{"id":31973,"date":"2026-03-22T10:21:09","date_gmt":"2026-03-22T10:21:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/31973\/"},"modified":"2026-03-22T10:21:09","modified_gmt":"2026-03-22T10:21:09","slug":"kdyby-nezneuzivali-moc-nikdo-demonstrovat-nemusel-rika-minar-k-letne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/31973\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201eKdyby\u00a0nezneu\u017e\u00edvali moc, nikdo demonstrovat nemusel,\u201c \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 Min\u00e1\u0159 k\u00a0Letn\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"

Zat\u00edmco v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed m\u00ed\u0159ila ze sobotn\u00ed Letn\u00e9 do okoln\u00edch \u010di vzd\u00e1len\u011bj\u0161\u00edch podnik\u016f nebo dom\u016f, Mikul\u00e1\u0161 Min\u00e1\u0159 se u\u00a0p\u00f3dia fotil s\u00a0podporovateli spolku Milion chvilek pro demokracii. <\/p>\n

Po n\u011bkolika hodin\u00e1ch post\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed a\u00a0\u0159e\u010dn\u011bn\u00ed venku mu byla o\u010dividn\u011b zima, novin\u00e1\u0159\u016fm p\u0159iznal \u00fanavu. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 z\u00a0n\u011bj byla c\u00edtit i\u00a0\u00faleva, jist\u00e1 d\u00e1vka nad\u011bje a\u00a0m\u00edrn\u00e9 roz\u010darov\u00e1n\u00ed. \u201ePoda\u0159ilo se to a\u00a0uk\u00e1zalo se, \u017ee je opravdu d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 se postavit na obranu demokratick\u00fdch princip\u016f,\u201c zhodnotil akci, na kterou dorazilo podle odhad\u016f \u010dtvrt milionu lid\u00ed z\u00a0r\u016fzn\u00fdch kout\u016f \u010ceska.<\/p>\n

V rozhovoru pro Seznam Zpr\u00e1vy vysv\u011btluje, co spolek vedlo ke svol\u00e1n\u00ed shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed po p\u00e1r m\u011bs\u00edc\u00edch vl\u00e1dnut\u00ed Andreje Babi\u0161e a\u00a0pro\u010d Chvilky nedemonstrovaly b\u011bhem \u00e9ry Petra Fialy.<\/p>\n

Je\u0161t\u011b p\u0159ed shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00edm na Letn\u00e9 jste mluvil o\u00a0tom, \u017ee o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1te podobnou \u00fa\u010dast jako\u00a0p\u0159ed sedmi lety. A\u00a0z\u0159ejm\u011b to vy\u0161lo. Co je podle v\u00e1s d\u016fvodem, \u017ee jste p\u0159il\u00e1kali p\u0159es dv\u011b st\u011b tis\u00edc lid\u00ed?<\/p>\n

Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee jsme je nep\u0159il\u00e1kali my nebo j\u00e1, ale vl\u00e1da. Je to toti\u017e o\u00a0celkov\u00e9 situaci v\u00a0zemi, lid\u00e9 pozoruj\u00ed, kam se to ub\u00edr\u00e1. A\u00a0to je to, co lidi ve skute\u010dnosti \u017eene do ulic. Alespo\u0148 tak to vid\u00edm j\u00e1. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 to \u010d\u00edslo je neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b nad\u011bjn\u00e9, proto\u017ee ukazuje, \u017ee ti lid\u00e9 tady po\u0159\u00e1d jsou a\u00a0maj\u00ed ochotu a\u00a0v\u016fli n\u011bco d\u011blat. Proto i\u00a0douf\u00e1m, \u017ee n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed se t\u0159eba posunou nad ob\u010dansk\u00fd r\u00e1mec a\u00a0zv\u00e1\u017e\u00ed t\u0159eba i\u00a0anga\u017em\u00e1 v\u00a0politick\u00fdch stran\u00e1ch. Proto\u017ee kdy\u017e budeme jenom nad\u00e1vat na to, co je \u0161patn\u011b, a\u00a0nebudeme sami pro to n\u011bco d\u011blat, tak se to nezlep\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Je\u0161t\u011b hodinu p\u0159ed za\u010d\u00e1tkem ale nebylo jist\u00e9, jestli se pl\u00e1\u0148 zapln\u00ed. Byl jste nerv\u00f3zn\u00ed?<\/p>\n

Jo. Nev\u011bd\u011bl jsem, jak to dopadne, je\u0161t\u011b v\u00a0noci jsem nad t\u00edm p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lel. A\u00a0je\u0161t\u011b p\u00e1r hodin p\u0159ed za\u010d\u00e1tkem jsem si nebyl jist\u00fd, jestli lid\u00e9 p\u0159ijdou, nebo nep\u0159ijdou. P\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lel jsem, jestli tu situaci vid\u00ed jako z\u00e1va\u017enou. Ale poda\u0159ilo se to a\u00a0uk\u00e1zalo se, \u017ee je opravdu d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 se postavit na obranu demokratick\u00fdch princip\u016f a\u00a0proti sm\u011b\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed na v\u00fdchod, sm\u011br Slovensko a\u00a0Ma\u010farsko.<\/p>\n

A te\u010f j\u00e1 nev\u00edm p\u0159esn\u011b, kolik lid\u00ed tu bylo (rozhovor vznikl bezprost\u0159edn\u011b po konci shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed, kdy organiz\u00e1to\u0159i neznali podrobn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed odhady, pozn. red.), ale byl to podobn\u00fd po\u010det jako minule. I\u00a0kdy\u017e mi i\u00a0p\u0159i\u0161lo, \u017ee t\u0159eba v\u00a0parku post\u00e1v\u00e1 v\u00edc lid\u00ed, ale te\u010f v\u00e1\u017en\u011b nev\u00edm. <\/p>\n

Foto: Michal Turek, Seznam Zpr\u00e1vy<\/p>\n

Mikul\u00e1\u0161 Min\u00e1\u0159 na p\u00f3diu apeloval na opozi\u010dn\u00ed strany, aby se otev\u0159ely mlad\u00fdm a\u00a0nov\u00fdm lidem. Ve\u0159ejnost tak\u00e9 vyzval k\u00a0v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed politick\u00e9 anga\u017eovanosti, nap\u0159\u00edklad skrze \u010dlenstv\u00ed v\u00a0politick\u00fdch stran\u00e1ch.<\/p>\n

Sou\u010dasn\u00e1 vl\u00e1da nicm\u00e9n\u011b nen\u00ed u\u00a0moci ani p\u016fl roku. Nebylo by lep\u0161\u00ed nechat j\u00ed je\u0161t\u011b p\u00e1r m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f\u00a0\u2013 prvn\u00ed rok\u00a0\u2013 ne\u017e hned svol\u00e1vat demonstrace?<\/p>\n

To z\u00e1vis\u00ed na tom, co dan\u00e1 vl\u00e1da d\u011bl\u00e1. Kdyby se dr\u017eeli n\u011bjak\u00fdch mantinel\u016f a\u00a0nezneu\u017e\u00edvali moc, neza\u010dali destruovat demokratick\u00e9 instituce a\u00a0d\u011blat bezprecedentn\u00ed kroky, tak by nikdo demonstrovat nemusel. <\/p>\n

My jsme \u0159\u00edkali mnohokr\u00e1t, \u017ee nemus\u00ed b\u00fdt ani jedna demonstrace, po cel\u00e9 \u010dty\u0159i roky. Sta\u010dilo by skute\u010dn\u011b \u0159e\u0161it ekonomiku, soci\u00e1ln\u00ed ot\u00e1zky a\u00a0tak d\u00e1le a\u00a0nesna\u017eit se vlastn\u011b tu moc uchv\u00e1tit. Ale v\u00a0moment\u011b, kdy se zem\u011b oligarchizuje a\u00a0ovliv\u0148uje se st\u00e1tn\u00ed spr\u00e1va, nebo ten, kdo m\u00e1 pen\u00edze, moc a\u00a0vliv, si dosad\u00ed svoje lidi v\u0161ude tam, kde je m\u00edt pot\u0159ebuje, nen\u00ed divu, \u017ee lid\u00e9 \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed: \u201eNe, dost, tohle my prost\u011b nechceme, proto\u017ee je to stra\u0161n\u011b nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9.\u201c<\/p>\n

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Z\u00e1rove\u0148 se ale u\u017e od \u00fanora, p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm od podporovatel\u016f i\u00a0z\u00e1stupc\u016f vl\u00e1dn\u00edho t\u00e1bora, oz\u00fdv\u00e1, \u017ee protestuj\u00edc\u00ed \u201enerespektuj\u00ed volby\u201c. Ministr Macinka to po va\u0161em shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed op\u011bt zopakoval. Jak to vn\u00edm\u00e1te vy?<\/p>\n

Tohle nen\u00ed o\u00a0nerespektov\u00e1n\u00ed voleb, ale pr\u00e1v\u011b o\u00a0zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00fdch mantinelech. Je p\u0159eci \u00fastavn\u00ed pr\u00e1vo se shroma\u017e\u010fovat. To je jeden z\u00a0pil\u00ed\u0159\u016f demokracie, d\u00e1vat najevo sv\u016fj n\u00e1zor. Proto\u017ee demokracie nen\u00ed o\u00a0tom b\u00fdt zvolen a\u00a0spole\u010dnost pak mus\u00ed b\u00fdt dal\u0161\u00ed \u010dty\u0159i roky zticha a\u00a0dr\u017eet krok. Nech\u0165 vl\u00e1dnou, ale ve chv\u00edli, kdy za\u010dnou moc zneu\u017e\u00edvat a\u00a0demontovat pil\u00ed\u0159e demokracie, je to probl\u00e9m. <\/p>\n

A to, \u017ee m\u00e1me demokratick\u00e9 volby, je\u0161t\u011b neznamen\u00e1, \u017ee z\u00a0nich nevzejde stav, kdy jsme na naklon\u011bn\u00e9 rovin\u011b. V\u00a0demokratick\u00e9 zemi toti\u017e lze demokracii zlomit, a\u00a0proto je t\u0159eba tomu \u010delit v\u010das a\u00a0\u0159\u00edct\u00a0\u2013 jako tady\u00a0\u2013 politik\u016fm: \u201eK tomuhle mand\u00e1t nem\u00e1te.\u201c<\/p>\n

\u010c\u00e1st \u010cech\u016f si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee p\u0159isp\u00edv\u00e1te k\u00a0polarizaci spole\u010dnosti. V\u00edm, \u017ee jste v\u00a0jednom rozhovoru mluvil o\u00a0tom, \u017ee byste cht\u011bl \u201erozb\u00edjet\u201c n\u00e1zorov\u00e9 bubliny. Jak toho chcete dos\u00e1hnout? Proto\u017ee s\u00a0va\u0161imi akcemi sympatizuje z\u0159ejm\u011b jasn\u011b definovan\u00e1 skupina lid\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Nev\u00edm, jestli se n\u00e1m poda\u0159\u00ed p\u0159\u00edmo oslovit vl\u00e1dn\u00ed voli\u010de ve chv\u00edli, kdy se proti hnut\u00ed ANO, Motorist\u016fm a\u00a0SPD aktivn\u011b vymezujeme. Na druhou stranu v\u00edm, \u017ee ve chv\u00edli, kdy ta masovost p\u0159ekro\u010d\u00ed ur\u010dit\u00fd pr\u00e1h, co\u017e se pr\u00e1v\u011b na t\u011bch Letn\u00fdch d\u011bje, za\u010dne to zasahovat extr\u00e9mn\u011b \u0161irok\u00e9 spole\u010densk\u00e9 vrstvy. M\u00e1 to vliv na spoustu lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed t\u0159eba ani nevol\u00ed, jsou zklaman\u00ed nebo v\u00e1haj\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Z\u00e1rove\u0148 je tu je\u0161t\u011b dal\u0161\u00ed d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 v\u011bc, kter\u00e1 zazn\u011bla na p\u00f3diu, a\u00a0to je kritika sm\u011brem k\u00a0opozici. Oni toti\u017e tak\u00e9 ned\u011blali v\u0161echno dob\u0159e. A\u00a0nemohou to v\u0161echno lakovat na r\u016f\u017eovo, proto\u017ee lid\u00e9 jim to nezba\u0161t\u00ed. <\/p>\n

V tomto kontextu n\u011bkdy zazn\u00edv\u00e1, \u017ee jste byli na b\u00fdvalou vl\u00e1du \u201ea\u017e p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 hodn\u00ed\u201c a\u00a0protesty jste nesvol\u00e1vali. Nebyla to\u00a0\u2013 zp\u011btn\u011b vid\u011bno, a\u00a0kdy\u017e se bav\u00edme o\u00a0t\u00e9 polarizaci\u00a0\u2013 chyba?<\/p>\n

Kdy\u017e se t\u0159eba \u0159e\u0161ila bitcoinov\u00e1 af\u00e9ra, u\u00a0Chvilek jsem nebyl. To je podle m\u011b d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 \u0159\u00edct. A\u00a0tak\u00e9 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee se skute\u010dn\u011b d\u011bly z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e9 kauzy, ale nebylo to na \u00farovni syst\u00e9mov\u00e9ho ohro\u017een\u00ed demokracie. Ned\u011blo se, \u017ee by n\u011bkdo zpochyb\u0148oval justici nebo ji cht\u011bl uchv\u00e1tit, nikdo nemluvil o\u00a0zest\u00e1tn\u011bn\u00ed ve\u0159ejnopr\u00e1vn\u00edch m\u00e9di\u00ed. O\u00a0extr\u00e9mn\u00ed oligarchizaci v\u00fdznamn\u00e9 strany nemluv\u011b.<\/p>\n

Ano, d\u011bly se \u0161patn\u00e9 v\u011bci, korupce se d\u011bje a\u00a0bohu\u017eel i\u00a0d\u00edt bude. Kdy\u017e lid\u00e9 mluv\u00ed o\u00a0Dozimetru, stoj\u00ed ale za p\u0159ipom\u00ednku, \u017ee ti lid\u00e9 v\u00a0politice skon\u010dili, a\u00a0tak\u00e9 tam byli politici z\u00a0v\u00edcero stran. To stejn\u00e9 ten bitcoin. Milion chvilek vyzval Bla\u017eka k\u00a0rezignaci a\u00a0on tak\u00e9 rezignoval. Jak chcete potom lidi hn\u00e1t do ulic? Kdyby tam z\u016fstal a\u00a0zatvrdil se, to by \u010cesko vid\u011blo demonstrace. Ale n\u011bkter\u00e9 v\u011bci jsou tak\u00e9 o\u00a0soudnosti politik\u016f.<\/p>\n

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V n\u00e1vaznosti na to se nab\u00edz\u00ed ot\u00e1zka, jestli jste n\u011bkdy uva\u017eoval o\u00a0jin\u00e9m form\u00e1tu. S\u00e1m jste zm\u00ednil, \u017ee se v\u00e1m asi demonstrac\u00ed nepoda\u0159\u00ed oslovit voli\u010de koalice. Nep\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lel jste tak t\u0159eba o\u00a0akci, kde by se mohlo vyj\u00e1d\u0159it v\u00edce stran n\u00e1zorov\u00e9ho spektra?<\/p>\n

Rozhodn\u011b o\u00a0tom p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00edm, polarizace je toti\u017e obecn\u011b velk\u00fd probl\u00e9m. Mus\u00edme\u00a0\u2013 a\u00a0to si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je \u00fakol n\u00e1s v\u0161ech v\u010detn\u011b opozi\u010dn\u00edch stran\u00a0\u2013 br\u00e1t velmi v\u00e1\u017en\u011b pocity a\u00a0pot\u0159eby lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed vol\u00ed Andreje Babi\u0161e, sna\u017eit se je pochopit, sna\u017eit se jim porozum\u011bt. Ale\u00a0to neznamen\u00e1 v\u0161echno schvalovat nebo nikdy ne\u0159\u00edct \u201etohle je u\u017e za \u010d\u00e1rou\u201c. <\/p>\n

J\u00e1 po\u0159\u00e1d v\u011b\u0159\u00edm v\u00a0dobro v\u00a0lidech a\u00a0tak\u00e9 v\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee nikdo nevol\u00ed n\u011bjakou osobu nebo stranu proto, \u017ee by byl zl\u00fd. V\u0161ichni se sna\u017e\u00ed d\u011blat v\u00a0z\u00e1sad\u011b dobro, tak\u017ee m\u00e1 smysl se s\u00a0ka\u017ed\u00fdm bavit a\u00a0ka\u017ed\u00e9mu se sna\u017eit naslouchat. Tak\u017ee p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00edm, ale zat\u00edm nev\u00edm. Musel by to b\u00fdt \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00fd form\u00e1t ne\u017e demonstrace, proto\u017ee bohu\u017eel na demonstraci v\u00e1m v\u017edycky p\u0159ijde velk\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st n\u00e1zorov\u00fdch sympatizant\u016f. A\u00a0b\u00e1l bych se vyhrocen\u00ed. Nejsp\u00ed\u0161e by to cht\u011blo n\u011bjak\u00e9 \u201ekruhov\u00e9 uspo\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed\u201c, kde se lid\u00e9 pobav\u00ed, pro\u010d se n\u011bjak c\u00edt\u00ed. Ale to nen\u00ed na n\u00e1m\u011bst\u00ed.<\/p>\n

V \u00fanoru jste po\u0159\u00e1dali na Starom\u011bstsk\u00e9m n\u00e1m\u011bst\u00ed akci na podporu prezidenta. V\u00a0p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b Letn\u00e9 jste u\u017e mluvili o\u00a0\u0161ir\u0161\u00edch politick\u00fdch souvislostech\u00a0\u2013 obrana, m\u00e9dia, neziskovky. Podlehli jste n\u00e1zor\u016fm, \u017ee s\u00a0op\u00edr\u00e1n\u00edm se o\u00a0prezidenta d\u011bl\u00e1te chybu a\u00a0\u0161kod\u00edte mu t\u00edm?<\/p>\n

\u00datok na prezidenta byl na za\u010d\u00e1tku bezprost\u0159edn\u00ed impulz, proto\u017ee ty zpr\u00e1vy skute\u010dn\u011b zvedly lidi ze \u017eidle. Ale ve skute\u010dnosti ani demonstrace za prezidenta by nebyly tak siln\u00e9, kdyby lid\u00e9 nevn\u00edmali celkov\u00e9 ohro\u017een\u00ed v\u00a0mnoha oblastech. A\u00a0zase, lid\u00e9 podporuj\u00ed prezidenta, proto\u017ee se stav\u00ed za n\u011bjak\u00e9 hodnoty a\u00a0stav\u00ed se proti destrukci nastaven\u00fdch demokratick\u00fdch pravidel.<\/p>\n

Naopak si ale mysl\u00edm, \u017ee te\u010f u\u017e \u0161lo o\u00a0jasn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed toho, co je probl\u00e9m. Ano, to co ud\u011blal Petr Macinka, bylo ot\u0159esn\u00e9. Ale re\u00e1ln\u00fd probl\u00e9m je mocensk\u00e9 rozeb\u00edr\u00e1n\u00ed t\u00e9to zem\u011b, odvol\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed nepohodln\u00fdch lid\u00ed z\u00a0d\u016fle\u017eit\u00fdch funkc\u00ed, destrukce st\u00e1tn\u00ed spr\u00e1vy ve form\u011b ru\u0161en\u00ed slu\u017eebn\u00edho z\u00e1kona, oligarchizace. Tohle je pot\u0159eba pojmenov\u00e1vat a\u00a0je nutn\u00e9 tomu \u010delit. A\u00a0to tak\u00e9 lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed na Letnou p\u0159i\u0161li, d\u011blaj\u00ed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Zat\u00edmco v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed m\u00ed\u0159ila ze sobotn\u00ed Letn\u00e9 do okoln\u00edch \u010di vzd\u00e1len\u011bj\u0161\u00edch podnik\u016f nebo dom\u016f, Mikul\u00e1\u0161 Min\u00e1\u0159 se u\u00a0p\u00f3dia…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":31974,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[7],"tags":[43,42,41,40,2837,3951],"class_list":["post-31973","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-cesko","tag-ceska-republika","tag-cesko","tag-czech-republic","tag-czechia","tag-demonstrace","tag-mikulas-minar"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@cz\/116272331686502547","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31973","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31973"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31973\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/31974"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31973"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31973"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/cz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31973"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}