{"id":198593,"date":"2025-11-25T02:12:13","date_gmt":"2025-11-25T02:12:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/198593\/"},"modified":"2025-11-25T02:12:13","modified_gmt":"2025-11-25T02:12:13","slug":"irelands-50-win-rate-at-autumn-nations-is-not-where-andy-farrell-wants-or-needs-to-be-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/198593\/","title":{"rendered":"Ireland\u2019s 50% win rate at Autumn Nations is not where Andy Farrell wants or needs to be \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Monday\u2019s world rankings told <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ireland-rugby\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ireland-rugby\">Ireland<\/a> what they already knew: that two wins from four matches in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/autumn-nations-series\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/autumn-nations-series\">Autumn Nations Series<\/a> doesn\u2019t cut it at the sharp end of Test rugby. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Dropping from third in the world to fourth with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/england-rugby\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/england-rugby\">England<\/a> going in the opposite direction \u2013 their four wins squeezing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/andy-farrell\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/andy-farrell\">Andy Farrell\u2019s<\/a> side out of third place \u2013 points to a mixed bag for the November series. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Winning against two teams Ireland should have beaten \u2013 Japan and Australia \u2013 but losing to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/all-blacks\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/all-blacks\/\">New Zealand<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/south-africa-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/south-africa-rugby\/\">South Africa<\/a>, two teams they had hoped to beat, was a frustrating, uneven four weeks for Farrell and his players.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It was not all bad, however, with some players rising to the different challenges and having impact in matches, even against South Africa, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/11\/22\/brave-ireland-fall-to-ferocious-springboks-in-card-laden-battle\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/11\/22\/brave-ireland-fall-to-ferocious-springboks-in-card-laden-battle\/\">the 13-24 defeat from which most will draw their conclusions<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">None more than <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ryan-baird\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ryan-baird\">Ryan Baird<\/a>, perhaps Ireland\u2019s player of the series but who is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/11\/24\/ryan-baird-and-jamie-osborne-are-doubts-for-six-nations-with-long-term-injuries\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/11\/24\/ryan-baird-and-jamie-osborne-are-doubts-for-six-nations-with-long-term-injuries\/\">now in doubt for the Six Nations<\/a>. Baird came off against the Springboks with 20 minutes remaining and walked uncomfortably to the dugout.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">His injured leg is believed to be a broken tibia, which would keep him out for three months until the end of February.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Baird was not just effective in the Irish lineouts \u2013 both in attack and in defence \u2013 but also around the park his athletic ability showed more than it has in previous matches. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The change from doing good work to being eye-catching was the difference and he looks to have become the long-term replacement for Peter O\u2019Mahony at blindside flanker, where he has started Ireland\u2019s last six matches.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/mack-hansen\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/mack-hansen\">Mack Hansen<\/a> was also one of the upticks on his return from injury. Three tries against the <a href=\"\" rel=\"\" title=\"\">Wallabies<\/a> was just reward for smart reading of the game, looking dangerous with the ball in hand and his comfort in contesting for possession in the air.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Mack Hansen is grabbed by South Africa's Kwagga Smith during Saturday's game. Photograph: Gary Carr\/INPHO\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/SCYNTHTQGSQ4MQSWMJEERDGXXY.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"522\"\/>Mack Hansen is grabbed by South Africa&#8217;s Kwagga Smith during Saturday&#8217;s game. Photograph: Gary Carr\/INPHO <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ulster centre <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/stuart-mccloskey\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/stuart-mccloskey\/\">Stuart McCloskey<\/a>, who featured against the All Blacks but was confined to just 27 minutes against Australia, was one of Ireland\u2019s better carriers, especially over the hard yards. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">McCloskey had to leave the pitch with a recurrence of a groin injury, unfortunate timing for a player finding form.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">All three players, Baird, Hansen and McCloskey, finished the series injured, with McCloskey not making it to the starting line for the final game against South Africa.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jamie-osborne\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jamie-osborne\/\">Jamie Osborne<\/a> also showed he was growing into the role at fullback before a shoulder injury ended his involvement. And on the right wing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/tommy-o-brien\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/tommy-o-brien\/\">Tommy O\u2019Brien<\/a> was lively and competitive in all four matches and he will be hopeful of runs in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/six-nations\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/six-nations\">Six Nations<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ireland captain <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/caelan-doris\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/caelan-doris\/\">Caelan Doris<\/a> also showed what a force he can be \u2013 and in the final game in the face of a Springbok pounding was back to playing his naturally forceful game. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">When trench warfare was what the team needed, Doris came up with it on the day. Not entirely error free, the Ireland captain nonetheless led by example, especially in the clutch moments under heavy Springbok fire.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It is also hard to look past 22-year-old Paddy McCarthy. With a first Irish start against Australia, the loosehead prop came off the bench against New Zealand, Japan (where he grabbed a try) and South Africa.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">True, he was part of a scrum that was ground down, and he shipped a yellow card in the face of huge South African pressure, but the four games will add hugely to his growing experience.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Missing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/hugo-keenan\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/hugo-keenan\" target=\"_blank\">Hugo Keenan<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/joe-mccarthy\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/joe-mccarthy\" target=\"_blank\">Joe McCarthy<\/a> for the series was significant, especially against the Springboks. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">McCarthy\u2019s natural physicality and aggression would have been an asset as he enters the final stages of rehabilitation from a foot injury.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Paddy McCarthy and Tadhg Furlong in action against the Springboks. Photograph: Gary Carr\/INPHO\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/VT5W3GPUKCZX4YGNO6CDUG5HXM.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"558\"\/>Paddy McCarthy and Tadhg Furlong in action against the Springboks. Photograph: Gary Carr\/INPHO <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Collectively, the scrum will need a serious review. As Ireland rightly measure themselves against the best in the world, it is pointless to pick out the games against Japan and Australia, where it was fine, but gloss over South Africa.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Boan Venter, world player of the year Malcolm Marx and Thomas du Toit destroyed the Irish set piece.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There were 16 scrums, with South Africa winning two yellow cards and eight penalties. Farrell was asked specifically about it after the match.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cHe [the referee] saw a dominant scrum,\u201d he said. \u201cAnd whether there\u2019s illegalities within all that, we\u2019ve got to see past that and be better than that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Indeed. Discipline also became an issue, which Farrell will surely address.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">On the upside, the Irish lineout that had been poor in the opening games with unheard calls and atypical chaos was patched up, as the players said it would be, and it functioned well. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Farrell, after almost a year away with the Lions, has been unable to find the consistency or performance levels Ireland reached at the last World Cup.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A 50 per cent win rate is not where he wants to be. He has just over two months to work it out before facing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/france-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/france-rugby\/\">France<\/a> on a Thursday night in Paris in early February.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Monday\u2019s world rankings told Ireland what they already knew: that two wins from four matches in the Autumn&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":198594,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[76],"tags":[34133,70904,75579,53479,18,80725,34134,19,17,34132,104350,80310,2525,103111,96426,39462,132,4389,104349,110030,4388],"class_list":{"0":"post-198593","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-sports","8":"tag-all-blacks","9":"tag-andy-farrell","10":"tag-autumn-nations-series","11":"tag-caelan-doris","12":"tag-eire","13":"tag-england-rugby","14":"tag-france-rugby","15":"tag-ie","16":"tag-ireland","17":"tag-ireland-rugby","18":"tag-jamie-osborne","19":"tag-mack-hansen","20":"tag-rugby","21":"tag-ryan-baird","22":"tag-six-nations","23":"tag-south-africa-rugby","24":"tag-sports","25":"tag-springboks","26":"tag-stuart-mccloskey","27":"tag-tommy-o-brien","28":"tag-wallabies"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/115607919088200753","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198593","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=198593"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198593\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/198594"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=198593"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=198593"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=198593"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}