{"id":249648,"date":"2025-12-24T18:51:12","date_gmt":"2025-12-24T18:51:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/249648\/"},"modified":"2025-12-24T18:51:12","modified_gmt":"2025-12-24T18:51:12","slug":"pluribus-cliffhanger-left-rhea-seehorn-baffled-and-excited","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/249648\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Pluribus\u2019 Cliffhanger Left Rhea Seehorn Baffled and Excited"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>                  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/da7bc1b7204bd55282377a097d65004c9a-pluribus-ep9-7.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"lede-image\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n                  The Pluribus star explains her understanding \u2014 or lack thereof \u2014 of the season finale: \u201cI\u2019ve gone through a lot of possibilities.\u201d<br \/>\n                  Photo: Apple TV+\n              <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjbutwz5000i0ij12x30dcy0@published\" data-word-count=\"171\">This season of Pluribus ended with nearly as much mystery for its star as its audience. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/rhea-seehorn-pluribus-interview-vince-gilligan.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rhea Seehorn<\/a>, who plays Carol Sturka in Vince Gilligan\u2019s Apple TV series, has no idea what will happen after the season ends on a massive cliffhanger. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-season-1-finale-recap-episode-9-la-chica-o-el-mundo.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the show\u2019s ninth episode<\/a>, Carol embarks on a relationship with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/karolina-wydra-imparts-the-universal-sadness-of-pluribus.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Karolina Wydra\u2019s Zosia<\/a>, a representative of the hive that has united nearly all of humanity, but then discovers the hive has taken the eggs she had frozen prior to the beginning of the series, back when she was (not entirely) happily married to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-miriam-shor-helen-carol-relationship-ice-hotel-interview.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Miriam Shor\u2019s Helen<\/a>. They\u2019re planning to use the genetic material in those eggs to find a way to join Carol with them, seemingly whether she wants to or not. Zosia estimates that they\u2019ll have a solution ready in about a month. Carol reacts to the betrayal with shock, disappointment, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-carol-mental-health-recap.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">some very Carol rage<\/a>. \u201cThat scene is brutal,\u201d Seehorn told me. \u201cWhen I read that, I called Karolina. I was like, \u2018Man, that is low.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjjfpjh8001j3b7abetujpc4@published\" data-word-count=\"91\">But that\u2019s not the end of the episode: Once Carol learns about the hive\u2019s plans, we cut to a scene with Manousos back at the cul-de-sac where Carol lives. He\u2019s studying English and writing in his notebook about the hive. He looks up and sees a helicopter, piloted by Zosia with Carol in the passenger seat, carrying a large shipping container. Zosia drops off both Carol and the package and leaves. \u201cYou win,\u201d she tells Manousos. \u201cWe save the world.\u201d What\u2019s in the container?, you might wonder. It\u2019s an atom bomb.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjjft95d001x3b7aiy18g06l@published\" data-word-count=\"94\">\u201dAnd I don\u2019t know what she does with it, because I asked!\u201d Seehorn said. According to her, show creator Vince Gilligan, who was fond of writing himself into corners on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/tv\/breaking-bad\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Breaking Bad<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/tv\/better-call-saul\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Better Call Saul<\/a>, said he wasn\u2019t sure where Pluribus would head next either. But Seehorn is both baffled and excited about what Carol might do with that bomb. \u201cI\u2019ve gone through a lot of possibilities,\u201d she said. \u201cShe wouldn\u2019t kill everybody \u2014 that would be opposite to her point. Is she going to threaten them with it? And threaten them how?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjjftk4800223b7am7w1ghuh@published\" data-word-count=\"167\">There\u2019s also the question of how Carol will work with Manousos on her plan. Seehorn doesn\u2019t have an answer there, either, but she enjoyed the process of working with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-finale-carlos-manuel-vesga-manousos-backstory-english-translation.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Carlos Manuel Vesga<\/a> on the characters\u2019 long-awaited meetup. For much of the season, Carol has seen herself as stepping, reluctantly or just spitefully, into the position of a lone individual holding out against the hive. But when she meets Manousos, she discovers a person who has an even more radical position than her own. \u201cIt was a really interesting question to bring up for Carol: Oh, you think you\u2019re an extremist? What about this guy?\u201d Seehorn said. \u201cCarol\u2019s in a place where she is reminded that, however altered, these are still humans. He keeps saying, No, they\u2019re not even human. That\u2019s closer to what Carol was telling Laxmi when she said her son wasn\u2019t her son. But Manousos\u2019s extremism could be violent and without care. Carol cared from the beginning that she killed people by screaming and yelling.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjjfwu0700273b7ap0xbwgdb@published\" data-word-count=\"104\">The conversations between Carol and Manousos presented a tricky and exciting technical challenge, because the characters are speaking to each other through a handheld automatic translator, and the actors had to determine when exactly their characters might understand each other. \u201cCarlos Manuel speaks perfect English. I do not speak Spanish, but I\u2019ve rehearsed the scene enough times to know what he\u2019s saying,\u201d Seehorn says. \u201cWe both had to stop each other from picking up the cue, to not let your face react before we listened to the translator. But of course, they\u2019re both intelligent people, so there\u2019s still a few words they would understand.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjjfx803002c3b7atps6p0kd@published\" data-word-count=\"140\">In addition to those insights into the finale, Seehorn discussed some of the details Pluribus fans have fixated on throughout the first season. For one, she thinks Carol\u2019s dismissal of the readers of her sci-fi romance books, seen when Carol\u2019s introduced in that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-recap-season-1-episode-1-we-is-us-apple-tv.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">first episode<\/a>, has more to do with Carol\u2019s own self-destructive psychology than anything else. \u201cI find that most people that are writers have had no problem figuring out that she\u2019s not actually mocking her fans,\u201d Seehorn told me. \u201cI think she thinks she\u2019s very good at her work. She wouldn\u2019t frame her stuff all over the house and have copies of her books everywhere. But it is that idea of, I\u2019ll be successful when, I\u2019ll be happy when, I\u2019m an actual writer when. It\u2019s also being terrified of believing the hype, of beating everyone to the punch.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjjfy0jl002h3b7ayf8gg9sc@published\" data-word-count=\"194\">Seehorn was also involved in another crucial aspect of Carol: her hair. If you watched Better Call Saul, you\u2019ll remember the narrative importance of Kim Wexler\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/2018\/08\/better-call-saul-a-tribute-to-kim-wexlers-ponytail.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">perfectly tight ponytail<\/a>. For Pluribus, Seehorn felt it was important to differentiate the look of her new character. \u201cMy first thought when I got the first three scripts was that I\u2019m supposed to look dirty, wet, or greasy for a very long time, and if we\u2019re going to keep track of long hair through all of that, we\u2019re going to go insane,\u201d Seehorn said. She wanted to mark a stark difference between Kim and Carol and also allow herself to embrace a new hairstyle after so many years playing Kim. \u201cThere were still people that thought this was going to be a Kim Wexler spinoff,\u201d she says, so she went to Gilligan with the pitch that they lop off a lot of her hair. She liked the idea that Carol would have hair she could do up into something professional for her bookstore signings and was otherwise not fussy, yet still stylish. \u201cHe was like, \u2018I love it. Can I see the cut an inch at a time?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjjg2hg6002m3b7a8c1mhxi6@published\" data-word-count=\"107\">Eventually, the Pluribus team settled on the bob you see in the series, but there\u2019s still a fun Wexler-ish Easter egg in the way Seehorn\u2019s new hair is introduced. In the first scene with Carol, she\u2019s introduced in a dolly shot from behind, bob first. Seehorn says Pluribus\u2019s \u201cA\u201d camera operator Matt Credle, who filmed that shot and also worked on Saul, pointed out how much it resembled one of the many shots of Kim Wexler\u2019s ponytail they\u2019d filmed in the past. \u201cI got goosebumps when I saw it,\u201d Seehorn said. \u201cI hadn\u2019t thought about how clear it would be to an audience \u2014 the ponytail\u2019s gone.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>      <a class=\"see-all-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/tags\/pluribus\" aria-label=\"See All from More \u2018Pluribus\u2019\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n        See All<\/p>\n<p>      <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The Pluribus star explains her understanding \u2014 or lack thereof \u2014 of the season finale: \u201cI\u2019ve gone through&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":249649,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[265],"tags":[593,18,117,4174,19,17,96323,128,16008],"class_list":["post-249648","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-tv","tag-apple-tv","tag-eire","tag-entertainment","tag-finales","tag-ie","tag-ireland","tag-pluribus","tag-tv","tag-vulture-section-lede"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/115776054375665587","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/249648","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=249648"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/249648\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/249649"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=249648"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=249648"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=249648"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}