{"id":144073,"date":"2025-10-25T05:08:11","date_gmt":"2025-10-25T05:08:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/144073\/"},"modified":"2025-10-25T05:08:11","modified_gmt":"2025-10-25T05:08:11","slug":"leo-cullens-leinster-are-paying-the-price-for-their-dominance-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/144073\/","title":{"rendered":"Leo Cullen\u2019s Leinster are paying the price for their dominance \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">What is the primary task of a provincial head coach such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/leo-cullen\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/leo-cullen\/\">Leo Cullen<\/a>? Is it to win the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/champions-cup\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/champions-cup\/\">Champions Cup<\/a>? Failing that, to win the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-rugby-championship\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-rugby-championship\/\">URC<\/a>? Or is it to develop and produce players for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ireland-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ireland-rugby\/\">Ireland<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Like Cullen, Clayton McMillan, Stuart Lancaster and Richie Murphy were sought out, interviewed, appointed and paid by the IRFU. Their assistant coaches and backroom staff are under the employment of the respective provinces, albeit subsidised by the IRFU. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So it is that their main role is to supply the national team. The Leinster machine under Cullen has been pretty effective at this. On top of being bulk suppliers for Ireland for some golden years, Leinster also provided 14 players to the summer\u2019s British &amp; Irish Lions tour and the province has 22 players currently in Chicago for Ireland\u2019s opening autumn international against New Zealand, 23 if you count Rieko Ioane.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"c-image audio_image\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1739272379918-c03b2529-1643-4e02-ab77-51ef2d1ea4b6.jpeg\"\/>After a decade of success, can Irish rugby continue to achieve?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">And, lest we forget, Leinster won the URC title last June with a thumping 32-7 win over the Bulls at the end of a season in which they won 25 out of 28 matches. That gave them a better win ratio than in their 2017\/18 double season, or any other Leinster campaign in the professional era.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So, viewed in that light, Cullen is doing a brilliant job.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Not that anyone among Leinster\u2019s more entitled and disaffected fan base will see it that way, largely as last week\u2019s thumping by Munster probably marked the most emphatic loss to their rivals since the pre-2009 bad old days. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">At its core, rugby remains a simple contact game. After being largely dominated in the fixture since the 2011 Magner League final triumph, Munster seemed to bring more emotional energy and physical intensity to last Saturday\u2019s game at Croke Park than Leinster. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">There also seemed both more subtlety and clarity to what Munster were doing in attack compared to Leinster. What\u2019s more, Leinster\u2019s bluntness came in the wake of last season\u2019s loose and defensively porous Champions Cup semi-final loss to Northampton, which in turn has shone a light on Tyler Bleyendaal and Jacques Nienaber, and raised questions over whether the hangover from that defeat still lingers. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere\u2019s the noise and all the rest, and we know people like to have a bit of a chip at us,\u201d said Cullen. \u201cListen, that\u2019s part of the business. It comes with the territory.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Casting our minds back to last season\u2019s win over the Bulls, he added: \u201cOn a pretty manky old day, I think there was good attack and defence that day. I believe we have a great group of coaches.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">There is, inevitably, a flip side to providing 14 Lions and 22 players to the Ireland squad. As Leinster\u2019s Lions call-ups kept mounting for a tour that continued into August, one couldn\u2019t help but think that this would be Cullen\u2019s most challenging season he was first thrown the keys in 2015.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The net effect is that several Leinster frontliners will be making their first or second appearances of the season for the province in the Champions Cup against Harlequins at the Aviva on December 6th.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">True, Tadhg Beirne\u2019s display last Saturday offered Leinster\u2019s Lions no excuses. The sheer scale of the defeat echoed the 35-0 first round loss to the Stormers, when Leinster looked like they\u2019d had no preseason.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">For years, Leinster have wanted their South African URC stint to take place earlier in the season. Be careful what you wish for. This post-Lions, pre-November internationals window was not the one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Back in Cullen\u2019s first season, although they topped their Pro12 Conference and reached the final, the province lost five of their six Champions Cup fixtures. Yet the highlight of that campaign was the 25-11 win over Bath in their penultimate pool game, when Cullen gave Garry Rongrose, Luke McGrath, Peter Dooley, James Tracy, Tadhg Furlong and Ross Molony their first European starts. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">McGrath captains Leinster against Zebre at the Aviva Stadium on Saturday (kick-off 5.30pm), and while this has nothing like the cache of that Bath game, Cullen has given debuts to five Leinster players. The quick-witted, quick-footed fullback Hugo McLaughlin and ex-Roscrea prop Jerry Cahir make the starting XV, while Alex Usanov, Bobby Sheehan and the gifted Terenure College outhalf Caspar Gabriel are on the bench. Further energy will come from exciting ex-Sevens winger JJ Kenny and combative lock Diarmuid Mangan. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Those who watch the AIL will be enthused. It\u2019s something of a one-off, callow young side cobbled together in three training sessions. The scars from last Saturday will linger into December regardless. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">\u201cNothing gets won in October, as they say,\u201d said Cullen after announcing his side to face Zebre. \u201cSo, maybe it\u2019s a good old jolt for us nice and early rather than have it later in the season after winning a big succession of games just to get to a point later in the season where suddenly you come unstuck in a knockout game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">But Leinster looked a little stale at Croke Park. Every team needs an infusion of young blood and if some of these fresh-faced players shoot the lights out against Zebre, it could be restorative.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"What is the primary task of a provincial head coach such as Leo Cullen? 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