{"id":255525,"date":"2025-12-28T11:17:25","date_gmt":"2025-12-28T11:17:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/255525\/"},"modified":"2025-12-28T11:17:25","modified_gmt":"2025-12-28T11:17:25","slug":"republican-no-go-areas-for-protestants-in-rural-northern-ireland-loyalists-claimed-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/255525\/","title":{"rendered":"Republican no-go areas for Protestants in rural Northern Ireland, loyalists claimed \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Republicans were trying to create \u201cno go\u201d areas for Protestants in rural parts of Northern Ireland, taoiseach Bertie Ahern was told when he brought leading loyalist figures to Dublin in 2003.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The loyalists were members of the Loyalist Commission, which was set up in the wake of the feud between Ulster Defence Association figure Johnny Adair against the Ulster Volunteer Force on the Shankill Road from 2000 to 2002.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The meeting, which was also attended by the Church of Ireland Archbishop of Armagh, Robin Eames, included the commission\u2019s chair, the grand secretary of the Orange Order, Mervyn Gibson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Insisting that republicans were bent on ethnic cleansing in a strategy \u201cthat went back to 1641\u201d, Bill McCaughey from North Antrim said republicans \u201cspoke the language of peace, but continued a campaign of low-level intimidation\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Welcoming the group to Dublin, Ahern said his own father had been \u201ca good rebel\u201d in his time, adding that he himself devoted so much time to Northern Ireland because he wanted to bring peace and stability there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He was, he told them, \u201cabsolutely sincere\u201d in his efforts to work with loyalists and others: \u201cWe could not change the past, but we respected different beliefs and traditions,\u201d he was recorded as saying.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Jim Wilson, who was then an Ulster Unionist Party Stormont MLA for East Belfast, said Sinn F\u00e9in \u201coperated a powerful propaganda machine\u201d that was able to set the narrative about Northern Ireland.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Dozens of loyalist families had had to quit their homes in Cluan Place in East Belfast next door to the Catholic-dominated Short Strand because of intimidation in 2002, but \u201cthis was never reported\u201d, he complained.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nothing had been done since the Belfast Agreement in 1998 to help communities such as Cluan Place: the tensions that had been on display in 2002 were \u201cworse than anything he had seen since 1969\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>`Sincerity\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Responding to the taoiseach, Jackie McDonald, then and now a significant figure in loyalist circles, said \u201cthe sincerity\u201d of his approach did not come across to the people in his community.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThey felt threatened, isolated and second-class. They believed that there was an iron triangle of the British and Irish governments and Sinn F\u00e9in working against them,\u201d he told Mr Ahern.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Replying, Ahern said he would not have collapsed the Stormont institutions in the way that the British government had done in the wake of the Stormontgate controversy, where it was alleged that an IRA spy ring operated inside Stormont.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He said he had asked voters in the Republic to give up Articles 2 and 3 of the Irish Constitution, but the devolved government in Stormont and the North\/South bodies that they were promised in return were nowhere to be seen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe loyalist community did not seem to appreciate that we had given away Articles 2 and 3 which were held dear by Irish people. He was not interested in running Northern Ireland, but he wanted North\/South bodies to work,\u201d a note records.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">However, Jim Wilson rejected Ahern\u2019s argument. Articles 2 and 3 \u201cshould not have been there in the first place\u201d, he said, while from the perspective of loyalists the Belfast Agreement \u201cwas all green, white and gold\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ken Wilkinson, a former member of the Ulster Volunteer Force who died in 2021, said loyalists felt that their communities were being eroded: \u201cBlue, red and white was seen as sectarian, but green, white and gold was called culture,\u201d the note goes on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The group questioned why the killers of Royal Ulster Constabulary and British Army soldiers in Northern Ireland had been released, while the IRA members who killed Det Gda Jerry McCabe in Adare, Co Limerick in 1996 remained in jail.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Replying, Ahern said the men, who were then being held in Castlerea jail, had been \u201cdisowned\u201d by the IRA and \u201cwere treated for what they were \u2013 bandits operating in Limerick who shot two Garda detectives\u201d.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Republicans were trying to create \u201cno go\u201d areas for Protestants in rural parts of Northern Ireland, taoiseach Bertie&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":255526,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[40],"tags":[9,10,18,13,14,6,19,17,11,12,15,16,5,131506,7,8],"class_list":{"0":"post-255525","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-ireland","8":"tag-breaking-news","9":"tag-breakingnews","10":"tag-eire","11":"tag-featured-news","12":"tag-featurednews","13":"tag-headlines","14":"tag-ie","15":"tag-ireland","16":"tag-latest-news","17":"tag-latestnews","18":"tag-main-news","19":"tag-mainnews","20":"tag-news","21":"tag-state-papers","22":"tag-top-stories","23":"tag-topstories"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/115796918364818064","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/255525","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=255525"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/255525\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/255526"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=255525"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=255525"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=255525"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}