{"id":34212,"date":"2025-08-31T06:22:10","date_gmt":"2025-08-31T06:22:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/34212\/"},"modified":"2025-08-31T06:22:10","modified_gmt":"2025-08-31T06:22:10","slug":"student-who-got-maximum-leaving-cert-points-loses-out-on-course-over-random-selection-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/34212\/","title":{"rendered":"student who got maximum Leaving Cert points loses out on course over random selection \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A Dublin student who achieved eight H1s and anticipated \u201cno problem\u201d in securing their first choice has said they are devastated after losing out to the \u201csick, inhumane\u201d random selection process.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">After achieving the highest possible grade in each subject and securing the maximum 625 points, the student said their \u201cheart sank\u201d on Wednesday when offers were issued by the Central Applications Office (CAO).<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The student had hoped to study management science and information systems studies at Trinity College Dublin, a highly sought-after course and one of just two nationwide that required both maximum points and random selection.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In total, places on 25 level-eight courses in high demand nationwide were allocated using random selection.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">On opening their results, \u201cmy very first thought was that I should have no problem getting my top choice in the CAO\u201d, the student said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/education\/2025\/08\/27\/cao-offers-2025-random-selection-used-for-two-maximum-points-courses-this-year\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">CAO offers 2025: Students angry as some lose out on places due to \u2018cruel\u2019 random selectionOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Instead, the student was offered their second choice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cKnowing that all these years of intense, hard work were shattered by an outdated, cruel and completely unfair place-allocation system was simply heartbreaking. Nobody\u2019s future should be decided by a lottery.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The student, who wished to remain anonymous, said it was \u201cshocking\u201d to learn they had missed out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt did not seem real at first. Working extremely hard day and night to achieve something for six years straight, only for it to get taken away by a lottery using randomly generated numbers was absolutely devastating.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The student subsequently discovered that some accepted to the course achieved six H1s in contrast to their eight.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe lottery system is sick, inhumane and disadvantageous for so many high-achieving students,\u201d they said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Amid lowering grade inflation, they expected the use of random selection to be less common this year, though there was no change in the number of courses using it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They added this was on top of competing with Leaving Cert students from previous years who applied through the CAO in 2025, having benefited from higher grade inflation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt feels like the Irish education system has failed me instead of fostering me. It took me in and spat me right back out again after all the hard work.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Although they were offered their second preference, they said one of the advantages of their first choice was being surrounded by \u201clike-minded, high-achieving individuals\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI could have received all H2s and still made the requirements for my second choice. What was all the hard work to achieve high results for?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The chances of being offered the course on a subsequent round of offers were \u201cslim\u201d, they said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere is no way of knowing how many candidates are awaiting a place in my course. We are all left to blindly hope that a place will appear.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The student\u2019s parent said that, despite years of hard work, extracurricular projects, awards and recognitions, they have been \u201clet down\u201d by the system, describing it as \u201cdeeply unfair\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They noted that their child was \u201cdoubly disadvantaged\u201d as they competed with others \u201cwho they might not have been in competition with if not for upward grade adjustment\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWhen you get 95 or 100 per cent in a subject, you don\u2019t benefit from grade adjustment,\u201d they said. They added that \u201cthe system punished those who do best\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Orla Sheils, Trinity\u2019s vice-provost, said on Wednesday there was \u201creally no fair way of solving the problem when students present on equal marks\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">While welcoming the reduction in Leaving Cert grade inflation, she said it was \u201cregrettable that the effects of this gradual unwinding will continue for a number of years to come\u201d.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A Dublin student who achieved eight H1s and anticipated \u201cno problem\u201d in securing their first choice has said&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":34213,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[40],"tags":[9,10,14331,18,13,14,6,19,17,11,12,12550,15,16,5,7,8,63],"class_list":{"0":"post-34212","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-ireland","8":"tag-breaking-news","9":"tag-breakingnews","10":"tag-cao","11":"tag-eire","12":"tag-featured-news","13":"tag-featurednews","14":"tag-headlines","15":"tag-ie","16":"tag-ireland","17":"tag-latest-news","18":"tag-latestnews","19":"tag-leaving-certificate","20":"tag-main-news","21":"tag-mainnews","22":"tag-news","23":"tag-top-stories","24":"tag-topstories","25":"tag-trinity-college-dublin-tcd"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34212","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=34212"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34212\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/34213"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=34212"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=34212"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=34212"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}