{"id":30127,"date":"2025-08-29T05:08:21","date_gmt":"2025-08-29T05:08:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/30127\/"},"modified":"2025-08-29T05:08:21","modified_gmt":"2025-08-29T05:08:21","slug":"nigel-farages-immigration-bombshell-raises-nationalist-hopes-and-unionist-fears-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/30127\/","title":{"rendered":"Nigel Farage\u2019s immigration bombshell raises nationalist hopes and unionist fears \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/nigel-farage\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/nigel-farage\/\">Nigel Farage<\/a> has clearly not been giving <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/northern-ireland\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/northern-ireland\/\">Northern Ireland<\/a> much thought.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/reform-uk\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/reform-uk\/\">Reform UK<\/a> leader launched his party\u2019s plan to deal with illegal <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/immigration\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/immigration\/\">immigration<\/a> at a flashy press conference on Tuesday morning.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Entitled \u201cOperation Restoring Justice\u201d, it promises to deport 600,000 people within five years. The first two steps of the plan are to leave the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/european-convention-of-human-rights-echr\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/european-convention-of-human-rights-echr\/\">European Convention on Human Rights<\/a> (ECHR) and repeal the Human Rights Act, which applies it in domestic law. A British Bill of Rights would take its place.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Neither Farage nor the launch document addressed the convention\u2019s role in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/belfast-agreement\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/belfast-agreement\/\">Belfast Agreement<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Asked about this by a journalist, the Reform leader replied: \u201cCan we renegotiate the Good Friday Agreement to get the ECHR out of it? Yes. Is that something that can happen very, very quickly? No, it will take longer. It will take longer. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cSo unfortunately, and for a variety of reasons \u2013 previous governments have placed Northern Ireland, I\u2019m afraid, in a different position to the rest of the United Kingdom, something that we vigorously opposed \u2013 it will take a little bit longer with Northern Ireland.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Subtler answers to this question were available.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Belfast Agreement requires the convention to be \u201cincorporated into Northern Ireland law\u201d. Whenever the Conservative Party proposes fiddling with the UK\u2019s rights architecture, as it has done regularly for a decade, a debate takes place on whether the Human Rights Act could be left in force in Northern Ireland alone and still meet the terms of the Belfast Agreement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/world\/uk\/2025\/08\/26\/reform-uk-announces-plan-to-repeal-human-rights-laws-and-deport-all-asylum-seekers\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Reform UK announces plan to repeal human rights laws and deport all asylum seekersOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Nigel Farage speaks on stage during the Reform UK deportations policy announcement. Photograph: Leon Neal\/ Getty Images\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/OUJE5BQWCJUWMLNBTEL2JUGT2I.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>Nigel Farage speaks on stage during the Reform UK deportations policy announcement. Photograph: Leon Neal\/ Getty Images <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Most legal experts argue the UK would have to remain a member of the convention to ensure citizens in Northern Ireland could continue to have ultimate recourse to the European Court of Human Rights at Strasbourg and its evolving rulings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">But the purpose of incorporation is to no longer have to go to Strasbourg. The UK Supreme Court could continue fulfilling that role for Northern Ireland. That would still leave concerns about a human rights \u201csea border\u201d and a backdoor for immigration into Britain. Such a sea border has already been created by the Windsor Framework, however, to nationalist delight and unionist resignation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The possibility of an immigration back door arose during the short-lived Rwanda deportation scheme. The then-Conservative government lost a court case over this in Belfast last year. It was planning to appeal on the grounds that immigration has never been devolved so it is not covered by the rights protected by the Belfast Agreement. The government fell before the appeal could be heard.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Farage could have alluded to any of this on Tuesday. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Instead, he casually dropped a bombshell about renegotiating the Belfast Agreement at length and thus presumably in depth. His remarks immediately raised nationalist hopes and unionist fears about a Reform government holding a Border poll or dumping Northern Ireland altogether.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">While Farage\u2019s reference to wanting the same rights law across the UK reveals unionist instincts, having to be prompted on the subject shows it is hardly his priority.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Unionists might consider this all hypothetical, as Reform is a long way from power. Westminster\u2019s first-past-the-post system is a formidable obstacle to any new party.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/world\/uk\/2025\/08\/27\/tory-scottish-parliamentarian-defects-to-farages-reform-uk\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Tory Scottish parliamentarian defects to Farage\u2019s Reform UKOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nationalists need to be careful about scorning immigration plans that could attract cross-community sympathy. Renegotiating the Belfast Agreement could also be popular if it is portrayed as opening the way to Stormont reform.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">But unionism still faces a hard new political reality if Northern Ireland comes to be seen in Britain as an obstacle to controlling immigration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The public mood on this issue is febrile. Reform is trying to keep up with it, rather than leading it. Other parties will now try to follow Reform. There may be little time to muse on the nuisance of the Belfast Agreement before people will demand simple answers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Unionism could counter this with the argument that the convention could be left in Northern Ireland law alone. However, it would be wise to consider a more assertive response to Farage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Why is it necessary to leave the ECHR to tackle immigration?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Other member states are implementing tough policies by using opt-outs, exemptions and emergency declarations, or just by defying Strasbourg. Italy and Denmark are leading a group of nine member states calling for reform of the convention. Why not join them?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/world\/uk\/2025\/08\/05\/the-truth-is-out-there-how-many-disgruntled-ex-tories-can-nigel-farages-reform-uk-swallow\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The truth is out there: how many disgruntled ex-Tories can Nigel Farage\u2019s Reform UK swallow?Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"A Reform UK pamphlet ahead of the party's deportations policy announcement on August 26th. Photograph: Leon Neal\/ Getty Images\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/NSEGKXJIZ5UKO5QEL5ADT6LATY.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>A Reform UK pamphlet ahead of the party&#8217;s deportations policy announcement on August 26th. Photograph: Leon Neal\/ Getty Images <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Membership of the convention is required by the UK\u2019s trade deal with the EU, which Reform claims it wants to strengthen. Why is there no mention of this in Operation Restoring Justice?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Unionists could accuse Farage of repeating the fundamental mistake of Brexit: blaming the UK\u2019s stagnation on continental institutions instead of the establishment at home. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Leaving the EU has revealed that the metropolitan blob, not Brussels, is the cause of everything he despises. Leaving the ECHR would be no different.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">But that would be tricky argument for unionism to make. The DUP in particular bought so heavily into Farage\u2019s Brexit vision it would effectively end up ridiculing itself.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Nigel Farage has clearly not been giving Northern Ireland much thought. 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