{"id":637211,"date":"2026-08-14T17:33:17","date_gmt":"2026-08-14T17:33:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/637211\/"},"modified":"2026-08-14T17:33:17","modified_gmt":"2026-08-14T17:33:17","slug":"tech-visionary-says-the-big-ai-labs-dont-get-what-people-want","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/637211\/","title":{"rendered":"Tech Visionary Says the Big AI Labs Don\u2019t Get What People Want"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tim O\u2019Reilly\u2019s yardstick for measuring the worth of a company, person, or society has long been create more value than you capture. It\u2019s no surprise that O\u2019Reilly\u2014<a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/www.oreilly.com\/products\/superstreams.html?utm_medium=paid+search&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_campaign=b2b+search+emea&amp;utm_content=superstreams+emea&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=23785077000&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADHuAxM-gZpFPX6DvPbUufhag6E2Y&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw1vXTBhB-EiwAEKr_kybd91zf2V5QNB-p1PI3JowNVKe4x310eT0mVLqHEUnFYS4cumsM_RoConoQAvD_BwE\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.oreilly.com\/products\/superstreams.html?utm_medium=paid+search&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_campaign=b2b+search+emea&amp;utm_content=superstreams+emea&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=23785077000&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADHuAxM-gZpFPX6DvPbUufhag6E2Y&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw1vXTBhB-EiwAEKr_kybd91zf2V5QNB-p1PI3JowNVKe4x310eT0mVLqHEUnFYS4cumsM_RoConoQAvD_BwE&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.oreilly.com\/products\/superstreams.html?utm_medium=paid+search&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_campaign=b2b+search+emea&amp;utm_content=superstreams+emea&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=23785077000&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADHuAxM-gZpFPX6DvPbUufhag6E2Y&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw1vXTBhB-EiwAEKr_kybd91zf2V5QNB-p1PI3JowNVKe4x310eT0mVLqHEUnFYS4cumsM_RoConoQAvD_BwE\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">publisher<\/a>, <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/cybercultural.com\/p\/1993-global-network-navigator\/\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/cybercultural.com\/p\/1993-global-network-navigator\/&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/cybercultural.com\/p\/1993-global-network-navigator\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">internet pioneer<\/a>, <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/o&#039;reilly-alphatech-ventures\/home\/\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/o&#039;reilly-alphatech-ventures\/home\/&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/o&#039;reilly-alphatech-ventures\/home\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">VC<\/a>, <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/www.oreilly.com\/AI-Codecon\/\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.oreilly.com\/AI-Codecon\/&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.oreilly.com\/AI-Codecon\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">conference organizer,<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/2005\/10\/oreilly\/\" class=\"text link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">dispenser of tech wisdom<\/a>\u2014is applying that metric to the way people design and use AI. Specifically, he\u2019s pushing for a future where <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/chinas-open-ai-models-are-challenging-silicon-valleys-playbook\/\" class=\"text link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">open-source AI<\/a> is an elixir for the masses. He worries that, like Microsoft in the 1990s, today\u2019s hyperscalers are trying to lock users into their products. So he is promoting efforts to open-source AI technology\u2014not only making critical technical details such as neural-net weights accessible, but unlocking the whole stack of an AI system, giving control to designers and users.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">O\u2019Reilly sees AI as a new creative medium, which he uses extensively\u2014and even <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/timoreilly.substack.com\/\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/timoreilly.substack.com\/&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/timoreilly.substack.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">has a blog<\/a> about his chats with it. During our conversation, we discovered that we disagree about AI\u2019s role in producing original content. Guess who took which side.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>STEVEN LEVY: You are all in on open-source AI. Make your case.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>TIM O&#8217;REILLY:<\/strong> First, let&#8217;s make sure we&#8217;re talking about the same thing. When most people talk about open-source AI, they&#8217;re really just talking about open-weight models. It\u2019s much bigger than that. In the \u201990s, when everybody else was focused on open-source licenses, I was like, \u201cNo, no, it&#8217;s about the architecture of the system. Does it enable participation?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>Why is that needed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">The big labs are reading the future wrong. They have told themselves a narrative where having the biggest, best model is the key to the future. Big models like Claude are optimizing for particular use cases, but they aren&#8217;t necessarily the use cases <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/why-normal-people-arent-using-ai-agents\/\" class=\"text link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">that people want<\/a>. I want to embed my own special sauce. The most important thing is having a clean separation between the model, the <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/www.databricks.com\/blog\/ai-harness\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.databricks.com\/blog\/ai-harness&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.databricks.com\/blog\/ai-harness\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">harness<\/a>, and the application. And right now we&#8217;re not getting that. They built an architecture of control rather than an architecture of freedom and participation, so they have the ability to track you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>Isn\u2019t it against the interests of big companies to give up control?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Oh, it&#8217;s totally against their interests. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that they&#8217;re making the right strategic decision. For a long time, the latest and greatest models were really better for everything. Now they\u2019re better for some things and worse for others. People are talking a lot about how <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/model-behavior-anthropic-will-charge-consumers-extra-to-use-claude-fable-5\/\" class=\"text link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Fable<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/openai-models-escaped-containment-and-hacked-huggingface\/\" class=\"text link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sol<\/a> are worse writers than the lower-level models. [Note: Anthropic and OpenAI would disagree.] The breakthroughs that we&#8217;re getting in so-called frontier AI are actually pushing us further away from what ordinary people are going to need. We could win frontier AI here in the US, and China will kick our ass because they have lower-level models diffused widely through society. The goal is to give people the ability to innovate freely, to paint outside the lines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>People worry that open-source software can be a security risk, since bad actors will be able to jump the frontier model\u2019s guardrails.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">All of the cybersecurity incidents we\u2019ve seen are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/ok-well-there-are-even-more-ai-agent-hacking-incidents\/\" class=\"text link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">from the frontier models<\/a>. So risks like cybersecurity and the ability to develop pathogens are actually an argument for slowing down the frontier models more than an argument for restricting open-weight models.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\"><strong>So you feel that with open source the AI powers will no longer be dominant?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">I don&#8217;t predict the future. but I will say the world is proceeding the way that I hoped it would. What if the big frontier models end up like mainframes or supercomputers\u2014aimed at really hard problems, which are not actually the thing that gets diffused throughout society? People are building things like <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/pi.dev\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/pi.dev&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/pi.dev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pi<\/a>, an open-source [agentic] harness. One of the things we&#8217;re working on at my nonprofit, the <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/ai-disclosures.org\" class=\"external-link text link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/ai-disclosures.org&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/ai-disclosures.org\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">AI Disclosures Project<\/a>, is the idea of an open-memory consortium. Mark Zuckerberg\u2019s thesis is, he\u2019s going to lock you in because Meta will give you the AI that knows you best. The open-source vision needs to say no to this. Open source can give you the ability to switch models, switch providers, and maintain all the context that it needs.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Tim O\u2019Reilly\u2019s yardstick for measuring the worth of a company, person, or society has long been create more&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":637212,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[261],"tags":[291,289,290,15061,18,19,17,929,5150,82,256],"class_list":["post-637211","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-backchannel-nl","tag-eire","tag-ie","tag-ireland","tag-open-source","tag-qa","tag-technology","tag-venture-capital"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@ie\/117095065698615349","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/637211","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=637211"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/637211\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/637212"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=637211"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=637211"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=637211"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}