{"id":143080,"date":"2025-10-24T16:28:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-24T16:28:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/143080\/"},"modified":"2025-10-24T16:28:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-24T16:28:08","slug":"three-dodgy-box-operators-found-liable-to-pay-possibly-hundreds-of-thousands-to-sky-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/143080\/","title":{"rendered":"Three \u2018dodgy box\u2019 operators found liable to pay possibly hundreds of thousands to Sky \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Three people involved in selling \u201cdodgy boxes\u201d \u2013 which are used to illegally access TV streaming services \u2013 have been found liable by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/high-court\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/high-court\">High Court<\/a> to pay possibly hundreds of thousands of euro which Sky says it has lost from their activities. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Mr Justice Liam Kennedy granted judgment, in two separate cases, against the three to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sky\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sky\">Sky UK Ltd<\/a> which provides TV services in the UK and Ireland.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The three, who failed to appear in court, are Andrew Keena, Mariner\u2019s Court, Blackrock, Co Louth, and Stephen McBride and Carol Thornton, both of Defenders Row, Dundalk, Co Louth. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The judge also granted permanent injunctions that they cease all copyright infringing activities and not to continue to make the material available on their infringing services. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They are also prohibited from taking, directly or indirectly, steps to transfer or give away any source code or other technology related to their infringing services and to cease all advertising of the services.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The court will assess damages at a future date. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">An investigator employed by Sky Subscriber Services Ltd said in affidavits that the estimated annual loss from Mr Keena\u2019s activities was conservatively put at \u20ac643,860 based on Sky\u2019s average revenue per month of \u20ac73 per customer. Mr Keena is estimated to have had 735 customers paying an entity called \u201cInterstellar Media\u201d \u20ac95 per year, bringing in \u20ac69,825.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The number of customers was based on members of a Facebook group set up for the purpose of providing information about the use of Interstellar Media. However, the investigator said in one Facebook post, in June 2021 during the UEFA Euro football tournament in 2021, it was stated there were \u201cover 4,856 customers\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Interstellar Media was notable among infringers in that it used its own branded application to provide its services via downloads for internet protocol TV (IPTV) firesticks, computers and other devices, the investigator said. Most IPTV service providers use generic applications to stream their services.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/crime-law\/2025\/06\/21\/confessions-of-a-dodgy-box-owner-it-did-give-me-pause-for-thought-but-the-savings-are-incredible\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Confessions of a dodgy box owner: \u2018It did give me pause for thought but the savings are incredible\u2019Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Mr McBride and Ms Thornton charged a \u201ccompetitive\u201d \u20ac70 per year for their service, Mr Gilmore said. Infringing IPTV subscriptions regularly sell for \u20ac100 plus per year, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">In the McBride\/Thornton case, the investigator estimated an annual loss to Sky of \u20ac876,000. Mr McBride boasted of selling to more than 1,000, which meant a revenue for them of more than \u20ac70,000.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The McBride\/Thornton service involved customers downloading an application called \u201cDreambox Android XMBC\u201d to an Amazon Firestick which provided Sky Entertainment, Sky Sports and Sky Cinema, among other channels. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Mr McBride also sent an instructional video to customers on how to install and use the service. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">All three defendants advertised through Facebook while the McBride\/Thornton service was also on Instagram using slogans like \u201cSick of paying ridiculous Sky bills\u201d and \u201cNo more stupid Sky bills\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">When \u201ccease and desist\u201d letters were sent by Sky\u2019s lawyers to all three, Mr Keena said Interstellar Media was no longer in operation since around November 2021.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He also claimed that his PayPal account which received payments for Interstellar Media had been used without his knowledge by a third party. He refused to name the third party. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The investigator said Mr Keena also has an apparent connection with another infringing IPTV service called Showbiz Media and this means his infringing activities are not just limited to Interstellar Media. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Interstellar was a very sophisticated service operating at scale and Mr Keena had been \u201cvery evasive and dishonest in his limited engagements\u201d with Sky, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">When Mr McBride received a cease and desist letter, he replied in April 2022 saying \u201cExcuse me?. Is this spam or a joke?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The investigator said, at his request, Mr McBride\u2019s Facebook profile was removed. But he created two new profiles, one in his own name and other called \u201cFiresticks Dundalk\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/opinion\/editorials\/2025\/08\/22\/the-irish-times-view-on-dodgy-boxes-enforce-the-law\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Irish Times view on dodgy boxes: enforce the lawOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In and around mid-2023, when Sky first commence legal proceedings against him and Ms Thornton, the infringing services ceased.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Sky has little comfort from the ceasing of services by all three defendants that they will not recommence in the future, Mr Gilmore said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The defendants, who have not otherwise engaged with the proceedings against them, will have an opportunity to turn up in court was the assessment of damages is being carried out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Three people involved in selling \u201cdodgy boxes\u201d \u2013 which are used to illegally access TV streaming services \u2013&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":12098,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[73],"tags":[79,18,10476,19,17,4657],"class_list":{"0":"post-143080","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-business","8":"tag-business","9":"tag-eire","10":"tag-high-court","11":"tag-ie","12":"tag-ireland","13":"tag-sky"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/115430090593275576","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/143080","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=143080"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/143080\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/12098"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=143080"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=143080"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=143080"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}