{"id":511956,"date":"2026-05-31T17:20:17","date_gmt":"2026-05-31T17:20:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/511956\/"},"modified":"2026-05-31T17:20:17","modified_gmt":"2026-05-31T17:20:17","slug":"drawing-mouths-not-saying-the-right-words-the-daily-cartoonist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/511956\/","title":{"rendered":"Drawing Mouths, Not Saying the Right Words \u2013 The Daily Cartoonist"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>      <a href=\"\/#comments\" aria-label=\"Skip to comments\" class=\"skip-link screen-reader-text\">Skip to comments<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Each week my ADHD brain finds some comic-related things on social media that must be chased down. There were several this week. Due to scheduling conflicts with some top-tier subject matter experts, I had to push two topics to next week. This week we chase two rabbits: how do artists draw character\u2019s mouths based on the dialogue in the script, and I try to be very nice when discussing Pedro \u201cnice as he seems\u201d Pascal\u2019s habit of omitting credit to the cartoonist who was very nice to him.<\/p>\n<p>Watch Your Mouth<\/p>\n<p>I came across a post on Bluesky from <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/evandorkin.bsky.social\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Evan Dorkin<\/a><\/strong> opining on <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/evandorkin.bsky.social\/post\/3mmrjjqrfkk2b\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">drawing a character\u2019s mouth when speaking dialogue<\/a>. He wrote\u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\" wp_automatic_readability=\"10\">\n<p>When I say characters\u2019 mouths should be drawn open more often when speaking dialogue I want to make two things clear. One, it\u2019s my opinion. Two, I\u2019m not saying it means drawing exaggerated expressions like I tend to do. Every style has a \u201cmouth range\u201d. IMO closed mouth in almost every panel is DOA.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>That prompted <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/mckelvie.bsky.social\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jamie McKelvie<\/a><\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/mckelvie.bsky.social\/post\/3mmrqo2e2kc2a\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">to post\u2026<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\" wp_automatic_readability=\"5\">\n<p>I try to draw specific syllables from the dialogue \u2013 not sure if anyone but me notices though.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"330\" height=\"312\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/giphy.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-113293\"  \/>(My brain\u2019s response)<\/p>\n<p>to which <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/schweizercomics.bsky.social\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Chris Schweizer<\/a><\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/schweizercomics.bsky.social\/post\/3mmrto3ov6k2s\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">chimed in\u2026<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\" wp_automatic_readability=\"13\">\n<p>Depending on balloon placement (i.e. whether it\u2019s gonna be read before you see the face or after) I\u2019ll specifically correlate it with first or last syllable, IF that syllable creates a specific mouth shape (many don\u2019t, any open mouth is fine, but EE, OO, AH, etc require specific shapes).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/now-youre-just-showing-off-jesse-mills-ezgif.com-resize.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-113297\"  \/>(My brain\u2019s response)<\/p>\n<p>From my own experience, I\u2019ve always drawn a speaker\u2019s mouth open, but drawing the mouth\u2019s shape to conform to specific syllables? That was definitely not in the comic strip or editorial cartooning manual when I cut my teeth. I tried to do a quantitative loosy-goosy scientific analysis to find what cartoonists do with their mouths\u2014on paper. I selected five random comics from the following platforms: Comics Kingdom, GoComics, Webtoons, Marvel (free issues), and Hoopla and tried to sort out the different approaches to giving characters a voice.<\/p>\n<p>Findings<\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking most artists\u2019 approach fell into four categories with a fifth outlier\u2014a pandemic era Marvel comic saluting first responders and the medical community. All of the characters in that comic were wearing face masks or personal protective equipment. The only character with a visible mouth was an unfortunate covid victim gasping for air. It was a very well drawn pantomime of a person suffocating for whatever that\u2019s worth. Here\u2019s the general categories rounded to nearest whole number:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Mixed. Open mouths, smiling, closed mouths \u2013 13%<\/li>\n<li>Open Mouth\u2014same shape regardless of character or dialog \u2013 42%<\/li>\n<li>Open Mouth\u2014different shapes per expression, but not per syllables \u2013 42%<\/li>\n<li>Open Mouth\u2014shapes based on words or syllables \u2013 4%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Only one comic \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hoopladigital.com\/comic\/invincible-compendium-two-robert-kirkman\/15954065\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Invincible Compendium Two<\/a>\u201d drawn by <strong>Ryan Otley<\/strong> and <strong>Cory Walker<\/strong> came close to a wide range of mouth shapes that may have corresponded to the first or last syllable of the character\u2019s dialogue. <\/p>\n<p>Granted, this is a very small sample and heavily influenced by the comic platforms I choose to pull samples. If I had to sum up the results based on the type of comic (comic books, strips\/panels, graphic novels, or manga) nearly characters had open mouths when speaking. The three instances of characters speaking with a closed mouth were all found in comic books. Comic strips and manga had the least expressive mouths. Usually the same mouth shape was used regardless of character or dialog. One strip stood out as an example of lack of expressive mouth shape. In the recent <a href=\"https:\/\/comicskingdom.com\/dennis-the-menace\/2026-05-24\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dennis the Menace Sunday strip (below)<\/a>, Dennis is making different animal noises in an attempt teach his dog \u201ca second language.\u201d If there was one moment when <strong>Ron Ferdinand<\/strong> could have had fun drawing Dennis\u2019 mouth \u201cmaking\u201d animal sound shapes, this would have been it. But maybe that would have broke with 75 years of the \u201cproper way\u201d to draw Dennis.<\/p>\n<p>Just Say Their Name, Please\u2026<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve reported two prior recent instances where a comic or cartoon was featured on national television without mentioning or crediting the artist\u2019s name. The first time was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailycartoonist.com\/index.php\/2026\/04\/23\/cartoonists-on-parade-6\/#tom-richmond-s-mad-cover-on-tv\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Jimmy Fallon<\/strong> talking about being on the cover of MAD magazine<\/a>; the second was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailycartoonist.com\/index.php\/2026\/05\/15\/a-few-updates\/#more-late-night-not-naming-the-cartoonist\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Seth Meyers<\/strong>\u00a0and <strong>Pedro Pascal<\/strong> discussing Pascal being the subject of a New Yorker Cartoon<\/a>. In neither case were the artists\u2014<strong>Tom Richmond<\/strong> and <strong>David Ostow<\/strong>, respectively\u2014mentioned or credited.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"357\" height=\"634\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/pedro-newyorkercartoon.webp\" alt=\"Pedro Pascal on New Yorker Cartoons IG Feed\" class=\"wp-image-113289\"  \/>Pedro Pascal on New Yorker Cartoons IG Feed<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this week <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DYrwu6Kgoz7\/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the New Yorker Cartoons account posted a reel on Instagram of Pascal<\/a> again talking about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/cartoons\/daily-cartoon\/bonus-daily-cartoon-save-us-pedro\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">being in the Ostow New Yorker cartoon<\/a>. Pascal did not credit David. Again. Understandably, being featured on a MAD magazine cover or in a New Yorker cartoon would be a honor worthy of sharing with one\u2019s audience and fans, but I don\u2019t think it\u2019s too much to ask the honoree to include the artist\u2019s name when introducing the artwork to the world. I find irony that Pascal is not being nice (IMHO) to David while glowing about a punchline pivoting on whether he is as \u201cnice as he seems.\u201d Because faith in humanity is at stake, we can hope on of the following two things is true: the cartoon was framed and given to Pascal by a \u201cdear friend.\u201d Maybe David is that dear friend? And maybe there were multiple takes for this reel and Pascal\u2019s proper credit was left out in the edits. Let\u2019s hope one of those latter cases is true.<\/p>\n<p>I have reached out to David for a response. I\u2019ll update this post should he respond.<\/p>\n<p>  <script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Skip to comments Each week my ADHD brain finds some comic-related things on social media that must be&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":511957,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[267],"tags":[746,365,362,363,364,141002,141005,140997,366,140998,18,117,141004,141001,80496,19,17,141000,141003,17780,140999],"class_list":["post-511956","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-arts-and-design","tag-animation","tag-arts","tag-arts-and-design","tag-artsanddesign","tag-artsdesign","tag-cartoonists","tag-comic-pages","tag-comic-strips","tag-design","tag-editorial-cartoonists","tag-eire","tag-entertainment","tag-funny-pages","tag-gag-and-panel-cartoons","tag-graphic-novels","tag-ie","tag-ireland","tag-magazine-cartoonists","tag-newspaper-comics","tag-syndication","tag-webcomics"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/116670341328107182","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/511956","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=511956"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/511956\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/511957"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=511956"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=511956"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=511956"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}