{"id":118375,"date":"2025-10-13T01:34:07","date_gmt":"2025-10-13T01:34:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/118375\/"},"modified":"2025-10-13T01:34:07","modified_gmt":"2025-10-13T01:34:07","slug":"is-the-market-in-bubble-territory","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/118375\/","title":{"rendered":"Is the market in bubble territory?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Markets are starting to party like it\u2019s 1999. We\u2019re not quite there yet, though. Between October 1999 and March 2000, the Nasdaq almost doubled. That makes today\u2019s markets look tame, but perhaps another blowoff top is around the corner.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"Nasdaq\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/HZKECG7CQVDMXAJD6ZHWHS2EHU.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s especially the case as markets start to front-run the appointment of a new Trump-friendly Federal Reserve Chairman, who will undoubtedly cut rates \u2013 potentially a lot &#8211; by mid next year.<\/p>\n<p>The parallels<\/p>\n<p>The similarities between today\u2019s markets and 1999 are becoming eerie:<\/p>\n<p><b>1. Market (over?) exuberance for anything tech.<\/b> Just ten firms \u2013 including Amazon and Nvidia &#8211; have accounted for 55% of the rise in the S&amp;P 500 since ChatGPT launched in 2022. Today, Nvidia is tech\u2019s golden child, as CISCO was back in 1999.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"Nvidia\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/TGOWVFEPSNGCRAHSXVHJEKVJ7M.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><b>2. Bulging non-listed tech deals.<\/b> In July, an AI start-up called Thinking Machines Labs raised $US2 billion in funding at a valuation of $US10 billion. Leading Silicon Valley venture capital firms led the deal, and the likes of Nvidia and, funnily enough, CISCO, also chipped in. The kicker? Thinking Machines doesn\u2019t have a product or any revenue.<\/p>\n<p>These types are deals are making the 90s look lame.<\/p>\n<p><b>3. Lossmaking listed tech firms are booming again.<\/b> In 2000, online retailer Pets.com listed at a valuation of $US1.2 billion despite generating only $US5.8 million in revenue.<\/p>\n<p>Today, meme stocks are leading the charge, outperforming the index and even the Magnificent 7.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"Returns\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/NEZZBRHYNVDIPLYF72AXGY5EFE.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><b>4. AI-related news is greeted with market exuberance, like tech\/telecoms was in the 90s.<\/b> In September, Larry Ellison briefly became the world\u2019s richest man after AI enthusiasm prompted the share price of Oracle, his firm, to pop.<\/p>\n<p><b>5. Spending on AI is skyrocketing, like it did with telecoms in the 90s.<\/b> Morgan Stanley estimates that cumulative investment in new data centres will reach $3 trillion by 2028. That dwarfs current AI revenues of about $US50 billion and raises questions about the return on investment from AI spend and whether we\u2019ll be left with \u2018ghost\u2019 data centres akin to what happened with telecommunications equipment in the dotcom period.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"Capex\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/5GKND6E55RHLZHGKT66EJTEDDI.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><b>6. Funny \u2018vendor financing deals\u2019 are back in vogue. <\/b>The largest of these deals is Nvidia\u2019s US$100 billion investment in OpenAI. Under the terms of the deal, OpenAI pays for Nvidia\u2019s powerful chips in cash, while Nvidia will reinvest that amount in OpenAI through non-controlling shares.<\/p>\n<p>This has similarities to \u2018vendor financing\u2019, a 1990s tactic where companies lent money to clients to facilitate the purchase of their products.<\/p>\n<p><b>7. Accounting gimmickry has resurfaced. <\/b>Bookkeeping gimmickry is a telltale sign of a speculative boom. It might be happening again today.<\/p>\n<p>Many of the tech giants have lengthened the depreciation schedule for their AI servers, which seems odd given the recent advances in chipmaking. Microsoft increased it from four to six years in 2022. Alphabet did likewise in 2023. Oracle altered it from five to six in 2024. And Meta moved from five to five and a half years in January this year.<\/p>\n<p>Lengthening the lifetimes for servers decreases depreciation charges and boosts short-term profits.<\/p>\n<p>Barclays estimates that using more realistic server depreciations schedules of three years would reduce earnings of Meta, Amazon, and Alphabet by up to 10%.<\/p>\n<p>The differences<\/p>\n<p>While there are undoubtedly similarities between today\u2019s markets and those of the dotcom era, there are also some important differences:<\/p>\n<p><b>1. Rates are going down, not up. <\/b>In 1999, the US raised interest rates three times to try to cool an overheated economy. Now, the Federal Reserve is cutting rates, with more to come.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"Fed\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/U5RLSJLMLRDGPALIWCMWBAEQTI.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><b>2. Gold is at record highs. <\/b>The contrast between the gold price in the late 90s and now is striking. Back then, as the stock market boomed, the gold price was in the process of bottoming after a 20-year bear market. Today, gold is surging to record highs along with markets.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"Gold\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/T353GYYNIBD7FBAYO6SIJGGCR4.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><b>3. Fiscal deficits and debt are exploding. <\/b>This may have something to do with gold\u2019s bull market. Western governments have been happy to rack up fiscal deficits and debt to prop up their economies over the past decade.<\/p>\n<p>With the rise in interest rates from historic lows in 2021-2022, that\u2019s become increasingly problematic. For instance, the US government now spends more on servicing its debts than it does on the military.<\/p>\n<p>There are legitimate concerns that the US is now caught in a debt trap \u2013 a vicious circle of higher borrowing costs and larger deficits sending the stock of debt on an uncontrolled upward spiral.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s no wonder investors are turning to gold as a safe haven.<\/p>\n<p>And it\u2019s quite a different situation to the 1990s, when government debts were much lower.<\/p>\n<p><b>4. Economies are more exposed to tech today. <\/b>When the dotcom bubble burst, it led to a short, sharp US recession in 2001.<\/p>\n<p>Today, the US economy and perhaps many other economies are even more exposed to the tech boom. AI contributed almost 40% of America\u2019s GDP growth over the past 12 months &#8211; an incredible number given the sector only accounts for about 2% of US output.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"GDP\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/EPOIKPZQORGXBOCYNV44RLE53I.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p><b>5. AI is producing extraordinary winners though \u2018quiet\u2019 losers too. <\/b>The rise of the Internet transformed industries, though it feels like AI is creating even greater structural change.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve all heard about the winners from AI, yet there has been little spoken of the losers.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been tracking data-related companies, some of which have been stellar stocks for decades. Lately, they\u2019ve been getting hammered over concerns from the impact of AI.<\/p>\n<p>FactSet, a prominent financial data and analytics company, is one of them, down 42% year-to-date.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"FactSet\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/3RMKUGDGXNHCRMR4PRLOVL3FGU.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Gartner, a leading ratings firm for tech products, has fallen 52% over the past year.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" onerror=\"this.setAttribute('data-error', 1)\" alt=\"Gartner\" loading=\"lazy\" data-nuxt-img=\"\" src=\"\/_ipx\/f_webp&amp;q_50&amp;blur_3&amp;s_10x10\/https:\/\/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com\/morningstar\/5RKTUL7QRBGADA3H5TQLFF23ZE.jpg\" data-v-fceac6fb=\"\"\/>The upshot<\/p>\n<p>No two periods are the same, though today\u2019s markets have a lot more similarities to the 1990s than differences.<\/p>\n<p>Further rate cuts have the potential to provide further fuel for surging markets.<\/p>\n<p>The concern is how dependent US economic growth has become on AI spending. Should that spending falter, the blowback for US and global GDP could be severe.<\/p>\n<p>Buckle up, it could be a wild ride.<\/p>\n<p>If you would like to join the conversation and provide your opinion about the contents of this article, you can leave you comment<a href=\"https:\/\/www.firstlinks.com.au\/welcome-firstlinks-edition-632\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.firstlinks.com.au\/welcome-firstlinks-edition-632\"> on the original article on Firstlinks.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/morningstar.com.au\/newsletters\/subscribe?placement=articles&amp;user_segment=indinv\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/morningstar.com.au\/newsletters\/subscribe?placement=articles&amp;user_segment=indinv\">Get Morningstar\u2019s insights in your inbox<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"main\" src=\"\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Markets are starting to party like it\u2019s 1999. 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