{"id":112766,"date":"2025-10-10T06:19:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-10T06:19:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/112766\/"},"modified":"2025-10-10T06:19:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T06:19:08","slug":"ai-will-change-the-way-we-work-but-it-will-take-time-and-then-it-will-go-fast-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/112766\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018AI will change the way we work. But it will take time, and then it will go fast\u2019 \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Wall Street is hedging its bets. While the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sp500\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sp500\/\">S&amp;P 500<\/a>, the world\u2019s most followed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/business\/markets\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/business\/markets\/\">stock market<\/a> index, keeps hitting record highs every other day amid a three-year bull run, gold, which usually moves in the opposite direction to shares, has been on a tear of its own. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The price of the safe-haven asset has jumped more than 50 per cent so far this year to breach $4,000 (\u20ac3,443) an ounce for the first time. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Reasons for the gold rush abound. Many market strategists say the precious metal is being used as a hedge against economic uncertainty caused by Trump administration tariffs. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Some point to a fall this year in the value of the dollar, the currency in which gold is priced. And others say gold is a safe bet in case the artificial intelligence (AI) boom that has been fuelling the stock market starts to fizzle out. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">But, for Ron O\u2019Hanley, chairman and chief executive of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/state-street-global-advisors\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/state-street-global-advisors\/\">State Street<\/a> \u2013 a leading administrator to the global investment management industry and one of the biggest asset managers in its own right \u2013 the reason for the anomaly may be more simple. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/business\/markets\/2025\/10\/06\/gold-plated-fomo-powers-bullions-record-breaking-rally\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018Gold-plated Fomo\u2019 powers bullion\u2019s record-breaking rallyOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cIn some ways, gold is an indicator of what investors\u2019 beliefs are about long-term inflation prospects,\u201d O\u2019Hanley says, speaking to The Irish Times in Dublin this week. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There are good reasons to be concerned about rising inflation over time. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIf you look at government debt levels, there\u2019s been a fundamental change if you think about the \u201908 period to where we are now,\u201d he says. \u201cThe pandemic proved quite costly in the taking on of government debt.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Global government debt surged from 58 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2007 to 93 per cent last year, or almost $100 trillion, driven by the borrowings to support businesses and households during Covid lockdowns, according to the International Monetary Fund. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Some investors believe central banks may, eventually, tolerate higher inflation to reduce the real burden of public debt. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So, why is the equity market continuing to rise? \u201cIn aggregate, consumer debt levels are in pretty good shape relative to where they were in the past. Corporate debt levels are also in pretty good shape,\u201d says O\u2019Hanley. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThat is a good signal to the equity market.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The impact of the so-called Magnificent Seven tech stocks that have driven the S&amp;P 500 in recent years \u2013 Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta Platforms, Microsoft, Nvidia and Tesla \u2013 is now starting to broaden to other companies, he says. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Official interest rates are continuing to decline. Meanwhile, corporate earnings are, for the time being at least, also holding up well \u2013 with the consensus forecast among analysts pointing to 10 per cent earnings per share growth this year in the US \u2013 even as many industries are absorbing much of the impact of tariffs, rather than passing them on to customers. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">A survey published by KPMG last week found that just a fifth of US businesses have passed on over half of new tariff expenses. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Ron O&#x2019;Hanley: 'Whether you call it deglobalisation or a reordering of globalisation, we&#x2019;re going to see change &#x2013; and national interests become much more prominent.' Photograph: Nick Bradshaw\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/E23KGXY2VBE7HCRKX4632UQV6Q.JPG\"   width=\"800\" height=\"528\"\/>Ron O\u2019Hanley: &#8216;Whether you call it deglobalisation or a reordering of globalisation, we\u2019re going to see change \u2013 and national interests become much more prominent.&#8217; Photograph: Nick Bradshaw <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">O\u2019Hanley, whose group has $49 trillion of assets under custody and administration (almost the equivalent of the US and EU economies combined, measured by GDP), is on the fence \u2013 publicly at least \u2013 on the long-term effects of US president Donald Trump\u2019s protectionist trade policies. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThat\u2019s the $64,000 question that everybody\u2019s asking. And probably the entity that is asking it the most is the Federal Reserve. There is a school of thought that the tariffs are a one-time price reset and they shouldn\u2019t actually reset inflation expectations. Others say this has a rolling impact that will be cumulative \u2013 and in a way that we just don\u2019t know.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The biggest challenge is ongoing uncertainty, as many tariffs are still not finalised, he says, more than six months after Trump\u2019s Liberation Day speech. The broader question is the future of globalisation. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWhether you call it deglobalisation or a reordering of globalisation, we\u2019re going to see change \u2013 and national interests become much more prominent,\u201d he says. \u201cWe\u2019re in a period of adjustment. And the biggest challenge to investors and companies is that it\u2019s very hard to make a decision that has long-term implications when you\u2019ve got this kind of uncertainty.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It must be disorienting to ponder for someone whose career began at the dawn of the era of hyperglobalisation. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Following the completion of a master\u2019s in business administration (MBA) at Harvard Business School in 1986, Hanley joined management consultancy McKinsey, where he would end up as a partner and head of the firm\u2019s investment management practice worldwide. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/business\/work\/2025\/09\/28\/youd-have-to-have-been-a-turkey-not-to-have-made-money-in-venture-capital-in-1997\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018You\u2019d have to have been a turkey not to have made money in venture capital in 1997\u2019Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He subsequently joined Mellon Financial Corporation in 1997 and went on, following the group\u2019s 2007 merger with Bank of New York, to serve as the wider BNY Mellon group\u2019s asset management arm. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Hanley also spent a four-year stint in a senior role at Fidelity Investments before joining State Street in 2015 as head of the investment management arm. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">State Street traces its roots back to 1792 as Union Bank in Boston. Fifty years ago it shifted its focus from commercial banking to the plumbing work that takes place after shares and bonds are traded \u2013 like clearing, settlement and custody \u2013 as well as asset management. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">State Street set up an Irish operation in 1996 and has since become one of the largest international financial services employers in the State, employing about 2,300 people in offices in Dublin, Kilkenny, Naas, Co Kildare, and Drogheda, Co Louth.<b> <\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Almost a decade and a half ago, the investment arm bought Bank of Ireland Asset Management (BIAM), once the crown jewel of the Irish bank. BIAM had \u20ac26 billion of assets under management (AUM) at the time. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">The US group had $49 trillion of assets under custody and administration as of the end of June. Its asset management arm, rebranded as State Street Investment Management this year, had $5.12 trillion of AUM. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">While O\u2019Hanley\u2019s appointment as incoming CEO of State Street in November 2017 marked the culmination of his career, a report in The Boston Globe the next day drew attention to a less flattering episode from his distant past.<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"Ron O'Hanley\" class=\"c-stack b-it-article-body__pullquote\" data-style-direction=\"vertical\" data-style-justification=\"start\" data-style-alignment=\"unset\" data-style-inline=\"false\" data-style-wrap=\"nowrap\">\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">It\u2019s interesting to see all the excitement in AI as if it was invented in 2023 &#8230; we \u2013 and others \u2013 have been on this AI journey for many, many years<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 \u00a0Ron O&#8217;Hanley<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It reported that he withdrew from Vanderbilt University Law School in 1983 after admitting to plagiarism as editor-in-chief of the Vanderbilt Law Review. A day after the report, he issued an email to staff, acknowledging that \u201cas a student I made a big mistake\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">State Street stood by O\u2019Hanley. A spokeswoman said at the time that he had fully disclosed the matter and the organisation supported him \u201cunequivocally\u201d. His \u201ctrack record as a corporate leader and his achievements both at State Street and in his previous roles speak for themselves\u201d, she added.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Under O\u2019Hanley\u2019s tenure as CEO, which officially began in January 2019, the group\u2019s assets under custody and administration have jumped 55 per cent, while assets under management have more than doubled. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">While the softly-spoken executive is a lower-profile figure than many other bosses of top US financial institutions \u2013 such as JP Morgan\u2019s Jamie Dimon, Larry Fink of BlackRock or Jane Fraser at Citigroup \u2013 he is well regarded in the asset management and administration world. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Last year, Global Custodian, the go-to publication for the industry, gave him a lifetime achievement award.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The past three years have seen State Street take out $1.3 billion of running expenses, driven by the use of AI to do more mundane tasks normally carried out by entry-level workers, O\u2019Hanley told a conference in June. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He said the underlying global headcount fell by 4,000 last year \u2013 even as the headline figure jumped 13 per cent to 53,000 as it consolidated an Indian joint venture into the group. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt\u2019s interesting to see all the excitement in AI as if it was invented in 2023,\u201d he says now. \u201cBut we \u2013 and others \u2013 have been on this AI journey for many, many years.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/business\/work\/2025\/09\/11\/ais-replacement-of-humans-in-hr-is-emblematic-of-what-could-happen-across-the-workplace\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">AI\u2019s replacement of humans in HR is emblematic of what could happen across the workplaceOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Machine learning has long been used for one of the most important daily tasks of State Street: calculating the net asset value (NAV) of tens of thousands of funds. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cFifteen or 20 years ago, markets would close and a flurry of activity would start to work out what happened in a fund that day \u2013 the buys, the sells, the corporate actions, the dividends paid and received \u2013 to come up with a net asset value. It typically took an hour and a half to produce and send on to clients.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWhat\u2019s happening now, with machine learning, is that the NAV is being calculated transaction by transaction every day. That was, if you will, a prior generation of AI.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">State Street is currently teaming up its software engineers with what he calls \u201cAI buddies\u201d. And it is encouraging employees to continually think differently about how AI can be used at work. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI\u2019m often amazed at some of the ideas that come up. Some you might think of as trite, but they\u2019re actually changing work in a fundamental way.<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"Ron O'Hanley\" class=\"c-stack b-it-article-body__pullquote\" data-style-direction=\"vertical\" data-style-justification=\"start\" data-style-alignment=\"unset\" data-style-inline=\"false\" data-style-wrap=\"nowrap\">\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">The housing crisis isn\u2019t unique to Ireland. Our home city of Boston is equally challenged when it comes to housing. It\u2019s a global problem<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 \u00a0Ron O&#8217;Hanley<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cFor example, take the end of a financial period. Again, that\u2019s a time when a lot of people spring into action. All that work has now shortened. Is it reducing the number of people? Not really. But time that was spent on identifying \u2018what happened\u2019 is collapsing. That\u2019s created more time for the \u2018so what\u2019 of what\u2019s happened \u2013 the analysis around it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Most importantly, it\u2019s left time to consider the \u2018now what?\u2019 \u2013 what are we going to do next?\u201d he says. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cAI will change the way we work. But, like a lot of change, it will take time, and then it will go fast.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Will AI lead to dystopian scenario of the robots taking over white-collar jobs, or create a future where people are free to enjoy greater leisure and personal fulfilment? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"> \u201cI think neither is going to happen. For the most part, it will change the nature of work for the positive,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cIt\u2019ll put new requirements on employees. It will also have implications for the education system. We need to move away from a way of thinking, where people go, \u2018I know exactly what my child needs. They need to go to coding camp and be prepared to be an electrical engineer.\u2019 In future, you need to be a problem solver and you need to be a lifelong learner.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">O\u2019Hanley (68) says he spends about 60 per cent of his working life away from Boston. He has been in Ireland this week for a series of meetings and to speak at a convention in Dublin on Thursday. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">He has Irish roots on both sides of his family tree. Forebears of his mother, whose family name was Fagan, moved to the US in the 18th century. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cThe O\u2019Hanley\u2019s were famine emigrants from Roscommon in the late 1840s,\u201d he says. \u201cThey took the classic journey, with a couple of generations in Canada before making their way down to the Boston-Rhode Island area.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"> O\u2019Hanley also speaks about State Street\u2019s commitment to regional Irish towns and cities, even as rival BNY Mellon recently decided to close its offices in Wexford and Cork \u2013 affecting hundreds of jobs \u2013 to improve \u201coperational efficiency\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Dublin\u2019s position at the epicentre of a national housing crisis makes it more important to spread the company\u2019s Irish operations to attract and keep \u201ctalent\u201d, O\u2019Hanley says. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/opinion\/2025\/09\/18\/lorcan-sirr-dublin-is-becoming-a-place-of-extremes-home-to-only-the-very-richest-and-the-poorest\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dublin is becoming a place of extremes, home to only the very richest and the poorestOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe housing crisis isn\u2019t unique to Ireland. Our home city of Boston is equally challenged when it comes to housing. It\u2019s a global problem.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The CEO says he\u2019s \u201cactually quite encouraged\u201d by Government efforts to boost housing supply. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">While economists say the Government faces major challenges meeting its target of delivering 300,000 new homes by 2030, home builders have concluded that Budget 2026 measures aimed at rebooting apartment building \u2013 together with new apartment construction guidelines unveiled during the summer \u2013 have moved the dial significantly and will help narrow the viability gap for apartment construction. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cBut, like everybody else,\u201d O\u2019Hanley says, \u201cwe\u2019d like to see more, faster.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>CV<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><b>Name:<\/b> Ron O\u2019Hanley.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><b>Job:<\/b> Chairman and chief executive at State Street.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><b>Age:<\/b> 68.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><b>Lives:<\/b> Boston.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><b>Hobbies:<\/b> He is an avid offshore sailboat racer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><b>Something you might expect:<\/b> Ron serves on the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and on several industry and not-for-profit boards, including the Ireland Funds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><b>Something you might not expect:<\/b> He competed in the 2025 Admiral\u2019s Cup for the Royal Irish Yacht Club in D\u00fan Laoghaire. In 2023, his boat set the course record for the D\u00fan Laoghaire to Dingle race.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Wall Street is hedging its bets. 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