{"id":5597,"date":"2026-08-04T11:02:38","date_gmt":"2026-08-04T11:02:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/defence\/5597\/"},"modified":"2026-08-04T11:02:38","modified_gmt":"2026-08-04T11:02:38","slug":"aukus-bungle-conroy-contradicted-over-us-sub-base-future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/defence\/5597\/","title":{"rendered":"AUKUS bungle: Conroy contradicted over US sub base future"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>15 hours ago.<\/p>\n<p>Updated\u00a08 hours ago<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753iEB\"><a class=\"body-link capi-link\" data-id=\"52ea8fc8cedd14a02e2793e31cb1434b\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theaustralian.com.au\/commentary\/frankly-i-do-not-know-what-monoculture-means-in-australia\/news-story\/52ea8fc8cedd14a02e2793e31cb1434b\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"52ea8fc8cedd14a02e2793e31cb1434b\" data-tgev-label=\"commentary\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">John Howard shrewdly observed<\/a> that the immigration discussion is blighted by a pointless debate about abstract nouns \u2013 monoculturalism and multiculturalism \u2013 which could mean almost anything. He might have made the same point regarding the debate <a class=\"body-link capi-link\" data-id=\"a421318632b78c8132230f1e25c6d710\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theaustralian.com.au\/world\/full-steam-ahead-on-aukus-as-sceptics-step-up-their-attacks\/news-story\/a421318632b78c8132230f1e25c6d710\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"a421318632b78c8132230f1e25c6d710\" data-tgev-label=\"world\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">about AUKUS<\/a>, another abstract noun with a wildly elastic range of meanings. Certainly, the statements of Defence Minister Richard Marles and <a class=\"body-link capi-link\" data-id=\"a421318632b78c8132230f1e25c6d710\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theaustralian.com.au\/world\/full-steam-ahead-on-aukus-as-sceptics-step-up-their-attacks\/news-story\/a421318632b78c8132230f1e25c6d710\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"a421318632b78c8132230f1e25c6d710\" data-tgev-label=\"world\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy<\/a> range from implausible to contradictory to ridiculous a good deal of the time.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753fd\">The latest almost comically implausible mess seems to have been all Conroy\u2019s work. Under AUKUS, from next year, American and possibly British submarines will rotate through Perth in an arrangement called Submarine Rotation Force West. They won\u2019t be permanently based in Perth, but will visit sometimes for months.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753JTB\">The Albanese government has consistently sold this as contributing directly to Australia\u2019s security, contributing to allied deterrence, giving the US a useful regional access point, and allowing deep maintenance of both US, and eventually Australian, nuclear submarines. This would relieve some of the congestion in the US maintenance program and thus free up more sailing days for US nuclear subs. So would reducing the time for US subs transiting from Hawaii to the Indian Ocean side of the Indo-Pacific. <\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753e7G\">All this was predicated on the idea that Canberra thinks it benefits us, and the world, for more US nuclear submarines to be at sea more often. But then former Defence Department deputy secretary Mike Pezzullo noted that from 2032 on, US policy planned to have some Virginia-class nuclear-powered subs armed with short-range nuclear weapons.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753xkD\">This sent a frisson of worry through the Albanese government, as it has never succeeded, largely because it\u2019s never tried, in selling AUKUS in principle to its activist base. An infinitely superior generation of Labor leaders, Bob Hawke and Kim Beazley, convinced the Labor Party to support the welcome of US naval ships to Australian ports even though the US had a \u201cneither confirm nor deny\u201d policy regarding whether any particular ship carried nuclear weapons.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753wcD\">But the Albanese government is not only incompetent, it\u2019s cowardly. It\u2019s frequently caught in an unmanageable vortex of conflicting imperatives from conflicting impulses of cowardice.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753w8E\">In any event, on July 29, in an interview on the ABC\u2019s 7.30, Conroy said: \u201cSubmarine Rotation Force West is due to come to an end in the early 2030s.\u201d He repeated this point several times, specifying the year 2032. The context is important. Sarah Ferguson was asking him if, after Virginias began potentially to carry nuclear weapons, their presence in Perth would cause a problem. Conroy chose to answer this by saying the arrangement would come to an end in 2032. In that interview, he at no point suggested any ongoing arrangement to replace it.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753jHH\">Ferguson herself, in her promo for the interview, was under no doubt in interpreting Conroy\u2019s statement. She said: \u201c(Conroy) said for the first time that the American Navy submarine rotation would end in 2032.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753uGE\">This would have been astounding news to Washington. It\u2019s hard to know, too, why so many naval personnel berths are being built in Perth if we\u2019re only going to have the minuscule Australian crew there after 2032. Gone too, apparently, are all those arrangements about long-term maintenance.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753EfC\">For a couple of days no one could get any reaction from the Pentagon. Then on July 31, Marles gave an interview in which he repeatedly said: \u201cSubmarine Rotational Force West is intended to be an enduring feature of that American force posture in Australia and it\u2019s a really important part of the AUKUS framework.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"poster-img\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/defence\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/d380539020eec55b5820d8d8be013b0a.jpeg\" data-sctrack=\"op-poster-img\" alt=\"Australia should be importing \u2018vast quantities\u2019 of modern drones\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753dBD\">The Pentagon itself then issued a statement noting the \u201cenduring\u201d nature of the arrangements. Then Conroy himself issued a social media statement, bizarrely on X, without defence portfolio or even personal ministerial letterhead, which said: \u201cSubmarine Rotational Force West is intended to be an enduring element of US Force Posture in Australia.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753FdD\">That, and Conroy\u2019s initial 7.30 statement, cannot both be true. What seems to have happened is that the Pentagon slapped Marles into line, and Marles slapped Conroy into line. Conroy could attempt some kind of verbal sleight-of-hand defence that the name under which US submarines rotate through Perth might change. But that\u2019s not what he said on 7.30. He just declared the arrangement would end.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753YII\">It seemed for a minute a government minister had announced a major shift in policy but people were right to assume that because these ministers so incessantly talk such implausible rubbish that it was just another gaffe. My interpretation of this baffling but typical Albanese government defence mess is that it was Conroy attempting to make some response to the Pezzullo intervention, to help the government among Labor branches and activists.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753gDH\">One interpretation is that the government was exercising leverage against the Americans. If you don\u2019t sell us a Virginia on schedule in 2032, we might kick you out of Perth. That is either implausible or it shows the government in an even more foolish light than we have yet imagined. If we don\u2019t get a Virginia in 2032, and as a result we kick the Americans out of Perth, we would then end up with neither our own subs nor the presence of allied subs, a result so wholly ridiculous and against our national interests it must be beyond even the compass of Albanese defence policy. Then again \u2026<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753uEC\">The AUKUS debate is mostly a clash of conflicting fantasies. Of course it will be great for Australia to have nuclear-powered subs. The real problem with AUKUS is that it\u2019s going to take so long and the government is doing almost nothing else in defence in the meantime. It\u2019s as though you were building a new rugby league team to enter the competition in 2032 and you recruited Bulldogs captain Stephen Crichton, the best player in the league, as your star player for the new club, but then forgot to add the other 12 members needed to make up a team.<\/p>\n<p id=\"U101789810753rXG\">One day Albanese government defence policy will be studied in universities around the world as the Platonic ideal of disastrous policymaking.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"author-content_image\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theaustralian.com.au\/author\/greg-sheridan\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"author-content_image_img\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/defence\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/greg_sheridan3.png\" width=\"64\" height=\"64\" alt=\"Greg Sheridan\"\/><\/a><a class=\"author-content_name g_font-title-s\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theaustralian.com.au\/author\/greg-sheridan\" data-tgev=\"event10\" data-tgev-metric=\"npv\" data-tgev-order=\"1\" data-tgev-label=\"Greg Sheridan\" data-tgev-container=\"author-all\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Greg Sheridan<\/a>Foreign Editor<\/p>\n<p class=\"g_font-body-s author-content_bio\">Greg Sheridan is The Australian&#8217;s foreign editor and one of the most influential national security and foreign affairs analysts in Australia. He also writes about Christianity and culture. His most recent book, How Christians Can Succeed Today, completes a trilogy on Christianity, including the best-selling God is Good for You. Active on TV, radio and as a conference speaker, he has interviewed presidents and prime ministers all over the world, travelling on assignment to every continent except the polar ice caps. A previous book, When We Were Young and Foolish, was an entertaining memoir of culture, politics and journalism. He has been the paper&#8217;s Washington correspondent, Beijing correspondent and as foreign editor travels widely, bringing readers unique behind the scenes insights.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"15 hours ago. Updated\u00a08 hours ago John Howard shrewdly observed that the immigration discussion is blighted by 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