{"id":253893,"date":"2025-12-27T10:51:13","date_gmt":"2025-12-27T10:51:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/253893\/"},"modified":"2025-12-27T10:51:13","modified_gmt":"2025-12-27T10:51:13","slug":"christy-moore-complained-about-questioning-at-holyhead-under-terror-laws-in-2004-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/253893\/","title":{"rendered":"Christy Moore complained about questioning at Holyhead under terror laws in 2004 \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Singer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/christy-moore\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/christy-moore\/\">Christy Moore<\/a> was detained and questioned by British police for hours at Holyhead in 2004 \u201cfor entertainment or curiosity value\u201d, the Department of Foreign Affairs complained to the head of British ports policing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In October, 2004, Moore and his driver were questioned under the Prevention of Terrorism Act at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wales\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wales\/\">Welsh<\/a> port by Britain\u2019s special branch police about song lyrics, personal details and family members as the pair made their way to a number of concerts in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/world\/uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/world\/uk\/\">Britain<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The singer later made a strongly-worded complaint, saying he had found the detectives\u2019 action \u201cthreatening\u201d, \u201cfrightening\u201d and \u201csaddening\u201d. He said it left him feeling as though he had been treated as a suspect.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Moore case featured prominently at a meeting between officials at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/department-of-foreign-affairs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/department-of-foreign-affairs\/\">Department of Foreign Affairs<\/a> and their counterparts at the British Home Office in December that year, according to records now released to the National Archives.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The meeting was called after a sharp rise in the number of complaints made that year over the treatment meted out to Irish people travelling through British ports and airports.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Three main areas of concern were raised by the Irish officials: the photographing of passengers without their knowledge, stops and examinations under the Terrorism Act 2000, and intrusive demands for personal information.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In Moore\u2019s \u201chigh-profile\u201d case, the Irish side said he had faced an inappropriate line of questioning and the examination room where he was held for two hours was locked after he arrived at Holyhead with his friend and driver, Michael Devine.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Eamonn McKee, an official for the Foreign Affairs Anglo-Irish Division at the time, questioned Commander Bob Milton \u2013 who was the UK\u2019s national co-ordinator of ports policing \u2013 about Moore\u2019s case.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">McKee brought up the issue of inappropriate lines of questioning and the damage that can be done should a person feel they are being questioned for entertainment or curiosity value. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Refusing to comment on individual cases, Milton spoke about the training problems that could occur with inexperienced officers, saying it was up to passengers to make complaints to local chief constables, who could decide on disciplinary action.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The note of the meeting stated: \u201cAs regards locking the room Mr Moore was detained in, Milton considered that it was up to the officer to decide whether it was necessary to lock an examination room based on whether the person was likely to leave. He did acknowledge that there could be a health-and-safety issue.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Irish officials made clear that their main complaint centred on the photographing of passengers, saying that people were unaware their images were being captured on the British side.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Defending the practice, the Home Office said it was standard at airports where there was a common departures area for international and domestic travellers, including those travelling between Ireland and Britain covered by the Common Travel Area (CTA).<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe CTA and domestic travellers are photographed, and a barcode stuck to their boarding cards so as to prevent any possibility of boarding cards being swapped after check-in,\u201d an Irish summary of the meeting records.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The photographs were stored for no longer than 48 hours, British officials insisted, but they accepted that there was greater need to display better information signs and to improve training. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The British officials accepted there was a need for \u201cbetter protocols\u201d to govern the stopping and examination of Irish air and ferry passengers under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Passengers should be able clearly to understand why they had been stopped, but also to have \u201creasonable expectations\u201d about how police should conduct any subsequent interviews, they agreed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They acknowledged that passengers who miss their flights because they were detained should be given a form that could be provided to an airline confirming that the person had been detained outside their control.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Defending the demands for personal information \u2013 which was known as \u201ccarding\u201d at the time \u2013 the British officials said it was a \u201cquick way of obtaining information without resorting to an examination\u201d. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Singer Christy Moore was detained and questioned by British police for hours at Holyhead in 2004 \u201cfor entertainment&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":253894,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[41],"tags":[9,10,40651,13,14,6,11,12,15,16,5,131506,7,8,65,66,67],"class_list":{"0":"post-253893","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-world","8":"tag-breaking-news","9":"tag-breakingnews","10":"tag-christy-moore","11":"tag-featured-news","12":"tag-featurednews","13":"tag-headlines","14":"tag-latest-news","15":"tag-latestnews","16":"tag-main-news","17":"tag-mainnews","18":"tag-news","19":"tag-state-papers","20":"tag-top-stories","21":"tag-topstories","22":"tag-world","23":"tag-world-news","24":"tag-worldnews"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/115791153416213635","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/253893","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=253893"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/253893\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/253894"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=253893"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=253893"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=253893"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}