{"id":250176,"date":"2025-12-25T02:49:12","date_gmt":"2025-12-25T02:49:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/250176\/"},"modified":"2025-12-25T02:49:12","modified_gmt":"2025-12-25T02:49:12","slug":"elon-musk-backs-demis-hassabis-in-dispute-with-metas-yann-lecun-over-general-intelligence-says-google-deepmind-ceo-is-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/250176\/","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk Backs Demis Hassabis In Dispute With Meta&#8217;s Yann LeCun Over &#8216;General Intelligence,&#8217; Says Google DeepMind CEO Is &#8216;Right&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">On Monday, <strong>Tesla Inc.<\/strong> <a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/quote\/TSLA?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:(NASDAQ:;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\">(NASDAQ:<\/a><a class=\"link \" href=\"http:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=TSLA\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:TSLA;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" target=\"_blank\">TSLA<\/a>) CEO <strong>Elon Musk<\/strong> weighed in on an AI debate, siding with <strong>Alphabet Inc.&#8217;s<\/strong> <a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/quote\/GOOG?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:(NASDAQ:;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\">(NASDAQ:<\/a><a class=\"link \" href=\"http:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=GOOG\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:GOOG;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" target=\"_blank\">GOOG<\/a>) <a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/quote\/GOOGL?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:(NASDAQ:;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\">(NASDAQ:<\/a><a class=\"link \" href=\"http:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=GOOGL\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:GOOGL;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" target=\"_blank\">GOOGL<\/a>) <strong>Google DeepMind <\/strong>CEO<strong> Demis Hassabis<\/strong> after <strong>Meta Platforms, Inc.&#8217;s<\/strong> <a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/quote\/META?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:(NASDAQ:;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\">(NASDAQ:<\/a><a class=\"link \" href=\"http:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=META\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:META;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" target=\"_blank\">META<\/a>) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/markets\/tech\/25\/12\/49475353\/metas-outgoing-ai-chief-yann-lecun-eyes-3-4-billion-valuation-for-new-startup-in-talks-for-over-500-million-funding-report?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:outgoing AI chief;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">outgoing AI chief<\/a> <strong>Yann LeCun<\/strong> dismissed the idea of &#8220;general intelligence&#8221; as an illusion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">Musk amplified Hassabis&#8217; rebuttal to LeCun in a post on <strong>X<\/strong>, writing simply, &#8220;Demis is right,&#8221; throwing his support behind the DeepMind chief in a widening public dispute over whether artificial general intelligence, or AGI, is a meaningful concept.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">The exchange underscores growing divisions among leading AI researchers over how intelligence should be defined \u2014 and whether human intelligence itself can be considered &#8220;general.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"neo-blockquote yf-1lvgyjz\">\n<p class=\"yf-1lvgyjz\">Demis is right <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/cz02LbsySF\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:https:\/\/t.co\/cz02LbsySF;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">https:\/\/t.co\/cz02LbsySF<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\"><strong>Don&#8217;t Miss:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">Hassabis pushed back strongly against LeCun&#8217;s statement that there is &#8220;no such thing as general intelligence,&#8221; arguing that LeCun is conflating general intelligence with the idea of universal intelligence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">In a detailed post, Hassabis said human brains are among the most complex systems known and are, by design, highly general learning machines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">While acknowledging that no real-world system can escape some degree of specialization, he said the architecture of the human brain \u2014 much like modern AI foundation models \u2014 is capable of learning any computable task in theory, given sufficient time, memory and data.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">He added that humanity&#8217;s ability to invent chess, science and modern engineering, despite evolving for survival tasks like hunting and gathering, demonstrates the breadth of human intelligence rather than its limits.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"neo-blockquote yf-1lvgyjz\">\n<p class=\"yf-1lvgyjz\">Yann is just plain incorrect\u00a0here, he&#8217;s confusing general intelligence with universal intelligence.<\/p>\n<p>Brains are the most exquis\u200bite and complex phenomena we know of in the universe (so far), and they are in fact extremely general.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously one can&#8217;t circumvent the no free lunch\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/RjeqlaP7GO\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:https:\/\/t.co\/RjeqlaP7GO;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">https:\/\/t.co\/RjeqlaP7GO<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\"><strong>Trending: Deloitte&#8217;s #1 Fastest-Growing Software Company Lets Users Earn Money Just by Scrolling \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/money\/mode-mobile-2?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Accredited Investors Can Still Get In at $0.50\/Share.;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">Accredited Investors Can Still Get In at $0.50\/Share.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">LeCun also responded to Hassabis&#8217; criticism, saying the disagreement is largely semantic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">He objected to equating &#8220;general&#8221; with &#8220;human-level,&#8221; arguing that humans are deeply specialized systems optimized for efficiency in narrow domains.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">While conceding that the human brain is theoretically Turing complete, LeCun said it is highly inefficient for most computational problems under real-world constraints.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">He also argued that the brain can represent only a vanishingly small fraction of all possible functions, making true generality impossible in practice.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"neo-blockquote yf-1lvgyjz\">\n<p class=\"yf-1lvgyjz\">I think the disagreement is largely one of vocabulary.<br \/>I object to the use of &#8220;general&#8221; to designate &#8220;human level&#8221; because humans are extremely specialized.<\/p>\n<p>You may disagree that the human mind is specialized, but it really is. It&#8217;s not just a question of theoretical power but\u2026<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\"><strong>See Also: Missed Tesla? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/money\/energyx-2?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:EnergyX;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">EnergyX<\/a> Is Tackling the Next $200 Billion Opportunity \u2014 Lithium<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">The debate highlights a central fault line in AI research: whether AGI is an achievable goal or a misleading label.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">Previously, <strong>Salesforce Inc.<\/strong> <a class=\"link \" href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/quote\/CRM?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:(NYSE:;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\">(NYSE:<\/a><a class=\"link \" href=\"http:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=CRM\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-ylk=\"slk:CRM;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" target=\"_blank\">CRM<\/a>) CEO <strong>Marc Benioff<\/strong>, who is investing billions in AI, said the reality of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/markets\/tech\/25\/09\/47465362\/marc-benioff-isnt-sold-on-agi-hype-says-hes-extremely-suspect-despite-ai-shaping-salesforce-ahead-of-q2-earnings?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:AGI falls short of the hype;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">AGI falls short of the hype<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">On the other hand, Hassabis has earlier predicted that there is roughly a 50% chance that AGI emerges within the next five years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\"><strong>Anthropic<\/strong> co-founder <strong>Ben Mann<\/strong> has said AGI could be reached by 2028. <strong>OpenAI<\/strong> CEO <strong>Sam Altman <\/strong>has also suggested AGI could arrive during President <strong>Donald Trump&#8217;s<\/strong> term in office.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">Former Google CEO <strong>Eric Schmidt<\/strong> echoed that view at an April fireside chat, saying it is reasonable to expect AGI to emerge sometime between 2028 and 2030.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\"><strong>Read Next:<\/strong> <strong>$100k+ in investable assets? <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/money\/wiseradvisor-retirement-planning?nid=49588147&amp;utm_campaign=partner_feed&amp;utm_content=site&amp;utm_medium=partner_feed&amp;utm_source=yahooFinance\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Match with a fiduciary advisor for free to learn how you can maximize your retirement and save on taxes;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \"><strong>Match with a fiduciary advisor for free to learn how you can maximize your retirement and save on taxes<\/strong><\/a><strong> \u2013 no cost, no obligation.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">Photo Courtesy: Photo Agency on Shutterstock.com<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">UNLOCKED: 5 NEW TRADES EVERY WEEK. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/premium\/ideas\/benzinga-edge-checkout\/?t=be8be9spja3yaad2&amp;utm_source=yahoo\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Click now to get top trade ideas daily;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \"><strong>Click now to get top trade ideas daily<\/strong><\/a>, plus unlimited access to cutting-edge tools and strategies to gain an edge in the markets.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">Get the latest stock analysis from Benzinga:<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-7hmkaz\">This article <a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\/news\/25\/12\/49588147\/elon-musk-backs-demis-hassabis-in-dispute-with-metas-yann-lecun-over-general-intelligence-says-googl\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Elon Musk Backs Demis Hassabis In Dispute With Meta&#039;s Yann LeCun Over &#039;General Intelligence,&#039; Says Google DeepMind CEO Is &#039;Right&#039;;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">Elon Musk Backs Demis Hassabis In Dispute With Meta&#8217;s Yann LeCun Over &#8216;General Intelligence,&#8217; Says Google DeepMind CEO Is &#8216;Right&#8217;<\/a> originally appeared on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.benzinga.com\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Benzinga.com;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">Benzinga.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"On Monday, Tesla Inc. 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