{"id":96369,"date":"2025-10-01T06:58:09","date_gmt":"2025-10-01T06:58:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/96369\/"},"modified":"2025-10-01T06:58:09","modified_gmt":"2025-10-01T06:58:09","slug":"fact-v-fiction-is-the-netflix-series-historically-accurate-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/96369\/","title":{"rendered":"Fact v fiction \u2013 Is the Netflix series historically accurate? \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Among the scores of people who have binged <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/netflix\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/netflix\">Netflix<\/a>\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/tv-radio\/2025\/09\/25\/house-of-guinness-on-netflix-review-wildly-unfaithful-retelling-is-like-succession-with-shillelaghs\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/tv-radio\/2025\/09\/25\/house-of-guinness-on-netflix-review-wildly-unfaithful-retelling-is-like-succession-with-shillelaghs\/\">House of Guinness<\/a> to date, and have kept the series at the number one spot in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/\">Ireland<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-kingdom\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-kingdom\">UK<\/a>, was the great-great-grandson of one of the main characters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Although \u201csurreal\u201d to see his family\u2019s story depicted, Edward <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/guinness\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/guinness\">Guinness<\/a>, the 4th Earl of Iveagh, disagrees with some of the depictions, though believes the portrayal of his great-great-grandfather, Edward, is largely faithful, describing him as a \u201cstickler\u201d and \u201cassiduous\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Guinness heir had no part in the show\u2019s production, though it was conceived by his cousin, Ivana Lowell, who is said to have been inspired while on a trip to Leixlip Castle in Co Kildare, during which she saw an episode of Downton Abbey.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">House of Guinness was subsequently helmed by Steven Knight, the creator of Peaky Blinders.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/tv-radio\/2025\/09\/25\/house-of-guinness-on-netflix-review-wildly-unfaithful-retelling-is-like-succession-with-shillelaghs\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">House of Guinness on Netflix review: Wildly unfaithful retelling is like Succession with shillelaghsOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Although he describes the series as a \u201cgood attempt\u201d, Edward Guinness believes the four siblings, Arthur, Edward, Anne, and Benjamin, are \u201cemphasised much more than they were in real life.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He makes this observation having pored over family papers, various pieces of correspondence, and the archives in the Guinness Storehouse, for his new book Guinness: A Family Succession, which sets out to tell the story of his family.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt [the Netflix series] makes no ambition at relating to purely fact,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cNetflix is what it is,\u201d he says, though he does credit the show for its \u201cbeautiful photography\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"House of Guinness: the Guinness siblings (from left) - Benjamin (Fionn O&#x2019;Shea), Edward (Louis Partridge), Arthur (Anthony Boyle) and Anne (Emily Fairn)\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/J3EPVVATPNA5BPOOMTNZ5FNIUI.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"450\"\/>House of Guinness: the Guinness siblings (from left) &#8211; Benjamin (Fionn O\u2019Shea), Edward (Louis Partridge), Arthur (Anthony Boyle) and Anne (Emily Fairn) <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Each episode opens with a caveat that \u201cthis fiction is inspired by true stories\u201d, though audiences are left none the wiser as to what is fact and what is fiction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">While it may have gripped viewers, one of the earliest scenes shows a riot, instigated by the Fenians, causing chaos as Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness\u2019s coffin passes large crowds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">However, an Irish Times report from May 28th, 1868, details how he was mourned by those of all backgrounds and classes, \u201cas one of the most generous employers and kindest of benefactors\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The day in question was in fact a \u201csombre affair\u201d, said historian Dr Kevin Egan, who has carried out extensive research on the period explored in the series.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cSteven Knight obviously needed something to add to the violent aspect, because that\u2019s one of his tropes. The Fenians had gone underground from 1867, the year before, so the Fenians were not an active force in Irish life at that stage,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">While the presence and activities of the Fenians, who play a large part in the narrative, are inaccurate, a temperance preacher who is shown outside the Guinness gates in the opening episode, reflects a \u201cvery real sentiment\u201d at the time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Dr Egan cites a pamphlet written at the time, which \u201cessentially blamed Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness for all the evils in Ireland because of his brewing\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Louis Partridge in House Guinness. Photograph: Ben Blackall\/Netflix\/PA\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/XVOBEVFWQ6JQZPUJG3OZ4RNRVM.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"450\"\/>Louis Partridge in House Guinness. Photograph: Ben Blackall\/Netflix\/PA <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Overall, the series presents the family as being in a \u201cmuch more dominating position than they actually had\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThey weren\u2019t this sort of mafia-type family subjecting the populace, that\u2019s not true,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">While senior positions at the brewery tended to go to Protestants, Dr Egan says the unionist family employed Catholics, contrary to popular belief, and created a \u201cfamily atmosphere\u201d throughout all ranks at the brewery, resulting in generations of families working there, including his own.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe Guinness brewery provided the best comprehensive package of social care in Britain or Ireland. It was so well-rounded,\u201d Dr Egan says, describing the offering, which included medical, housing, and dental care at one point as \u201cextraordinary\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/tv-radio\/2025\/09\/24\/james-norton-on-perfecting-a-dublin-accent-for-house-of-guinness-i-knew-if-i-didnt-work-hard-id-be-really-exposed\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">James Norton on perfecting a Dublin accent for House of Guinness: \u2018I knew if I didn\u2019t work hard, I\u2019d be really exposed\u2019Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A big plot point of the series is that Arthur Guinness, who married Lady Olivia Hedges-White, is gay, which Dr Egan says is \u201clikely\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Alongside not having any children, this assumption is based on the couple\u2019s marriage settlement, an agreement made before their wedding.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cNormally, a marriage settlement makes recommendations for the children of the forthcoming marriage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere\u2019s no mention of children in that at all, which is very unusual and which means that she was going into a marriage knowing that she was never going to have children,\u201d Dr Egan says.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Emily Fairn stars in House of Guinness. Photograph: Ben Blackall\/Netflix\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/PKYO5ZTM2ZDFNLWDCL3SVZ7V6U.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"450\"\/>Emily Fairn stars in House of Guinness. Photograph: Ben Blackall\/Netflix <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Anne and Edward, meanwhile, were \u201cto a certain extent\u201d portrayed accurately, with Edward said to have been \u201cstrategic\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Anne threw herself into charitable work, and as depicted, suffered with her health, often travelling to the Mediterranean to benefit from the warm climate before dying at the age of 50.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Benjamin, however, was the \u201ccomplete opposite\u201d to his portrayal, Dr Egan says. The sibling is depicted as a depressive type, hindered by alcoholism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cHe didn\u2019t have an alcohol addiction, he had a gambling addiction, and he wasn\u2019t depressive,\u201d he says, describing him as a \u201cbon vivant\u201d, one who loved life \u201ctoo much probably\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The main catalyst for the series, Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness\u2019s will, meanwhile, is inaccurate, he says, as Anne and Benjamin were, in reality, \u201cwell looked after\u201d by their late father.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It is true, however, that he made it \u201cas difficult as possible to break the partnership\u201d between his sons Arthur and Edward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cHe obviously wished it to remain in the family,\u201d he says, though they ultimately managed to redraw the terms, with Edward ultimately taking full control.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall b-it-article-body__text--left\">Regardless of the  inaccuracies in the series, Dr Egan says he is glad it has brought these characters to the fore.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThey\u2019ve been forgotten for so long, and I\u2019d hope that people would want to read more and read the truth about it,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cDublin floated on Guinness, they shaped the city more than any citizen in its history. There\u2019s only one other family in the western world that\u2019s comparable or so associated with one city, and that\u2019s the Medici in Florence,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">This ranged from the family\u2019s social influence to the physical shaping and urban regeneration of a decaying Dublin city.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWhat the Medici are to Florence, the Guinnesses are to Dublin,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Among the scores of people who have binged Netflix\u2019s House of Guinness to date, and have kept the&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":96370,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[75],"tags":[18,117,7195,19,17],"class_list":{"0":"post-96369","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-entertainment","8":"tag-eire","9":"tag-entertainment","10":"tag-house-of-guinness","11":"tag-ie","12":"tag-ireland"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96369","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=96369"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96369\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/96370"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=96369"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=96369"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=96369"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}