They really don’t like the EU supporting Ukraine against Russia.
It’s a perfect meeting of the support for Russia within Sinn Fein, and their pivot to a harder stance against refugees in the last couple of years. Their days of “Refugees Welcome” is long gone.
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what a hill to die on
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then its a duck. A Russian Duck
Don’t like them anymore after they said it was okay to kill foxes.
You’d wonder about SF sometimes. Sounds like they’re beginning to pivot to nationalism in the more continental European sense of the word.
What I am shocked that a party who has campaigned against us joining the EU, every EU treaty, who only became slightly warmer to the EU because unionists campaigned for Brexit, would be against the EU helping Ukraine.
I see they are taking their line now directly from the far right. “What about the pensioners, what about Irish people”.
As bad as FFG are at least they seem to want to keep us in the EU and haven’t had to delete decades of pro Russian sentiment from their websites.
I wonder how this will go down at Marylous next fund-raiser in the states. Although they are taking the same line towards Russia as MAGA are..
what a bad take, are they on ‘lets blame immigrants wagon’ now?
How about blaming the electricity companies for overcharging us? the landlords robbing us?
The irony of Sinn Féin, of all parties, not wanting to support a country that is fighting for its independence and identity against a colonial, imperial neighbour, is unbelievable. They’ve turned into Fianna Fáil so gradually I didn’t even notice!
> “At a time when families in Ireland are crippled by the cost-of-living crisis and after a budget that gave ordinary workers nothing, this Government are proposing that billions of euro are given to Ukraine for weapons of war”
What exactly are people’s argument against this? Are we supposed to believe that any amount of money will change the inevitable outcome of the war. Especially considering how dirty things have got with money.
If Putin could pick a major irish party to lead the next government he’d 100% chose Sinn Fein. Obviously im not including the PBP in the major party category.
SF’s policy is 100% based on whats populist. They have no morals, policies or ideals other than the north. They would be a massive party now if it wasn’t for Mary Lou and Pearse.
Only 24% of the Irish public (or 10% if we look at financial support to Ukraine) support Sinn Fein’s position on this.
If SF ever want to be a serious contender for government instead of the perennial ‘vote for change’ party, they need to actually develop their political philosophy beyond being anti whatever-FFG-are-doing. They’ve got some serious political minds scattered over both sides of the border, but the Republic’s operation has attracted some absolute dopes over the wilderness years that need to be shown the door.
Mary Lou is as slick as they come, but she can’t see beyond the fight; she has no long term vision. Under her, SF have shouldered their way to the top of the heap of opposition parties and have eaten Labour alive – but she’s can’t drop the mentality of trying to grab votes from every shitty issue that passes by. She’s a wartime consigliere, not a statesman.
SF need to sit down and hammer out a foreign policy that isn’t some ephemeral nationalist far-right-meets-far-left bullshit that just works on Facebook. I want a government that I can depend on to not say something fucking stupid to the Americans; who can work with all comers within the EU and are happy to do so; who are serious people that can be relied upon even when there aren’t votes in it. SF’s current front bench ain’t that.
Whoever thinks this is a war between the good guys (US+ EU+Ukraine lol) and Evil Russia(partly true) is very naive and should check the Azov Brigdes. Here’s a photo for you
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They really don’t like the EU supporting Ukraine against Russia.
It’s a perfect meeting of the support for Russia within Sinn Fein, and their pivot to a harder stance against refugees in the last couple of years. Their days of “Refugees Welcome” is long gone.
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what a hill to die on
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then its a duck. A Russian Duck
Don’t like them anymore after they said it was okay to kill foxes.
You’d wonder about SF sometimes. Sounds like they’re beginning to pivot to nationalism in the more continental European sense of the word.
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Comments are full of this lol
What I am shocked that a party who has campaigned against us joining the EU, every EU treaty, who only became slightly warmer to the EU because unionists campaigned for Brexit, would be against the EU helping Ukraine.
I see they are taking their line now directly from the far right. “What about the pensioners, what about Irish people”.
As bad as FFG are at least they seem to want to keep us in the EU and haven’t had to delete decades of pro Russian sentiment from their websites.
I wonder how this will go down at Marylous next fund-raiser in the states. Although they are taking the same line towards Russia as MAGA are..
what a bad take, are they on ‘lets blame immigrants wagon’ now?
How about blaming the electricity companies for overcharging us? the landlords robbing us?
The irony of Sinn Féin, of all parties, not wanting to support a country that is fighting for its independence and identity against a colonial, imperial neighbour, is unbelievable. They’ve turned into Fianna Fáil so gradually I didn’t even notice!
> “At a time when families in Ireland are crippled by the cost-of-living crisis and after a budget that gave ordinary workers nothing, this Government are proposing that billions of euro are given to Ukraine for weapons of war”
What exactly are people’s argument against this? Are we supposed to believe that any amount of money will change the inevitable outcome of the war. Especially considering how dirty things have got with money.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiys-man-all-seasons-ensnared-corruption-probe-2025-11-28/
If Putin could pick a major irish party to lead the next government he’d 100% chose Sinn Fein. Obviously im not including the PBP in the major party category.
SF’s policy is 100% based on whats populist. They have no morals, policies or ideals other than the north. They would be a massive party now if it wasn’t for Mary Lou and Pearse.
https://preview.redd.it/qbaz5g7zuahg1.jpeg?width=818&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a00c692e3e70d04b67aaeadf98caa129b1b5e10d
Only 24% of the Irish public (or 10% if we look at financial support to Ukraine) support Sinn Fein’s position on this.
If SF ever want to be a serious contender for government instead of the perennial ‘vote for change’ party, they need to actually develop their political philosophy beyond being anti whatever-FFG-are-doing. They’ve got some serious political minds scattered over both sides of the border, but the Republic’s operation has attracted some absolute dopes over the wilderness years that need to be shown the door.
Mary Lou is as slick as they come, but she can’t see beyond the fight; she has no long term vision. Under her, SF have shouldered their way to the top of the heap of opposition parties and have eaten Labour alive – but she’s can’t drop the mentality of trying to grab votes from every shitty issue that passes by. She’s a wartime consigliere, not a statesman.
SF need to sit down and hammer out a foreign policy that isn’t some ephemeral nationalist far-right-meets-far-left bullshit that just works on Facebook. I want a government that I can depend on to not say something fucking stupid to the Americans; who can work with all comers within the EU and are happy to do so; who are serious people that can be relied upon even when there aren’t votes in it. SF’s current front bench ain’t that.
Whoever thinks this is a war between the good guys (US+ EU+Ukraine lol) and Evil Russia(partly true) is very naive and should check the Azov Brigdes. Here’s a photo for you
https://preview.redd.it/pvprelxexahg1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e09477c1d6bcedf8db3aef49ee3b7e43c2a92013
It’s more of an Anti Militarism, Anti NATO stance
The only upside of the invasion of Ukr, was that it instantly stopped the covid pandemic, almost overnight.
What’s the government say? Okay let’s say the opposite.
That seems to be SF’s whole strategy!
So in summary of their view:
Armed resistance of imperialism in Ireland: Good
Armed resistance of imperialism in Ukraine: Bad
🤔