{"id":102409,"date":"2025-10-04T07:27:09","date_gmt":"2025-10-04T07:27:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/102409\/"},"modified":"2025-10-04T07:27:09","modified_gmt":"2025-10-04T07:27:09","slug":"nobody-can-tell-you-when-to-pull-the-trigger-or-not-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/102409\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Nobody can tell you when to pull the trigger or not\u2019 \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">It may be almost 50km from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/dublin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/dublin\/\">Dublin\u2019s<\/a> south inner city to Delgany, Co <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wicklow\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wicklow\/\">Wicklow<\/a>, but the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/garda-siochana\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/garda-siochana\/\">Garda<\/a> Armed Support Unit\u2019s (ASU) Audi Q7 Quattro makes light work of the journey. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The vehicle can travel at speeds of up to 250km\/h and the vehicle\u2019s blue lights and sirens ensure a path is cleared through the traffic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">A report has come in over the radio of a powerful machine-gun-type <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/crime-law\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/crime-law\/\">firearm<\/a> being transferred from one vehicle to another. Local garda\u00ed have traced the owner of one of the cars to an address in Delgany. The ASU is alerted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Garda\u00ed are keeping eyes on the house but, because of fears the occupant has a powerful firearm, it\u2019s a job for the armed members of the ASU.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Two members arrive at the address and immediately get to work. They are each armed with a Heckler &amp; Koch MP7 submachine gun \u2013 also used by the State\u2019s Army Ranger Wing and the British army\u2019s SAS \u2013 and a Sig Sauer 9mm pistol. They also carry a range of less than lethal options, from a Taser stun gun to rounds loaded with pepper spray and rubber-bullet-type rounds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">On Wednesday night in Delgany there is no need for the ASU\u2019s capacity for force, either lethal or less than lethal. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The eastern European man who answers the door to the ASU is initially surprised to see them, but then tells them: \u201cI think I know what this is about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">He takes them to the gun, stored neatly in a case, and explains it\u2019s not a real firearm. The two ASU members, both of sergeant rank, are inclined to agree after examining the item. However, they take his details and take away the \u201cgun\u201d for ballistic testing. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">On the same night, the Dublin ASU responds to an alert about young men spotted with knives around O\u2019Connell Bridge in the city centre. \u201cThere\u2019s sometimes organised fights between these groups \u2013 it may have been that,\u201d says one of the ASU members. By the time the unit arrives at the scene, the youths have dispersed.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Dublin ASU members practise a door breaching during their shift. Photograph: Chris Maddaloni\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/LXSBBPUWQJEQZI76UNBO5HHSLU.JPG\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>Dublin ASU members practise a door breaching during their shift. Photograph: Chris Maddaloni <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The unit also has intelligence of a drug-related abduction in Finglas, north Dublin, apparently over an unpaid drug debt. The intelligence is not concrete, but the ASU is on red alert to watch the situation and to be ready to respond if local garda\u00ed need assistance in a hurry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The Irish Times joins the Dublin ASU on patrol for two nights, the first media outlet ever to accompany the Garda\u2019s team of armed officers. Based in the old Kevin Street Garda station near the city centre, the Dublin ASU shares offices with the Garda Emergency Response Unit and a National Negotiations Unit. The gleaming new modern Kevin Street Garda station is next door, dwarfing their building. Most members seem to like being just outside conventional day-to-day policing. They operate as a tightly bonded unit given the nature of their work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Accompanied by The Irish Times, the Dublin ASU members cross the city repeatedly over the course of their shifts, driving into industrial estates, housing schemes and halting sites. Two major transport hubs, Dublin Port and Dublin Airport, also fall under the Dublin ASU\u2019s remit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Among the call-outs received over the two nights spent on patrol with the ASU is one relating to an incident about a man armed with a knife who is acting aggressively at a Dublin supermarket. In a separate call, another man, who locals suspect may be armed, is reportedly behaving threateningly on a village street in west Dublin. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The Dublin ASU has been patrolling the streets of the capital for almost a decade. It commenced operations in 2016, just after the outbreak of the Kinahan-Hutch feud. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWe were fast-tracked as a result of the feud,\u201d says one of the Dublin ASU members who is now approaching a decade in the unit. \u201cThat first year, there was an awful lot of firearms incidents we were attending. We were in close proximity to a lot of stuff that happened.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"A Dublin ASU member on patrol. 'We work together, socialise together, work out together.' Photograph: Chris Maddaloni\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/627X7DKQNJEBRJUT5NFXJXQ5RM.JPG\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>A Dublin ASU member on patrol. &#8216;We work together, socialise together, work out together.&#8217; Photograph: Chris Maddaloni <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cNow it\u2019s more so possession of knives than so-called gangland hits. There still are those [gun-related] incidents, but not to the same extent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">ASUs deploy from 12 centres across the four Garda regions: Dublin Metropolitan Region, Eastern Region, Southern Region and Northwestern Region. There are up to 300 members throughout the State at any one time. The Dublin ASU is comprised of four 15-strong teams who work over 12-hour shifts, 365 days of the year. There is just one woman member of the Dublin ASU.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">In 2023, the ASUs across the State were called to 2,056 incidents, with the Dublin ASU the busiest. It was called to 446 spontaneous armed emergencies \u2013 those reported via calls to 999 \u2013 as well as nine hostage or \u201cbarricade\u201d incidents and 112 pre-planned deployments.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It is called in to any incident involving the presence \u2013 suspected or confirmed \u2013 of a bladed weapon or firearm, meaning its members are present at every high-profile, critical incident in Dublin.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">ASU members were, for example, first at the scene when a teenager was stabbed up to 20 times outside a pub on Eden Quay in Dublin\u2019s north inner city one weekend night last month. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Last Monday they were also on scene when the remains of the O\u2019Connors \u2013 Mark (54) and Louise (56) and their son Evan (27) \u2013 were <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/crime-law\/2025\/09\/30\/oconnor-family-killings-shocking-to-think-three-of-them-are-gone-like-that\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/crime-law\/2025\/09\/30\/oconnor-family-killings-shocking-to-think-three-of-them-are-gone-like-that\/\">found at the family home in Drumgowna, Co Louth<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">In February 2022, nine addresses were raided by garda\u00ed targeting a drugs gang, with access to powerful firearms, led by volatile gangland criminal Glen Ward (31). He is known as Mr Flashy and led the so-called \u201cGucci Gang\u201d. He has since been jailed for five-and-a-half years for possessing a military-grade firearm.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It was the ASU that broke down his door on the morning and provided local garda\u00ed and other Garda units with the armed presence that ensured none of the targets took on the guards. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Some of the houses were designed to ensure tens of thousands of euros in cash, as well as drugs and guns, were secure. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The fortified doors, bulletproof glass and CCTV systems were also designed to keep out the Garda or, at least, give those inside more time to dispose of any evidence, often down a toilet, during a Garda raid.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">ASU members use force, if required, in containing a situation or subduing a target, often in support of unarmed uniform garda\u00ed and armed detectives. This can include shooting an individual \u2013 known as \u201clethal force\u201d \u2013 which can prove fatal. Though Garda members rarely fatally shoot people during incidents, it is far from unheard of.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/life-style\/people\/2024\/03\/15\/inside-the-garda-armed-support-unit-you-see-things-no-one-should-ever-see-shootings-murders-and-stabbings\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Inside the Garda Armed Support Unit: \u2018You see things no one should ever see \u2013 shootings, murders and stabbings\u2019Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">In December 2020, George Nkencho (27) was fatally shot by an ASU member in the front garden of his family\u2019s home in Clonee, Dublin 15, after a dispute during which he was armed with a kitchen knife. Tasers and pepper spray were used in an initial, unsuccessful bid to subdue him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">His death was investigated by the Garda S\u00edoch\u00e1na Ombudsman Commission &#8211; now known as Fiosr\u00fa, the Office of the Police Ombudsman &#8211; which concluded that there was no case for the Garda members to answer. Last year, after a Gsoc investigation into the incident, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/crime-law\/courts\/2024\/10\/08\/george-nkencho-death-family-still-await-outcome-of-appeal-over-decision-not-to-prosecute\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/crime-law\/courts\/2024\/10\/08\/george-nkencho-death-family-still-await-outcome-of-appeal-over-decision-not-to-prosecute\/\">the Director of Public Prosecutions decided it would not seek a prosecution<\/a>. More detail about what occurred on the day will emerge during an inquest planned for next January.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cLethal is the last &#8230; last, last, last resort,\u201d one of the Dublin ASU members says. \u201cBut, saying that, we know if it\u2019s required, well then that\u2019s our job. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt has to be risk assessed and it can be dynamic. Things change so quickly &#8230; it could go from zero to 100 in an instant. And back again, maybe.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Members of the team do not want to be named. As a group they are vehemently against it. Some are very surprised the media had been granted permission to patrol with them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cI don\u2019t even want my son going into school saying: \u2018My dad is a guard\u2019,\u201d says one. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Another says he would never tell people about his role in the ASU.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cI\u2019m just \u2018a guard based in town\u2019; that\u2019s all I say. We are at all the critical incidents \u2013 you don\u2019t want to advertise that. You also don\u2019t want people constantly asking you: \u2018What happened there\u2019?\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Others speak of high-profile incidents in the past, including gangland criminals being injured or even fatally shot by garda\u00ed. <\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"ASU member\" class=\"c-stack b-it-article-body__pullquote\" data-style-direction=\"vertical\" data-style-justification=\"start\" data-style-alignment=\"unset\" data-style-inline=\"false\" data-style-wrap=\"nowrap\">\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Everybody has moments where they\u2019re saying to themselves: \u2018Right, what way is this going to go?\u2019 But you can\u2019t let that paralyse you<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 \u00a0ASU member<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe members involved would be under fierce pressure trying to make sure their name didn\u2019t come out publicly,\u201d says one ASU member.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">That concern is heightened now, perhaps more so than ever, because of social media and the ease with which a garda\u2019s name can be spread \u2013 accurately or not \u2013 in connection with a contentious incident.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For the firearms part of their training they are tested \u201cin terms of shooting at a target but also in terms of \u2018can you handle this\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cBut at the end of the day, on a job, it\u2019s down to you &#8230; nobody can tell you in that moment to pull the trigger or not pull it,\u201d says one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">There is a big emphasis on learning how to de-escalate incidents by engaging with people. Drawing a weapon is \u201cfar from a first option\u201d, says one member.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">But what about the fear of never being certain what\u2019s behind a door?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cFear is good, maybe. It\u2019s going to keep you alive,\u201d says one member. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cEverybody has moments where they\u2019re saying to themselves: \u2018Right, what way is this going to go?\u2019 But you can\u2019t let that paralyse you. It\u2019s only afterwards that you think to yourself: \u2018Oh, that could have gone wrong\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/opinion\/2025\/09\/01\/elaine-byrne-commissioner-justin-kelly-will-have-to-tackle-myth-that-gardai-are-immune-to-consequences\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Garda Commissioner Justin Kelly will have to tackle myth that garda\u00ed are immune to consequencesOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Positions on ASUs across the State are highly coveted roles, with hundreds applying every time, even when a small number of posts become vacant. At least five years\u2019 service in the Garda is required before candidates can even apply.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">A fitness test is followed by interviews, where the main criterion appears to be whether the applicant is suitable for a team. If the first two stages are passed, candidates undergo basic medical checks. And even when those first three stages are complete, many candidates don\u2019t make the cut. Then the most challenging part of the recruitment process begins.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">A two-day evaluation, by the Garda Training Unit, tests physical abilities, decision making, team work and firearms handling, though not with live ammunition. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">For those who make it through \u2013 and many don\u2019t \u2013 a 13-week predeployment takes place, including long stints of firearms training with live ammunition. There is also emergency-responder first-aid training, advanced driving skills and tactical training, including entering buildings with force and clearing them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cSome people try this and they\u2019ll end up saying: \u2018No, this is not for me\u2019,\u201d says one member. \u201cAnd slowly but surely lads are culled and weeded away.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Another member recalls his own training, saying the \u201cpsychological aspect is the hardest\u201d as instructors pushed them to their limits, akin to elite military training, trying to crack them mentally.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The Dublin ASU does not have a high turnover of members. Once members have secured their places they become part of a very tight-knit team. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWe work together, socialise together, work out together,\u201d says one member. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Members of the team say their families react differently to their roles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cMy wife never asks me anything about the job, and I mean nothing, ever,\u201d he says, though he adds she was supportive of him joining the unit. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Another says his wife was also a garda, which was beneficial, especially after stressful incidents when \u201cI can talk to her\u201d without causing undue concern.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Another explains that he limits what he tells his family as it is important to \u201cbalance\u201d the level of worry at home. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">One of his colleagues says he is mindful that his decision to join was perhaps \u201ca selfish thing\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cGetting into this unit was something I always wanted \u2013 and this is my career,\u201d he says. \u201cBut my partner has always been very supportive; she knows this is what I wanted.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">An increased number of knife-related incidents is not the only trend ASU members have been seeing in recent years. They have been dealing with what they see as a larger number of cases arising from acute mental illness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The ASU teams also have a good sense of trouble spots around the capital, given their work and where they patrol. They say feuds involving shots being fired between rival groups, with some recent non-fatal woundings, are regularly bubbling away in Ronanstown and Blanchardstown, west Dublin, in Tallaght, southwest Dublin, and in Finglas in north Dublin. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">On its patrol, the ASU team travels into these areas, passing the homes of well-known gang leaders, young and old.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Passing one house in west Dublin, a young man suspected of a recent gangland shooting can be seen peeping out a window. He thinks he hasn\u2019t been spotted as he watches the ASU members watching him. But they have seen him. They note his presence, discuss him for a short while, and then move on, to a halting site in Finglas. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">And on it goes for the armed unit over the course of the shift, patrolling the city and its suburbs into the night and working off the latest intelligence on flashpoint areas across Dublin.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cIt\u2019s the hot zone,\u201d says one ASU member of his workplace as he rearranges his submachine gun and pistol, listening to the crackle of the Garda radio, ready to respond.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It may be almost 50km from Dublin\u2019s south inner city to Delgany, Co Wicklow, but the Garda Armed&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":102410,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[9,10,52,18,13,14,8030,6,19,17,11,12,15,16,5,7,8],"class_list":{"0":"post-102409","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-headlines","8":"tag-breaking-news","9":"tag-breakingnews","10":"tag-dublin","11":"tag-eire","12":"tag-featured-news","13":"tag-featurednews","14":"tag-garda-siochana","15":"tag-headlines","16":"tag-ie","17":"tag-ireland","18":"tag-latest-news","19":"tag-latestnews","20":"tag-main-news","21":"tag-mainnews","22":"tag-news","23":"tag-top-stories","24":"tag-topstories"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102409","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=102409"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102409\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/102410"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=102409"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=102409"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=102409"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}