When Bulgarians took Thrace, did the kill all the Thracians or were there survivors who escaped?

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Palaeohelladites

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  2. There were no Thracians anymore, there were only Roman citizens. But many had died in plagues and invasions which allowed the Slavs to migrate into the Balkans. Large swathes of land were probably desolate.

  3. By the time Bulgarians got to thrace the thratian race had almost gone extinct. The region was primarily inhabited by slavs and byzantines by the time Asparuh came.

  4. The Thracians were assimilated by the Romans first, whatever was left of them, was gradually absorbed by the Bulgar and Slavic tribes after the Bulgarian country was formed. There was no Thracian extermination.

  5. When the Bulgars arrived south of the Danube, there was a population of Slavic tribes. It is considered that what was left of the Thracians was dissolved into the Slavic tribes, along with some Greek blood.

    Don’t listen to idiots who claim that the Bulgars were Thracians. Contemporary sources clearly describe Bulgars and we have clear depictions of Thracians and they are nothing alike.

  6. Did the Neanderthals all die, or we fucked and now they are part of us?

  8. When the Roman Empire Conquered The balkans, most of the balkans were Helenized, so the thracians started speaking Greek (and Latin)
    after the fall of the Roman Empire, Thrace was In the hands of Byzantine, speaking greek

    after that the Slavs came and many of them begin living in the Thracian lands

    after that the Bulgars came and took control over lands full with Slavs and Helenized thracians

    During the first Bulgarian kingdom all Slavs, Thracians and the Bulgars mixed, and created the Bulgarian ethnicity, they were all asimilated under the Slavic language of the Slavs in the Kingdom

  9. Thracians had already been largely romanized by the time the Slavic tribes settled the Balkans. I’m sure aspects of their culture survived as the Roman empire was multicultural to some degree and then over time the remnants of that culture melded with Slavic and Greco-Byzantine culture and so on and so on.

  11. They took off with the Goturk Space ships, because clearly a multi-ethnic kingdom established on mutual cooperation with the locals doesn’t sit right with the Middle Eastern customs that refuse to accept any reality outside of “sacred” ehtnic-driven slavery, and full scale ethnic purges.

  12. I actually recently read quite an in-depth book on the first Bulgarian tsardom from its very foundation. The thracians had long been assimilated into the Roman Empire, becoming what would be called either just Greek (Greek speaking) or vlach (Latin speaking to the north of the Balkan mountains). At the time the Slavs came to the Balkans, they did not replace the original Roman citizens and we actually don’t have so much shared DNA with the Slavic countries to the north. They assimilated the former Roman citizens in the Balkans in the regions where Roman rule had already been basically non-existent, because their more „primitive“ way of life was more suited for survival in this environment. The Bulgars, coming from Asia, have almost negligible contributions to the Genetic pool, but with their arrival they became the ruling minority and united the region in the country we know as Bulgaria. When Slavic was chosen to be the official language of the country at the time of its Christianisation, this further promoted the assimilation of the different peoples into what we nowadays call Bulgarian, just like the Roman Empire had once turned them into Latin or Greek speaking Romans. So, basically, we are the Thracians.

  13. If you’re talking about when Bulgaria was first founded (on the Balkans, at least), then the Thracians were long gone as a culture by that point. So no, I’m pretty sure we didn’t “kill them”. They and the Ancient Greeks were conquered by the Roman empire for centuries, then it split and here it became the Byzantine Empire, which was Orthodox Christian, so whatever was left of any pagan Thracian or Greek cultures was gone for good by the time Slavs and Bulgars arrived.

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