u00ed na tom, \u017ee lid\u00e9 maj\u00ed dost informac\u00ed, aby si n\u00e1zor vytvo\u0159ili sami.<\/p>\n


\n\tModer\u00e1tor V\u00e1clav Moravec ned\u00e1vno \u0159ekl, \u017ee v \u010cesk\u00e9 televizi \u201enebude za ka\u017edou cenu\u201c a pokud by zm\u011bny \u0161ly proti jeho sv\u011bdom\u00ed, odejde. Do debaty se z\u00e1rove\u0148 vr\u00e1til spor o to, \u017ee Tomio Okamura byl do jeho po\u0159adu pozv\u00e1n a\u017e po dev\u00edti letech. Co podle v\u00e1s tyto ud\u00e1losti \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed o dne\u0161n\u00ed ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed debat\u011b?<\/p>\n


\n\tUkazuj\u00ed p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm to, jak citliv\u00e9 je t\u00e9ma plurality v m\u00e9di\u00edch. Ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed m\u00e9dia mus\u00ed poskytovat prostor r\u016fzn\u00fdm politick\u00fdm n\u00e1zor\u016fm. Pokud n\u011bkter\u00e9 politick\u00e9 hlasy dost\u00e1vaj\u00ed prostor a\u017e po mnoha letech, m\u016f\u017ee to vyvol\u00e1vat pochybnosti o vyv\u00e1\u017eenosti debaty. Ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00ed m\u00e9dia toti\u017e nejsou projektem redaktor\u016f ani moder\u00e1tor\u016f. Jsou to instituce financovan\u00e9 ob\u010dany. A jejich \u00fakolem je vytv\u00e1\u0159et otev\u0159en\u00fd prostor pro ve\u0159ejnou diskusi. Proto\u017ee siln\u00fd st\u00e1t neza\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 v zahrani\u010d\u00ed. Siln\u00fd st\u00e1t za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 doma \u2013 u toho, jak h\u00e1j\u00ed sv\u00e9 z\u00e1jmy, jak hospoda\u0159\u00ed s pen\u011bzi sv\u00fdch ob\u010dan\u016f a jak chr\u00e1n\u00ed svobodu ve\u0159ejn\u00e9 debaty. A mo\u017en\u00e1 je dnes \u00fapln\u011b nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ot\u00e1zka: v\u00ed \u010cesk\u00e1 republika, co chce sama?<\/p>\n

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