{"id":464739,"date":"2026-05-02T09:43:10","date_gmt":"2026-05-02T09:43:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/464739\/"},"modified":"2026-05-02T09:43:10","modified_gmt":"2026-05-02T09:43:10","slug":"roisin-ingle-what-is-the-beatles-the-23-year-old-asked-i-thought-i-heard-her-wrong-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/464739\/","title":{"rendered":"R\u00f3is\u00edn Ingle: \u2018What is the Beatles?\u2019 the 23-year-old asked. I thought I heard her wrong \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">On a recent trip to London I made a new friend. At 23, Z is a lot younger than me, which means I have much to learn from her. Before coming to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/london\/3\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/london\/3\/\">London<\/a> to study she lived in several countries \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/pakistan\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/pakistan\/\">Pakistan<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/afghanistan\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/afghanistan\/\">Afghanistan<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/india\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/india\/\">India<\/a> \u2013 and to talk to her is to travel borders, taste cultures and generally have your world enhanced. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A mutual friend put us in touch, and  we arranged to meet in a cafe in Notting Hill. This cafe was so hipster it didn\u2019t serve oat milk and the owner looked at my teenage daughters witheringly when they asked. This may be the future of hipster coffee joints. No choice instead of endless choice. We can only dream. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Z\u2019s background is fascinating and infuriating. Her family has experienced exile and authoritarianism alongside a deep love of country and rich cultural influences. She speaks like someone much older and has a grasp of geopolitics that would put many of us to shame. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">She moved to London on a student visa from Delhi. We talked about India and I told her I\u2019d spent some time there, years ago. She wanted to know where I\u2019d been. I recalled trips to Tamil Nadu and Karnataka, Lucknow and Mumbai, and then I tried to remember the name of a place in the north where I\u2019d spent a couple of happy weeks meditating and watching monkeys harass people crossing a picturesque bridge across the Ganges. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It annoyed me that I couldn\u2019t remember. \u201cYou know the place,\u201d I told her. \u201cIt\u2019s where <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/the-beatles\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/the-beatles\/\">The Beatles<\/a> went with their guru, the Maharishi, when they discovered Transcendental Meditation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Z looked at me blankly. Which at first I thought was understandable. A 23-year-old might not know about the Maharishi or Transcendental Meditation. They might not be aware that The Beatles followed him over to India, eventually becoming disillusioned with their bearded guru while writing nearly 50 songs by the sacred river in \u2013 ah, I remember now, Rishikesh! \u2013 including classics such as Dear Prudence and Julia. I tried to explain this part of Beatles lore. But it wasn\u2019t the Maharishi part Z was struggling with. \u201cWhat is The Beatles?\u201d she asked, a quizzical look in her intelligent eyes. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">What is The Beatles? The question arrived like a whack on the head from Maxwell\u2019s Silver Hammer. Bear in mind, Z was asking this of somebody who has a WhatsApp group called Get Back, which exists solely for Beatles discourse and to plan trips based around The Beatles. The three of us members have had Beatles-themed excursions in Liverpool and London and are  planning one to Hamburg. \u201cWhat is The Beatles?\u201d \u2018What is the stars, Joxer?\u2019 I thought. \u2018What is the stars?\u2019 <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">At first I imagined I heard Z wrong. I got my phone out. I showed her photos of the band grinning in all their mop-top glory. \u201cLook, you know, The Beatles? John and Paul,\u201d I said. \u201cRingo and George.\u201d Z shook her head. She had no knowledge of these people. \u201cLennon? McCartney?\u201d I tried. Nothing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Suddenly I was in the middle of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/film\/yesterday-a-musical-fairy-tale-set-in-a-world-with-no-beatles-1.3937139\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/film\/yesterday-a-musical-fairy-tale-set-in-a-world-with-no-beatles-1.3937139\">Yesterday<\/a>, a film written by Richard Curtis, which posits the notion of a universe where The Beatles have never existed. A man has an accident on his bike in the middle of an electrical storm and emerges from it only to encounter a world untouched by Help! or Hey Jude or A Hard Day\u2019s Night or All You Need Is Love. He\u2019s the only person on earth who knows about the band or who has heard their music. It was a fab idea for a film. Imagine, there\u2019s no Beatles. It\u2019s not easy even if you try.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/life-style\/people\/2026\/03\/04\/im-missing-some-teeth-but-i-cant-stop-laughing-or-grinning\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">I\u2019m missing some teeth but I can\u2019t stop laughing or grinningOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I had a sort of out-of-body experience during this moment with Z in a hipster coffee joint where my daughters were having to imagine a world without oat milk. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">And I thought of Z at my sister Rachael\u2019s birthday party in her sun-drenched garden last week. There was a 1960s theme and I was the DJ \u2013 by which I mean I had my phone and a music app and a Bluetooth speaker. Even apart from The Beatles, when you are DJing a party using music from the decade with very few duds, you realise most 1960s tunes are bangers. I\u2019m looking forward to experiencing a momentous cultural exchange with Z over the next while, where she educates me further about the Taliban and I watch her fall in love with The Beatles. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For starters, I was tasked with choosing which Beatles song she should listen to first. What a task. I consulted my Get Backers. As I watched my lovely sister do the twist in her charity shop flower-power dress, we decided Z\u2019s introduction to The Beatles would start with a sublime tune, a song so good that, as writer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/damien-owens\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/damien-owens\/\">Damien Owens<\/a> once pointed out, it\u2019s astonishing when you consider it was written by only the band\u2019s third-best songwriter. It\u2019s also a song that feels apt as we welcome in the new month of May. Play it loud. Play it as though, like Z, you\u2019re hearing it for the very first time: Here Comes The Sun. Here it comes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"On a recent trip to London I made a new friend. 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