Even Estonians now pushing for a Federal Europe 🇪🇺
Absolute nothing burger.
Wait until the Italians and French find out what that means for their spending habits.
The current situation in the world provides an opportunity to accomplish many good things; both between EU members and within the EU framework. But EU federalists are overplaying their hand if they think this means their pet project has any more chance of happening than it did 15 years ago.
Would there be a historical event that reflects a similar voluntary hand over of national sovereignty? Can it be compared to when Germany united in the 1800’s? I see no prejudice in history so have hard time assessing how it would work.
A lot of the ideas are quite reasonable.
But let’s not kid ourselves: countries with small populations will simply dissolve into a unified Europe, with their regional languages and cultures disappearing over a few generations.
The proposed senator system isn’t perfect either- it would still allow vetoes to be overridden (say, by a two- thirds majority).
And by the way, in such a unified Europe, questions would inevitably arise: why should Estonia get some form of autonomy and its own senator, but not, say, Catalonia or Bavaria?
Many issues could be resolved without resorting to the kind of deep federalization described in the article.
For example, a lot has been written about a unified European army- supposedly impossible to create.
But just in the last three months, I’ve come across several articles proposing a sensible workaround: keep national armies for EU members (even if some of them are barely larger than a military band plus a honor guard company), and create a European Legion -essentially a PMC under the European Security Council, with around 100,000 trained troops.
That would be enough to hold off a ground invasion by, say, Russia, until national armies are fully mobilized, and even somewhat excessive for supporting EU interests abroad.
The article reads like a candy in a shiny wrapper from a commercial aid: the wrapper looks great, but whether the candy itself is any good- who knows.
Yeah, no. I don’t know what it is with Redditors and the craze for unionism.
No, thank you. I value my culture.
Who wants to federalise: o/ o/ o/ o/
Who wants the downside of federalising: o o o o
If the uk and ireland joined a federal euope. It would either be a British Isles voice or an English voice as thr small nations are provinces like braveria or yorkshire. An interesting idea. But like in america there’s series of issues of course. London would be a bigger voice than many nations in europe. Maybe thats ok from a democratic point of view
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Strength comes with unity.
No one or thing is stronger alone….
Even Estonians now pushing for a Federal Europe 🇪🇺
Absolute nothing burger.
Wait until the Italians and French find out what that means for their spending habits.
The current situation in the world provides an opportunity to accomplish many good things; both between EU members and within the EU framework. But EU federalists are overplaying their hand if they think this means their pet project has any more chance of happening than it did 15 years ago.
Would there be a historical event that reflects a similar voluntary hand over of national sovereignty? Can it be compared to when Germany united in the 1800’s? I see no prejudice in history so have hard time assessing how it would work.
A lot of the ideas are quite reasonable.
But let’s not kid ourselves: countries with small populations will simply dissolve into a unified Europe, with their regional languages and cultures disappearing over a few generations.
The proposed senator system isn’t perfect either- it would still allow vetoes to be overridden (say, by a two- thirds majority).
And by the way, in such a unified Europe, questions would inevitably arise: why should Estonia get some form of autonomy and its own senator, but not, say, Catalonia or Bavaria?
Many issues could be resolved without resorting to the kind of deep federalization described in the article.
For example, a lot has been written about a unified European army- supposedly impossible to create.
But just in the last three months, I’ve come across several articles proposing a sensible workaround: keep national armies for EU members (even if some of them are barely larger than a military band plus a honor guard company), and create a European Legion -essentially a PMC under the European Security Council, with around 100,000 trained troops.
That would be enough to hold off a ground invasion by, say, Russia, until national armies are fully mobilized, and even somewhat excessive for supporting EU interests abroad.
The article reads like a candy in a shiny wrapper from a commercial aid: the wrapper looks great, but whether the candy itself is any good- who knows.
Yeah, no. I don’t know what it is with Redditors and the craze for unionism.
No, thank you. I value my culture.
Who wants to federalise: o/ o/ o/ o/
Who wants the downside of federalising: o o o o
If the uk and ireland joined a federal euope. It would either be a British Isles voice or an English voice as thr small nations are provinces like braveria or yorkshire. An interesting idea. But like in america there’s series of issues of course. London would be a bigger voice than many nations in europe. Maybe thats ok from a democratic point of view