You really need to care for trees after you plant them. My mother was always onto the council about the care their trees did or didn’t get. They planted a lot of young trees in the park next to where she lived then promptly strimmed them all to death.
I mean it is irresponsible don’t get me wrong .. but better that we start to head in the right direction?
2.2million still alive i guess is another way to look at it
China actually uses commercial scale tree plants to re-tree their cities.
In many T1 cities where the 2nd CBD looks new and the streets super wide and artificially laid out, the trees are suspiciously mature. That’s because they use commercial tree farms and plant mature and semi-mature trees. It takes a lot of skill and the Japanese are arguably the best at moving mature trees. The amount of work that it requires is boggling.
I think it’s relatively clear are planting them beside highways rather than places they would naturally grow.
The idea is that they serve a purpose of making the noise of cars travel less as well as fill a planning quota. In fact they die because the soil is poor and they are on embankments so don’t get enough water.
This happened with Cambridgeshire’s bypass. They just planted more and they died too.
It doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea to plant trees, it’s just a bad idea to make people who build highways do it because they don’t give a shit about trees.
We had a few new trees planted down the end of the road. They put little cages around them to protect them as they grew/keep them straight – but the cages have since been removed. One of the trees is snapped – either by the wind or kids. The other is leaning and will most likely not last much longer (especially if the winds picks up again)
I plant trees with a local voluntary group and droughts are definitely an issue – you will lose trees and you do have to survey the losses and replant.
The planting season is the winter, you have no idea what the next year’s weather will be. The newly planted trees are at their most vulnerable in the following summer so having a very hot dry summer will have done a lot of damage.
But if you have the land set aside and you have tree nurseries bringing new trees along its a setback rather than a disaster. The process of actually planting them out is only a relatively modest part of the whole thing.
Also if they have any sense they plant a little more densely than they really want the eventual forest so if you have a whole area suffer you have to replant but if you have 5% loss in a planted area you probably allowed for that in your initial planting.
Which is exactly why 3 are planted for every one cut down.
Non story.
And people will still vote, defend and support Reform UK, who denies climate change and wants to scrap Net Zero.
Embarrassing stuff.
It goes without saying that trees and plants in Britain won’t fare well under drought. We’re not a desert island, although climate change will intensify desertification effects across the globe.
Don’t say we haven’t been warned…
This is a headline written purely to bash the government. Anyone who has been involved with tree planting at scale will tell you that a significant proportion of them *will* die.
For some context, mass planting with little aftercare (I.e. letting nature take its course) can result in up to 70% of trees dying.
I plant ALOT of trees as part of my job. Seeing a mortality rate of 37.5% isnt ridiculously high. About 10-20% is normal, but a particularly hot and dry summer will play havoc. I think this is a non story.
Those are ok numbers. I have planted 1200 on a patch of “wasteland” i own. I would guestimate 700 made it to the next year. A hundred or so died the next. The remaining trees are doing well. I will apply for me this year.
Isn’t that the idea? I thought you were supposed to plant 3 trees for every 1 adult tree you want
You can transplant fungi alongside the tree and it’ll improve survivability apparently
I’m pretty sure that’s normal when planting forest etc. You plant three trees for every one you expect to survive to maturity.
Calderdale council has regularly cut down established trees with promises of planting 3/5x more trees in its stead. Apart from the fact the trees are poor quality, not properly installed (we get high winds and most trees never get enough support to thrive) and rarely survive.
Presumably it’s just a box ticking exercise so they can cut down trees to save on budgets for pruning etc.
Thats really not bad. You would expect some to not be viable. Its a much better success rate than pothole repairs lasting beyond 6 months.
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You really need to care for trees after you plant them. My mother was always onto the council about the care their trees did or didn’t get. They planted a lot of young trees in the park next to where she lived then promptly strimmed them all to death.
I mean it is irresponsible don’t get me wrong .. but better that we start to head in the right direction?
2.2million still alive i guess is another way to look at it
China actually uses commercial scale tree plants to re-tree their cities.
In many T1 cities where the 2nd CBD looks new and the streets super wide and artificially laid out, the trees are suspiciously mature. That’s because they use commercial tree farms and plant mature and semi-mature trees. It takes a lot of skill and the Japanese are arguably the best at moving mature trees. The amount of work that it requires is boggling.
I think it’s relatively clear are planting them beside highways rather than places they would naturally grow.
The idea is that they serve a purpose of making the noise of cars travel less as well as fill a planning quota. In fact they die because the soil is poor and they are on embankments so don’t get enough water.
This happened with Cambridgeshire’s bypass. They just planted more and they died too.
It doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea to plant trees, it’s just a bad idea to make people who build highways do it because they don’t give a shit about trees.
We had a few new trees planted down the end of the road. They put little cages around them to protect them as they grew/keep them straight – but the cages have since been removed. One of the trees is snapped – either by the wind or kids. The other is leaning and will most likely not last much longer (especially if the winds picks up again)
I plant trees with a local voluntary group and droughts are definitely an issue – you will lose trees and you do have to survey the losses and replant.
The planting season is the winter, you have no idea what the next year’s weather will be. The newly planted trees are at their most vulnerable in the following summer so having a very hot dry summer will have done a lot of damage.
But if you have the land set aside and you have tree nurseries bringing new trees along its a setback rather than a disaster. The process of actually planting them out is only a relatively modest part of the whole thing.
Also if they have any sense they plant a little more densely than they really want the eventual forest so if you have a whole area suffer you have to replant but if you have 5% loss in a planted area you probably allowed for that in your initial planting.
Which is exactly why 3 are planted for every one cut down.
Non story.
And people will still vote, defend and support Reform UK, who denies climate change and wants to scrap Net Zero.
Embarrassing stuff.
It goes without saying that trees and plants in Britain won’t fare well under drought. We’re not a desert island, although climate change will intensify desertification effects across the globe.
Don’t say we haven’t been warned…
This is a headline written purely to bash the government. Anyone who has been involved with tree planting at scale will tell you that a significant proportion of them *will* die.
For some context, mass planting with little aftercare (I.e. letting nature take its course) can result in up to 70% of trees dying.
I plant ALOT of trees as part of my job. Seeing a mortality rate of 37.5% isnt ridiculously high. About 10-20% is normal, but a particularly hot and dry summer will play havoc. I think this is a non story.
Those are ok numbers. I have planted 1200 on a patch of “wasteland” i own. I would guestimate 700 made it to the next year. A hundred or so died the next. The remaining trees are doing well. I will apply for me this year.
Isn’t that the idea? I thought you were supposed to plant 3 trees for every 1 adult tree you want
You can transplant fungi alongside the tree and it’ll improve survivability apparently
I’m pretty sure that’s normal when planting forest etc. You plant three trees for every one you expect to survive to maturity.
Calderdale council has regularly cut down established trees with promises of planting 3/5x more trees in its stead. Apart from the fact the trees are poor quality, not properly installed (we get high winds and most trees never get enough support to thrive) and rarely survive.
Presumably it’s just a box ticking exercise so they can cut down trees to save on budgets for pruning etc.
Thats really not bad. You would expect some to not be viable. Its a much better success rate than pothole repairs lasting beyond 6 months.