{"id":110939,"date":"2025-10-09T10:43:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-09T10:43:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/110939\/"},"modified":"2025-10-09T10:43:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-09T10:43:08","slug":"new-study-says-water-in-venus-clouds-surprisingly-abundant","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/110939\/","title":{"rendered":"New study says water in Venus\u2019 clouds surprisingly abundant"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Pioneer-Venus-2-Large-Probe-Small-Probes-Venus-artist-illustration-1978.jpg\" alt=\"Water in Venus' clouds: 1 large and 4 small spacecraft approaching a planet with swirling clouds.\" width=\"800\" height=\"632\" class=\"size-full wp-image-524003\"  \/><a href=\"https:\/\/assets.science.nasa.gov\/dynamicimage\/assets\/science\/psd\/solar\/2023\/07\/pioneervenusmultiprobe.jpg?w=1280&amp;h=1011&amp;fit=crop&amp;crop=faces%2Cfocalpoint\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">View larger<\/a>. | Artist\u2019s illustration of <a href=\"https:\/\/science.nasa.gov\/mission\/pioneer-venus-2\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Pioneer Venus 2<\/a> approaching Venus in 1978. The mission consisted of a main spacecraft, 1 large probe and 3 small probes. A new analysis of archived data from the mission shows much more water in Venus\u2019 clouds and less sulfuric acid than scientists previously thought. Image via <a href=\"https:\/\/science.nasa.gov\/mission\/pioneer-venus-2\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">NASA<\/a>\/ Paul Hudson.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Venus\u2019 clouds contain droplets that are highly acidic.<\/strong> Scientists thought they were mostly sulfuric acid with some water. But is that true?<\/li>\n<li><strong>A new analysis of data from the Pioneer Venus 2 mission<\/strong> in 1978 shows the droplets have less sulfuric acid and much more water than previous estimates, along with oxidized iron.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Venus\u2019 clouds could therefore be potentially more habitable<\/strong> for microbes than scientists have long thought.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A lot of water in Venus\u2019 clouds<\/p>\n<p>Venus is known for having highly acidic clouds with deadly amounts of concentrated sulfuric acid. But it turns out that might not be completely accurate. A team of scientists, led by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cpp.edu\/faculty\/rmogul\/index.shtml\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Rakesh Mogul<\/a> at California State Polytechnic University, Pomona (Cal Poly Pomona), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cpp.edu\/news\/content\/2025\/09\/venus-cloud-aerosols-contain-reservoirs-of-water-and-iron\/index.shtml\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">said<\/a> on September 26, 2025, that aerosols in Venus\u2019 clouds contain a lot more water than previously thought \u2013 about 60% of the clouds\u2019 composition \u2013 as well as oxidized iron. The researchers based the results on a reanalysis of archived data from the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pioneer_Venus_project\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Pioneer Venus project<\/a> in 1978.<\/p>\n<p>And the results suggest the sulfuric acid is less concentrated and potent than scientists have thought. It could also mean a more <a href=\"https:\/\/earthsky.org\/space\/habitable-zone-world-exoplanet-definition\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">habitable<\/a> environment for possible microbial life.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/science.nasa.gov\/mission\/pioneer-venus-1\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Pioneer Venus 1<\/a> orbited Venus from 1978 to 1992. <a href=\"https:\/\/science.nasa.gov\/mission\/pioneer-venus-2\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Pioneer Venus 2<\/a> consisted of one large probe and three small probes that descended through and analyzed the atmosphere before impacting on the surface.<\/p>\n<p>The researchers <a href=\"https:\/\/agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1029\/2024JE008582\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">published<\/a> their intriguing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.agu.org\/publications\/authors\/policies\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">peer-reviewed<\/a> findings in JGR Planets on September 26, 2025.<\/p>\n<p>Reanalyzing Venus\u2019 clouds<\/p>\n<p>The researchers reanalyzed data from NASA\u2019s Pioneer Venus mission in 1978. In particular, they reanalyzed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/science\/aerosol\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">aerosols<\/a> \u2013 tiny solid particles or liquid droplets \u2013 suspended in the atmosphere. Until now, the scientific consensus has been that Venus\u2019 clouds are highly acidic, with droplets of concentrated sulfuric acid.<\/p>\n<p>The data came from Pioneer Venus 2. Using the <a href=\"https:\/\/ntrs.nasa.gov\/citations\/19790053154\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">large probe neutral mass spectrometer<\/a> and other instruments, they analyzed the composition of the clouds and atmosphere during the descent to the surface. As the large probe descended, it inadvertently collected aerosols in its intake inlets. Subsequently, the aerosols underwent thermal decomposition and released gases and compounds into the onboard instruments.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, the team reevaluated the results from the old Soviet <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Venera\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Venera<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vega_program\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Vega<\/a> landers in the 1980s.<\/p>\n<p>Mogul and co-author <a href=\"https:\/\/experts.news.wisc.edu\/experts\/sanjay-limaye\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Sanjay Limaye<\/a> at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, discovered the inadvertent capture of the aerosols by Pioneer Venus 2 when they decided to take a fresh look at the mass spectral data from the large probe. They ultimately found an archived set of data on microfilm at the NASA Space Science Data Coordinated Archive office. <a href=\"https:\/\/science.gsfc.nasa.gov\/sci\/bio\/michael.j.way\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Way<\/a> at NASA and <a href=\"https:\/\/astrobiology.nasa.gov\/nai\/directory\/zolotov-mikhail\/index.html\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Mikhail Zolotov<\/a> at Arizona State University then also became co-authors of the new study. That data had remained largely forgotten after the mission in 1978.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bluesky-embed\" data-bluesky-uri=\"at:\/\/did:plc:3xzuajjta6vfb4cwl5l5iw4p\/app.bsky.feed.post\/3m25yhpbp2x2a\" data-bluesky-cid=\"bafyreibjmnqlfkhjqlgpx3ybfdnglwqfl5yoo4etdlebenfbxpnmivy7lq\">\n<p>Very interesting: Venus&#8217; Cloud Aerosols Contain Reservoirs of Water and Iron  www.cpp.edu\/news\/content\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:3xzuajjta6vfb4cwl5l5iw4p?ref_src=embed\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Prof. Abel M\u00e9ndez (@profabelmendez.bsky.social)<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:3xzuajjta6vfb4cwl5l5iw4p\/post\/3m25yhpbp2x2a?ref_src=embed\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2025-10-01T21:32:34.354Z<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Venus-ultraviolet-Akatsuki-December-23-2016-e1705398193364.png\" alt=\"Planet banded with turbulent blue, white, and tan clouds, on black background.\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" class=\"size-full wp-image-462605\"\/><a href=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/50513674188_5ceb7aa375_b.jpg\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">View larger<\/a>. | Japan\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/akatsuki.isas.jaxa.jp\/en\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Akatsuki<\/a> orbiter took this stunning <a href=\"https:\/\/earthsky.org\/space\/what-is-the-electromagnetic-spectrum\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">ultraviolet<\/a> image of Venus on December 23, 2016. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/science\/aerosol\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">aerosols<\/a> in the clouds on Venus are about 60% water, according to the new study. Image via JAXA\/ ISAS\/ DARTS\/ Kevin M. Gill\/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/53460575@N03\/50513674188\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Flickr<\/a>. Used with permission.<br \/>\nSurprise! There\u2019s an abundance of water in Venus\u2019 clouds<\/p>\n<p>The reanalysis found evidence of water (H2O), sulfur dioxide (SO2), molecular oxygen (O2) and iron oxide (Fe2O3). But the results also suggested something surprising. Yes, the clouds contain sulfuric acid, too. But not as much as previously thought. And a lot more water, about three times as much as previously estimated, in fact. The water constitutes about 60% of the aerosols by mass.<\/p>\n<p>Scientists had thought Venus\u2019 atmosphere is extremely dry, with the aerosol droplets in the clouds composed mostly of sulfuric acid and some water. But it might actually be the other way around, according to the new results. While the droplets are still acidic, the sulfuric acid is a lot less concentrated \u2013 and potent \u2013 than scientists thought. The droplets also contain oxidized iron.<\/p>\n<p>Further, the water is bound in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/science\/hydrate\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">hydrates<\/a> \u2013 or water-bearing compounds \u2013 such as hydrated ferric sulfate, hydrated magnesium sulfate and other hydrates.<\/p>\n<p>The researchers said multiple lines of evidence support the new interpretation of Venus\u2019 clouds and aerosols.<\/p>\n<p>Mogul <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cpp.edu\/news\/content\/2025\/09\/venus-cloud-aerosols-contain-reservoirs-of-water-and-iron\/index.shtml\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">explained<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Together, these direct measurements in Venus clouds highlight reservoirs of water and iron in the aerosols, and suggest that the iron may arise from the input of cosmic materials. This type of aerosol composition, which was not previously known, presents new considerations for cloud chemistry models, cloud habitability discussions and the continued and vigorous exploration of Venus.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Rakesh-Mogul-Cal-Poly-Pomona.jpg\" alt=\"Smiling man wearing a dark suit jacket and light blue dress shirt.\" width=\"500\" height=\"463\" class=\"size-full wp-image-524012\"  \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cpp.edu\/faculty\/rmogul\/index.shtml\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Rakesh Mogul<\/a> is a professor in the Chemistry and Biochemistry department at Cal Poly Pomona. He is the lead author of the new study about water in Venus\u2019 clouds. Image via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cpp.edu\/faculty\/rmogul\/index.shtml\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Cal Poly Pomona<\/a>.<br \/>\nAre the clouds of Venus habitable?<\/p>\n<p>The findings have significant implications for the possibility of Venus\u2019 clouds \u2013 especially at the altitudes with Earth-like temperatures \u2013 being habitable for microbial life. This brings to mind, of course, the reported <a href=\"https:\/\/earthsky.org\/space\/phosphine-on-venus-jane-greaves-astrobiology\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">discovery of phosphine<\/a> in those regions. On Earth, phosphine is produced mostly by microorganisms. And microbes exist in Earth\u2019s atmosphere, just like everywhere else on the planet.<\/p>\n<p>Scientists considered the high concentrations of sulfuric acid in the clouds to be a big problem, however. But if the aerosol droplets are actually more water than acid \u2013 the opposite of what has been assumed \u2013 then perhaps they could be a more habitable environment after all. It depends whether microbes could access and use the water hydrates and what form the hydrates are in. <\/p>\n<p>Typically, on Earth, microbes can\u2019t use water chemically bound in crystalline structures. But they can use <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bound_water#\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">bound water<\/a>, when the water molecules are in extremely thin films on mineral surfaces, only a few molecules thick.<\/p>\n<p>The new study doesn\u2019t make any direct conclusions, but it does show that maybe, just maybe, Venus\u2019 atmosphere could support some kind of life, way above its hellishly hot surface.<\/p>\n<p>Bottom line: A new reanalysis of data from the Pioneer Venus 2 mission in 1978 shows that water in Venus\u2019 clouds is much more abundant than previously thought.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1029\/2024JE008582\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Source: Re-Analysis of Pioneer Venus Data: Water, Iron Sulfate, and Sulfuric Acid are Major Components in Venus\u2019 Aerosols<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cpp.edu\/news\/content\/2025\/09\/venus-cloud-aerosols-contain-reservoirs-of-water-and-iron\/index.shtml\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Via Cal Poly Pomona<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/earthsky.org\/space\/invisible-asteroids-venus-earth\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Read more: \u2018Invisible\u2019 asteroids near Venus: A new danger to Earth?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/earthsky.org\/space\/venus-clouds-sample-return-mission-china-astrobiology\/\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Read more: Venus\u2019 clouds could soon be brought to Earth<\/a><\/p>\n<p>                    Paul Scott Anderson<br \/>\n                    <a href=\"https:\/\/earthsky.org\/author\/paul-scott-anderson\/\" class=\"post-author-link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">View Articles<\/a><\/p>\n<p>                    About the Author:<\/p>\n<p>Paul Scott Anderson has had a passion for space exploration that began when he was a child when he watched Carl Sagan\u2019s Cosmos. He studied English, writing, art and computer\/publication design in high school and college. He later started his blog The Meridiani Journal in 2005, which was later renamed Planetaria. He also later started the blog Fermi Paradoxica, about the search for life elsewhere in the universe.&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<br \/>\nWhile interested in all aspects of space exploration, his primary passion is planetary science and SETI. In 2011, he started writing about space on a freelance basis with Universe Today. He has also written for SpaceFlight Insider and AmericaSpace and has also been published in The Mars Quarterly. He also did some supplementary writing for the iOS app Exoplanet.&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<br \/>\nHe has been writing for EarthSky since 2018, and also assists with proofing and social media.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"View larger. | Artist\u2019s illustration of Pioneer Venus 2 approaching Venus in 1978. 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