{"id":52397,"date":"2025-09-09T07:08:07","date_gmt":"2025-09-09T07:08:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/52397\/"},"modified":"2025-09-09T07:08:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-09T07:08:07","slug":"party-think-ins-have-been-dominated-by-one-thing-and-its-not-policy-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/52397\/","title":{"rendered":"Party think-ins have been dominated by one thing, and it\u2019s not policy \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The think-ins are supposed to be where the parties prepare for the hard graft of the parliamentary term to come \u2013 the budget, forthcoming legislation, political strategy and messaging.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">But this September, all anyone wants to talk about is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/presidential-election\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/presidential-election\/\">presidential election<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/labour-party\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/labour-party\/\">Labour<\/a>\u2019s outing in Nenagh last week was dominated by the, er, difference of opinion between the former leader <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/alan-kelly\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/alan-kelly\/\">Alan Kelly<\/a> and the incumbent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ivana-bacik\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ivana-bacik\/\">Ivana Bacik<\/a> about the wisdom of backing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/catherine-connolly\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/catherine-connolly\/\">Catherine Connolly<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sinn-fein\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sinn-fein\/\">Sinn F\u00e9in<\/a> leader <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/mary-lou-mcdonald\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/mary-lou-mcdonald\/\">Mary Lou McDonald<\/a> used her think-in in D\u00fan Laoghaire on Monday to declare that she was not going to stand as her party\u2019s candidate. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Meanwhile, at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/fine-gael\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/fine-gael\/\">Fine Gael<\/a> think-in in Mullingar \u2013 even though there was no sign of the party\u2019s candidate <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/heather-humphreys\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/heather-humphreys\/\">Heather Humphreys<\/a> \u2013 the presidency was the topic on everyone\u2019s lips. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">They are particularly interested in the outcome of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/fianna-fail\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/fianna-fail\/\">Fianna F\u00e1il<\/a> candidate selection process on Tuesday \u2013 and there is an expectation in Fine Gael that the presidential election will turn into an old-fashioned Fianna F\u00e1il vs Fine Gael contest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/politics\/2025\/09\/08\/independent-preseidential-candidates-outline-their-credentials-to-kerry-county-council\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Independent presidential candidates outline their credentials to Kerry County CouncilOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Like most observers, Fine Gaelers expect that the Fianna F\u00e1il candidate will be the former Dublin football manager <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jim-gavin\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jim-gavin\/\">Jim Gavin<\/a>, who takes a big lead in declared support into the selection process. And like most observers, they feel that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/billy-kelleher\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/billy-kelleher\/\">Billy Kelleher<\/a> will close the gap when the votes are actually counted, though not by enough to win the contest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">That would be the dream scenario for Fine Gael, if Kelleher did manage to confound expectations and overturn Gavin\u2019s lead. It would be a massive reverse for party leader <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/micheal-martin\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/micheal-martin\/\">Miche\u00e1l Martin<\/a>, a blow to his credibility and a signal that his authority in his party is all but shot. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In Fianna F\u00e1il, there is a belief that Kelleher will do well, but not well enough to unseat the leadership favourite Gavin. Both sides seem to share that analysis. But with such a high volume of votes undeclared, it\u2019s impossible to know for sure. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Once Fianna F\u00e1il makes up its mind, there will be two remaining sources of uncertainty about the presidential contest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/politics\/2025\/09\/08\/sinn-feins-mary-lou-mcdonald-rules-out-running-in-presidential-election\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mary Lou McDonald rules out \u00c1ras bid as Sinn F\u00e9in considers backing Catherine ConnollyOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Sinn F\u00e9in has made the decision not to run its leader \u2013 but not, seemingly, on whether it will run a candidate at all, or if so, who it should be. McDonald\u2019s declaration on Monday perhaps represented an acknowledgment by the party that it couldn\u2019t go on with the will-she\/won\u2019t-she in relation to its most significant political asset. But there is no certainty on what comes next. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">There appears to be little enthusiasm for the role on the Sinn F\u00e9in front bench, and a candidate from Northern Ireland \u2013 be it Stormont First Minister <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/michelle-oneill\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/michelle-oneill\/\">Michelle O\u2019Neill<\/a>, Belfast MP John Finucane or some other, as yet unfloated, name \u2013 would have to contend with the handicap of relative unfamiliarity in the Republic. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Mary McAleese managed that, of course. But she had a party that routinely won 40 per cent of the vote behind her. Bit of an advantage, that. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Sinn F\u00e9in has said it will hold talks with Catherine Connolly. But not running a candidate now and backing Connolly would look like a decision made from a position of political weakness \u2013 and not like a choice that the party would all endorse and row in behind. After all the dithering, Sinn F\u00e9in seems to be in the territory of least bad options.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Down south in the Kingdom of Kerry, the long march began for the Independent candidates seeking a nomination from four local authorities. Their task has been made immeasurably harder by the understandable reluctance among the big parties to facilitate their opponents. No councils have yet said no to them. But the chances of them saying yes are no better than sketchy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The think-ins are supposed to be where the parties prepare for the hard graft of the parliamentary term&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":52398,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[40],"tags":[22055,9316,9,10,1921,18,13,14,4771,553,6,555,19,17,38418,9170,19487,9171,11,12,15,16,16594,5765,34866,5,59,44,47,7,8],"class_list":{"0":"post-52397","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-ireland","8":"tag-alan-kelly","9":"tag-billy-kelleher","10":"tag-breaking-news","11":"tag-breakingnews","12":"tag-catherine-connolly","13":"tag-eire","14":"tag-featured-news","15":"tag-featurednews","16":"tag-fianna-fail","17":"tag-fine-gael","18":"tag-headlines","19":"tag-heather-humphreys","20":"tag-ie","21":"tag-ireland","22":"tag-irish-times-poll","23":"tag-ivana-bacik","24":"tag-jim-gavin","25":"tag-labour-party","26":"tag-latest-news","27":"tag-latestnews","28":"tag-main-news","29":"tag-mainnews","30":"tag-mary-lou-mcdonald","31":"tag-micheal-martin","32":"tag-michelle-o-neill","33":"tag-news","34":"tag-presidential-election","35":"tag-simon-harris","36":"tag-sinn-fein","37":"tag-top-stories","38":"tag-topstories"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52397","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=52397"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52397\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/52398"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=52397"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=52397"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=52397"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}