{"id":258514,"date":"2025-12-30T18:57:10","date_gmt":"2025-12-30T18:57:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/258514\/"},"modified":"2025-12-30T18:57:10","modified_gmt":"2025-12-30T18:57:10","slug":"europe-criticised-for-leaving-young-citizens-trapped-in-syria-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/258514\/","title":{"rendered":"Europe criticised for leaving young citizens trapped in Syria \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In an upstairs room in a remote and guarded property in northeast <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/syria\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/syria\/\">Syria<\/a> last February, Hamza Ben Abd leaned forward, his hood up, as he began to rap:<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe worries are many and never end<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I grew up carrying burdens on my head<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I didn\u2019t grow up like others,<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I grew up in a foreign land &#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I\u2019ve seen marginalisation from all sides<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I cried until I had no more tears left to cry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Then aged 22, the French citizen \u2013 who has also had his name spelled as Amza Benabed \u2013 said he had been in custody since he was 15, after he left  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/islamic-state\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/islamic-state\/\">Islamic State<\/a> territory. \u201cI don\u2019t know when I\u2019m going to go out of this nightmare,\u201d Ben Abd said. \u201cIt\u2019s been seven years with no contact with the French embassy and I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m going to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He was a child when he was taken to  Islamic State territory with his siblings by his mother \u2013 though his parents were separated at the time and his father stayed in France. He says his mother later died: \u201cI love her, I miss her &#8230; but I\u2019m paying the price for the huge mistake she made.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nearly seven years after its fighters made a final stand in Syria, tens of thousands of people accused of affiliation with Islamic State (also known as IS) are still incarcerated in prisons and camps across the country\u2019s semi-autonomous northeast. Some have been held completely incommunicado since. Panorama prison, which The Irish Times visited this year, has been described as \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/world\/middle-east\/2025\/03\/01\/guantanamo-on-steroids-inside-a-prison-for-suspected-islamic-state-members-in-syria\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/world\/middle-east\/2025\/03\/01\/guantanamo-on-steroids-inside-a-prison-for-suspected-islamic-state-members-in-syria\/\" target=\"_blank\">Guant\u00e1namo on steroids<\/a>,\u201d due to factors including the lack of a judicial process for detainees. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A major issue is what will happen to children whose parents brought them to Syria or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/iraq\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/iraq\/\">Iraq<\/a> when they were still very young \u2013 with lawyers accusing some western countries of washing their hands of their own citizens.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Boys in the Orkesh rehabilitation centre in northern Syria. \" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/RQMNVSNJIJGUFF2TYL2FVVV2VY.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>Boys in the Orkesh rehabilitation centre in northern Syria.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Following a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ohchr.org\/sites\/default\/files\/documents\/issues\/terrorism\/sr\/statements\/EoM-Visit-to-Syria-20230721.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.ohchr.org\/sites\/default\/files\/documents\/issues\/terrorism\/sr\/statements\/EoM-Visit-to-Syria-20230721.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">2023 trip<\/a> to the region, Fionnuala N\u00ed Aol\u00e1in, the former <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-nations\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-nations\/\">United Nations<\/a> special rapporteur on the protection of human rights while countering terrorism, said she was \u201cmost profoundly concerned by the mass indefinite arbitrary detention of children &#8230; premised on the alleged threat they pose to security and based on their \u2013 or their parents \u2013 alleged prior links to [Islamic State].\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cStates of nationality have a sustained obligation to repatriate their nationals held in multiple detention facilities in northeast Syria,\u201d she wrote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In November, she told  The Irish Times that \u201cchildren remain punished for the sins of their parents, ending up in a \u201cblack legal hole\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Irish Times met and interviewed Ben Abd in the Orkesh centre last February, near the city of Qamishli.  About 145 boys and young men were being held there, often after being removed from their families. Local authorities say this is for their protection, though these forced separations have also been <a href=\"https:\/\/news.un.org\/en\/story\/2023\/07\/1138972\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/news.un.org\/en\/story\/2023\/07\/1138972\" target=\"_blank\">heavily criticised<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>French national Hamza Ben Abd (23), whose mother joined ISIS in Syria when he was still a child, performs a rap about his life experience. Video: Sally Hayden <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Those taken were actively going through a deradicalisation programme, but there was little planned for what would happen next. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Welat Salah (32), a staff member at Orkesh, said the biggest challenge comes once they turn 18. \u201cIt doesn\u2019t make sense to bring them to the camp or prison: the answer is to repatriate them.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He said they had up to 20 Europeans, including dual nationals, in the centre. \u201cMaybe I can deliver a message that we need to help these children, they are innocent victims,\u201d he said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Instead, Ben Abd has since been transferred to Iraq, where he is believed to be now imprisoned indefinitely in dire conditions his lawyer believes will eventually kill him. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Originally from Toulouse, Ben Abd <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KAIU04_LPC8\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KAIU04_LPC8\" target=\"_blank\">told<\/a> a film-maker that he was a child fighter \u2013 one of what Islamic State called the \u201ccubs of the caliphate\u201d \u2013 and that he trained and fought with Islamic State for a few months. He also appeared in a 2014 propaganda video glorifying French jihadist and killer Mohammed Merah, when he was 11 years old.<b> <\/b>The video shows two small children walking down a street, carrying Kalashnikovs and answering questions including where in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/france\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/france\/\">France<\/a> they come from.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ben Abd said he eventually tried to escape Islamic State territory himself, but was wounded by a mine. He still has injuries to his head, is blind in his left eye and his shoulder is broken. He<b> <\/b>cannot get the operation he needs to fix it. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ben Abd said in February that he was willing to go through the French justice process, even if it led to his imprisonment. \u201cI\u2019d rather be in prison in France than here,\u201d he said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">All of his living family are in France, he added, including a sister who was repatriated from Syria in 2019. \u201cI would go back to France running &#8230; I just want to live my life as a normal person.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Clothes belonging to boys in the Okresh rehabilitation facility in northern Syria are hung out to dry. Photograph: Sally Hayden\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BHVOK3Q4NJEYBLQA6O3EGWPJTM.jpeg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>Clothes belonging to boys in the Okresh rehabilitation facility in northern Syria are hung out to dry. Photograph: Sally Hayden <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A staff member with the NGO Purity, which has worked on rehabilitation programmes in the Orkesh centre, said the prior teaching some of the boys and young men underwent is troubling \u2013 \u201chow to fight, how to kill, how to behead\u201d. He is worried some might be waiting for \u201ca revival\u201d of Islamic State \u2013 but \u201ckeeping those children here without any future, it\u2019s not the right thing to do\u201d. He said the young people need vocational training, and, most ideally, repatriation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">As a humanitarian organisation \u201cwe deal with them as victims\u201d as they \u201chaven\u2019t been in any legal process or court,\u201d said the man, who did not want to be named for fear of reprisals. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">When asked about Ben Abd\u2019s case by The Irish Times last April, a French diplomatic source said it did not comment on personal situations but agreed \u201cFrench children have not chosen to join a terrorist organisation.\u201d The source said France had organised \u201cseveral complex repatriation operations\u201d since 2019 but \u201cthis is a war zone which France has no control over\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The source said all French women or mothers of French children remaining in detention camps were offered to return to France with their children. However, the source did not specify the policies around French children who have since reached the age of 18, and authorities did not respond to a more recent request for comment. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">This month, a French court ordered the country to re-examine the situation of Ben Abd and two other young men within two months.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Lawyer Marie Dose said she had been requesting their repatriation for years. \u201cThe French authorities are fully aware of the catastrophic situation in which they are being held. France continues to ignore my requests and refuses to respond to them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">She said she believes a 2022 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/european-court-of-human-rights\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/european-court-of-human-rights\/\">European Court of Human Rights<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/hudoc.echr.coe.int\/fre#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-219333%22]}\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/hudoc.echr.coe.int\/fre#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-219333%22]}\">legal ruling<\/a>, which condemned France for failing to justify the non-repatriation of women and children linked to Islamic State in northeast Syria, \u201cmust also apply to young adults &#8230; Otherwise, what would that mean? That it would be sufficient to abandon all these children in camps and prisons until they reach adulthood, only to then claim that this ruling no longer applies to them because they are no longer minors?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">This is \u201cgross inhumanity\u201d by France, she said. \u201cYoung adults who were taken to Syria at the age of 10 or 11 are being made to pay for the deadly choices of their parents. They are victims \u2013 nothing but victims.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">N\u00ed Aol\u00e1in said there are no definitive numbers on how many European young people are detained in northeast Syria, but there used to be four French citizens in the Orkesh centre. One was repatriated, according to Dose. Of the others, Youssef Boudouaia is \u201cin a catastrophic condition\u201d, the lawyer said, while Adem Clain \u2013 the son of Fabien Clain, the French jihadist who claimed responsibility for the 2015 Paris attacks \u2013 has been moved to Alaya Prison in Qamishli. Adem Clain has previously <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KAIU04_LPC8\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KAIU04_LPC8\" target=\"_blank\">said<\/a> that he considers his father a terrorist and remains angry at him. Adem Clain was never in combat, according to both him and the Kurdish authorities. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Of the three young men, Boudouaia, \u201cwhom France has quite literally abandoned, and whose family was repatriated without him, is the most severely affected. He is going to die, and this is not my assessment; it is what the guards at the Orkesh centre say. He suffers repeated epileptic seizures, is disabled, and can barely walk. I do not know how he is still alive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Dose said that Ben Abd faints very frequently, but was kept going by the hope of finally returning to France. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Instead, 47 of the 51 French nationals imprisoned in Syria were transferred to Iraq last summer, joining 12 French nationals who had been sentenced to death, commuted to life imprisonment in Iraq \u201cfollowing sham trials,\u201d she said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIraq knows nothing about Hamza, has never investigated him, and [his expected] trial will necessarily be a sham.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Human rights organisations have previously criticised <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hrw.org\/news\/2018\/10\/31\/us-detainees-transferred-syria-iraq\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.hrw.org\/news\/2018\/10\/31\/us-detainees-transferred-syria-iraq\" target=\"_blank\">similar transfers<\/a>, with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/human-rights-watch\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/human-rights-watch\/\">Human Rights Watch<\/a> saying that international law \u201cprohibits the transfer of detainees to countries where they are at serious risk of torture and mistreatment\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Dose said Ben Abd\u2019s mother has been extensively investigated by French counterterrorism prosecutors, and there is an arrest warrant for Ben Abd. If repatriated he would be put under formal investigation and held in pretrial detention for deeds he might have carried out while still a minor. \u201cYet even [with] that, France denies him, preferring instead to see him tortured in Iraq &#8230; It is pitiful, and of an extraordinary cruelty.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">She said Ben Abd\u2019s transfer to Iraq was carried out with the approval of France. In Iraq, she said, \u201cI have seen the conditions in which the men are detained: they are crammed together like animals, receive no medical care and are subjected to violence. Hamza will suffer the same fate.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Of the young men, Dose said: \u201cThey will eventually all die, and one is led to believe that this is precisely what France hopes for.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Before his transfer to Iraq, Ben Abd was still practising French with the other French citizens being held in Orkesh centre, and writing raps. His raps were about \u201cthe misery, all the suffering I went through. Daesh [Islamic State] have taken everything from me, they stole my past and stole my future. Now France is holding me responsible,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In an upstairs room in a remote and guarded property in northeast Syria last February, Hamza Ben Abd&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":258515,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[41],"tags":[9,10,51949,13,14,2220,6,2122,40488,127680,11,12,15,16,5,15516,7,8,2863,65,66,67],"class_list":{"0":"post-258514","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-world","8":"tag-breaking-news","9":"tag-breakingnews","10":"tag-european-court-of-human-rights","11":"tag-featured-news","12":"tag-featurednews","13":"tag-france","14":"tag-headlines","15":"tag-human-rights-watch","16":"tag-iraq","17":"tag-islamic-state","18":"tag-latest-news","19":"tag-latestnews","20":"tag-main-news","21":"tag-mainnews","22":"tag-news","23":"tag-syria","24":"tag-top-stories","25":"tag-topstories","26":"tag-united-nations-un","27":"tag-world","28":"tag-world-news","29":"tag-worldnews"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/115810051253351653","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/258514","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=258514"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/258514\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/258515"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=258514"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=258514"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=258514"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}