No need to ‘dream’, just continue on the path that Europe is already on and independence will inevitably be the result. It’s not reality yet, but it will be in not so distant future.
Rutte needs to say these things I guess, even if he’s been overdoing the sycophancy routine for “daddy” Trump a bit. Oh well, as long as it buys Europe the time that it needs I couldn’t care less.
It won’t stick.
In the short term he is correct, although he could have said it differently and with less sycomhancy toward trump especially given what the latter thinks about NATO and its role.
Hopefully we will eventually be able to decouple enough in time though, especially if we turn all the recent ‘realizations’ into action, but this is going to take years, if not decades, we should have started working on more strategic independence during Trump first mandate, or even earlier, perhaps during the annexation of Crimea or during the arab spring, but alas…
En terecht! Onnozele flapdrol..
Europe should not dream about anything, but start rolling up its sleeves and taking action to solve problems.
and as long as people like him and a few other Europeans are in high positions, who only talk, Europe will never get to the point where anyone takes it seriously.
Rutte has been very sloopy in his communication. He should be removed ASAPĀ
Pathetic lipservice to please Trump.
This guy is such an embarassment.
We have nukes, carriers and a decent enough army that the USA certainly won’t invade unless they are ready to pay a horrible blood price. I’m pretty sure the USA won’t move a finger if we start a real war with Russia, too. So, what’s left ? The USA can destroy the world 150 times, we can only do it 5 but spoiler, once is enough.
>!Definitely not what she said!<
Iām guessing he was referring to nuclear defense and deterrence. The Europeans can fight, no doubt about that. Poo Poo does NOT want a conventional fight with Europe.
The kissing of the ring (ass) of the current occupant of the White House is a sure path toward being steam rolled by US policy. The EU should be acting as if theyāre dealing with Putin when dealing with Trump because the reality is that theyāre basically the same person, however Trump remains (for now) somewhat constrained by the US Constitution.
honestly the phrasing just sounds like reverse-psychology encouraging, so keep yapping
He will soon face Whiplash and Spank, idiot Secretary General.
It is time for Rute to go away… He looks like american and not european.
Letās just show him wrong then.
This is exactly what Rutte needs to do, it buys us time. He knows this, Stoltenberg knew this too. As degrading as this is for him, Europe is not strong enough to have an adversary like the US yet.Ā
>Without U.S. support, European nations would be required to massively ramp up their defense spending to 10% of their GDP. NATO allies pledged to spend 5% of their GDP on defense last year on defense by 2035. Likewise, Europe would be forced to spend billions of dollars to create a new nuclear deterrent, absent the U.S.
>”In that scenario, you will lose the ultimate guarantor of our freedom, which is the U.S. nuclear umbrella. So hey, good luck,” Rutte said.
We’re all riding a big wave of national pride and righteous indignation.
Rutte is a slimy fucker, but what exactly is he or Zelensky for that matter wrong about, ffs we’re not even able to help Ukrain four years after the russian began fucking them over.
It will take sacrifice and commitment to gain our independence.
Pretending we can win with speeches and pride alone is like pissing yourself to stay warm, it only works for a second and then they call HR, again.
If anyone was in any doubt where his loyalty is
Get rid of this Trump puppet.
It’s his actual job to spit crap like this. Remember, there’s a rotten orange turd across the pond. Right now that orange blob is his only friend, his best friend. Probably his bestet friend ever.
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He needs a new job.
No need to ‘dream’, just continue on the path that Europe is already on and independence will inevitably be the result. It’s not reality yet, but it will be in not so distant future.
Rutte needs to say these things I guess, even if he’s been overdoing the sycophancy routine for “daddy” Trump a bit. Oh well, as long as it buys Europe the time that it needs I couldn’t care less.
It won’t stick.
In the short term he is correct, although he could have said it differently and with less sycomhancy toward trump especially given what the latter thinks about NATO and its role.
Hopefully we will eventually be able to decouple enough in time though, especially if we turn all the recent ‘realizations’ into action, but this is going to take years, if not decades, we should have started working on more strategic independence during Trump first mandate, or even earlier, perhaps during the annexation of Crimea or during the arab spring, but alas…
En terecht! Onnozele flapdrol..
Europe should not dream about anything, but start rolling up its sleeves and taking action to solve problems.
and as long as people like him and a few other Europeans are in high positions, who only talk, Europe will never get to the point where anyone takes it seriously.
Rutte has been very sloopy in his communication. He should be removed ASAPĀ
Pathetic lipservice to please Trump.
This guy is such an embarassment.
We have nukes, carriers and a decent enough army that the USA certainly won’t invade unless they are ready to pay a horrible blood price. I’m pretty sure the USA won’t move a finger if we start a real war with Russia, too. So, what’s left ? The USA can destroy the world 150 times, we can only do it 5 but spoiler, once is enough.
>!Definitely not what she said!<
Iām guessing he was referring to nuclear defense and deterrence. The Europeans can fight, no doubt about that. Poo Poo does NOT want a conventional fight with Europe.
The kissing of the ring (ass) of the current occupant of the White House is a sure path toward being steam rolled by US policy. The EU should be acting as if theyāre dealing with Putin when dealing with Trump because the reality is that theyāre basically the same person, however Trump remains (for now) somewhat constrained by the US Constitution.
honestly the phrasing just sounds like reverse-psychology encouraging, so keep yapping
He will soon face Whiplash and Spank, idiot Secretary General.
It is time for Rute to go away… He looks like american and not european.
Letās just show him wrong then.
This is exactly what Rutte needs to do, it buys us time. He knows this, Stoltenberg knew this too. As degrading as this is for him, Europe is not strong enough to have an adversary like the US yet.Ā
>Without U.S. support, European nations would be required to massively ramp up their defense spending to 10% of their GDP. NATO allies pledged to spend 5% of their GDP on defense last year on defense by 2035. Likewise, Europe would be forced to spend billions of dollars to create a new nuclear deterrent, absent the U.S.
>”In that scenario, you will lose the ultimate guarantor of our freedom, which is the U.S. nuclear umbrella. So hey, good luck,” Rutte said.
We’re all riding a big wave of national pride and righteous indignation.
Rutte is a slimy fucker, but what exactly is he or Zelensky for that matter wrong about, ffs we’re not even able to help Ukrain four years after the russian began fucking them over.
It will take sacrifice and commitment to gain our independence.
Pretending we can win with speeches and pride alone is like pissing yourself to stay warm, it only works for a second and then they call HR, again.
If anyone was in any doubt where his loyalty is
Get rid of this Trump puppet.
It’s his actual job to spit crap like this. Remember, there’s a rotten orange turd across the pond. Right now that orange blob is his only friend, his best friend. Probably his bestet friend ever.
Until it isn’t.