{"id":200369,"date":"2026-05-12T07:15:14","date_gmt":"2026-05-12T07:15:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/200369\/"},"modified":"2026-05-12T07:15:14","modified_gmt":"2026-05-12T07:15:14","slug":"es-politika-zaudeju-iluzijas-raksts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/200369\/","title":{"rendered":"Es politik\u0101 zaud\u0113ju il\u016bzijas \/ Raksts"},"content":{"rendered":"

“Arhitekti zina, ka skaistums sl\u0113pjas lab\u0101s proporcij\u0101s. Bet valstij,\u00a0kur vecm\u0101mi\u0146ai nav naudas, par ko nopirkt sev z\u0101les, bet b\u0113rniem \u2013 z\u0101bakus, pirkt “Bentley” automa\u0161\u012bnu ir par daudz. V\u0113l jo vair\u0101k \u2013 pirkt vair\u0101kas vienlaic\u012bgi. (..)\u00a0Valsts, t\u0101pat k\u0101 \u0113ka, ir j\u0101b\u016bv\u0113 vienlaic\u012bgi vis\u0101s sf\u0113r\u0101s,” run\u0101jot par saviem nov\u0113rojumiem valsts finans\u0113juma sadal\u0113, Latvijas Radio raid\u012bjum\u0101 “Laikmeta krustpunkt\u0101” saka arhitekte un bijus\u012b politi\u0137e Ing\u016bna R\u012bbena.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Ilze Dobele: Arhitekte, lektore, R\u012bgas domes deput\u0101te, R\u012bgas 800 gadu jubilejas svin\u012bbu organiz\u0113t\u0101ja, kult\u016bras ministre, Saeimas deput\u0101te \u2013\u00a0t\u0101 savu profesion\u0101lo darbu publiski pieejam\u0101 person\u012bgaj\u0101 m\u0101jaslap\u0101 sadal\u012bjusi Ing\u016bna R\u012bbena. Amati main\u012bju\u0161ies, bet vienm\u0113r vi\u0146a ir mamma \u010detriem b\u0113rniem \u2013 dv\u012b\u0146iem un v\u0113lreiz dv\u012b\u0146iem. Vi\u0146a cilv\u0113ciski atkl\u0101ti dal\u012bjusies ar sav\u0101m p\u0101rdom\u0101m, ar\u012b sar\u016bgtin\u0101jumu un ide\u0101liem un bie\u017ei atbild\u0113jusi ar atmi\u0146\u0101 palieko\u0161iem sal\u012bdzin\u0101jumiem.\u00a0(..) Teju pirms \u010detriem gadiem j\u016bs pazi\u0146oj\u0101t, ka esat nol\u0113musi nekandid\u0113t 14. Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s. Par politisko pieredzi m\u0113s run\u0101sim nedaudz v\u0113l\u0101k un diezgan daudz, bet vispirms, \u2013 k\u0101 jums aizvad\u012bti \u0161ie gadi?<\/p>\n

Ing\u016bna R\u012bbena: J\u0101, man bija saruna ar a\u0123ent\u016bru LETA, kur vi\u0146i man jaut\u0101ja, k\u0101p\u0113c es nekandid\u0113\u0161u, un es teicu, ka es esmu zaud\u0113jusi il\u016bzijas, esot politik\u0101 vair\u0101k nek\u0101 30 gadus, bet ka es nekur neie\u0161u un par to nerun\u0101\u0161u, lai nelaup\u012btu il\u016bzijas tiem, kuriem t\u0101s v\u0113l ir paliku\u0161as. \u0160obr\u012bd es p\u0101rk\u0101pju savu sol\u012bjumu. Kad vi\u0146i man jaut\u0101ja, ko es dar\u012b\u0161u t\u0101l\u0101k, es teicu, ka gan jau liktenis zin\u0101s, kur mani t\u0101l\u0101k vest. Un taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b, 2022.\u00a0gad\u0101, es, protams, nezin\u0101ju, ka man 2023.\u00a0gad\u0101 piedzims mazd\u0113ls. \u0160obr\u012bd man jau ir \u010detri mazd\u0113li piedzimu\u0161i \u0161o tr\u012bs gadu laik\u0101. T\u0101 ka tas ir tas ce\u013c\u0161, kur mani ir aizvedis liktenis. Kaut ar\u012b man k\u0101dreiz man\u0101 vecum\u0101 patiktos s\u0113d\u0113t Dievam pie k\u0101j\u0101m k\u0101 Marijai un klaus\u012bties, man atliek k\u0101 Martai ros\u012bties, jo kop\u0101 man ir se\u0161i mazd\u0113li. Tas ir br\u012bni\u0161\u0137\u012bgi, un tas ir ar\u012b t\u0101ds ener\u0123ijas l\u0101di\u0146\u0161, bet ar\u012b nopietns darbs un br\u012b\u017eiem negul\u0113tas naktis.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Pazi\u0146ojot par \u0161o l\u0113mumu nekandid\u0113t, j\u016bs teic\u0101t, ka esat zaud\u0113jusi il\u016bzijas par tiesisku, god\u012bgu, sak\u0101rtotu valsti ar r\u016bp\u0113m un cie\u0146u pret iedz\u012bvot\u0101jiem. Vai j\u016bs tagad t\u0101pat dom\u0101jat?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Es dom\u0101ju, ka \u0161is ir seku laiks. M\u0113s piedz\u012bvojam sekas tam, k\u0101di m\u0113s esam biju\u0161i 30 un vair\u0101k gadu garum\u0101. Tas ir, k\u0101 ar b\u0113rniem \u2013 tu vari vi\u0146iem no r\u012bta l\u012bdz vakaram ar sausu muti teikt, lai nek\u0101pj novembr\u012b ledain\u0101 \u016bden\u012b, jo b\u016bs iesnas vai plau\u0161u karsonis. Bet, ja tu netiec uzklaus\u012bts, tad taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b, kad ir t\u0101s iesnas vai plau\u0161u karsonis, tad atliek klus\u0113t. Ja secin\u0101jumi netika izdar\u012bti no v\u0101rdiem, tad secin\u0101jumi ir j\u0101izdara no notieko\u0161\u0101.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Un liel\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 es dom\u0101ju, ka \u0161obr\u012bd \u013coti daudz\u0101s jom\u0101s, s\u0101kot jau ar vesel\u012bbas apr\u016bpi, ir tie\u0161i t\u0101da kr\u012bze, k\u0101du to var\u0113ja paredz\u0113t tie cilv\u0113ki, kas kaut cik adekv\u0101ti par \u0161\u012bm liet\u0101m dom\u0101ja.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Izmain\u012bt noteikumus ir viena lieta, bet svar\u012bg\u0101k ir main\u012bt sabiedr\u012bbas mentalit\u0101ti\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u0160ogad ir n\u0101kam\u0101 parlamenta v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anas. Varb\u016bt k\u0101ds j\u016bs ir uzrun\u0101jis, un j\u016bs b\u016btu gatava k\u0101dam sp\u0113kam pievienoties?\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101, ar\u012b 2022. gad\u0101 mani uzrun\u0101ja vair\u0101ki sp\u0113ki. Piln\u012bgi noteikti n\u0113 \u2013 es nepievienotos. T\u0101 ir \u013coti liela pieredze, k\u0101da man ir, un es dom\u0101ju, ka m\u0113s varb\u016bt var\u0113tu izmain\u012bt noteikumus, bet vai m\u0113s var\u0113tu izmain\u012bt m\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bbas mentalit\u0101ti tik viegli? Man nav tam tic\u012bbas. Un, pret\u0113ji citiem cilv\u0113kiem, kas ir dz\u012bvoju\u0161i intens\u012bvu dz\u012bvi, tagad ir prom no politikas un m\u0113\u0123ina kaut k\u0101 to atcer\u0113ties vai aprakst\u012bt, es daru glu\u017ei otr\u0101di\u00a0\u2013\u00a0<\/p>\n

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\u0161\u012b pieredze man nav bijusi nek\u0101da pat\u012bkam\u0101. Es to dz\u0113\u0161u \u0101r\u0101 no savas atmi\u0146as, kaut ar\u012b man ir pied\u0101v\u0101ts uzrakst\u012bt t\u0101das kolor\u012bt\u0101s epizodes. Bet, lai saglab\u0101tu gaismu un prieku par dz\u012bvi ar mazb\u0113rniem, es pie t\u0101 laika vairs nekav\u0113jos sav\u0101s dom\u0101s.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\"Ing\u016bna<\/p>\n

Foto: Arnolds Auzi\u0146\u0161 \/ Latvijas Radio<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Un tom\u0113r, k\u0101 justies v\u0113l\u0113t\u0101jam br\u012bd\u012b, kad no pieredz\u0113ju\u0161iem politi\u0137iem izskan \u0161\u0101da vil\u0161an\u0101s un r\u016bgtums? Tom\u0113r ir j\u0101past\u0101v kaut k\u0101dai cer\u012bbai un tic\u012bbai valsts iek\u0101rtai, p\u0101rvaldei un sp\u0113jai dar\u012bt lab\u0101ku cilv\u0113kiem. K\u0101 r\u012bkoties v\u0113l\u0113t\u0101jam? Ko izv\u0113rt\u0113t?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Es k\u0101dreiz n\u0101cu no Saeimas un satiku savu draugu m\u016bzi\u0137i un m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju Ingm\u0101ru Zemzari net\u0101lu no Saeimas. Un uz jaut\u0101jumu, k\u0101 kl\u0101jas, es vi\u0146am saku: “Ak, Dievs! Ingm\u0101r, tam, ko es daru, nav absol\u016bti nek\u0101das j\u0113gas. Nav nek\u0101das noz\u012bmes tam, ko es run\u0101ju vai rakstu, \u2013 es neko nevaru ietekm\u0113t. Es neko nevaru iespaidot.” Vi\u0146\u0161 smaid\u012bja, skat\u012bj\u0101s uz mani un teica: “Tu laikam ilgi neesi pirmo Mozus gr\u0101matu p\u0101rlas\u012bjusi.” Proti, kad Dievs g\u0101ja nopost\u012bt Sodomu un Gomoru, vi\u0146\u0161 satika \u0100brah\u0101mu. Un \u0100brah\u0101ms vi\u0146am teica: “K\u0101, Dievs, tu iesi nopost\u012bt Sodomu un Gomoru kop\u0101 ar visiem krietniem un god\u012bgiem cilv\u0113kiem, kas tur dz\u012bvo?” Dievs vi\u0146am atbild\u0113ja \u2013 \u0100brah\u0101m, atrodi man piecdesmit taisnus cilv\u0113kus. Un \u0100brah\u0101ms nevar atrast ne 50, ne 40, ne 30, ne 20. Vi\u0146am jau gandr\u012bz bail Dievam pras\u012bt, vai tad, ja atrad\u012bs 10 cilv\u0113kus, vi\u0146\u0161 main\u012bs savus pl\u0101nus un tom\u0113r nenopost\u012bs Sodomu un Gomoru. Dievs atbild\u0113ja \u2013 j\u0101, atrodi desmit cilv\u0113kus. Un m\u0113s zin\u0101m, ka vi\u0146\u0161 atrada Latu vienu pa\u0161u. To vi\u0146\u0161 izveda lauk\u0101, un pils\u0113tas tika nopost\u012btas. Mor\u0101le ir t\u0101da \u2013 ja pat tu neko nevari izdar\u012bt, tu pats vari t\u0101 nedar\u012bt. Taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b es gandr\u012bz Ingm\u0101ram ap\u0137\u0113ros ap kaklu. Es teicu: “Ak, Dievs, cik jauku cer\u012bbu tu man esi devis.” Kam\u0113r m\u0113s esam nosac\u012bti desmit cilv\u0113ki taisni, tikm\u0113r m\u0113s turamies. T\u0101 ir t\u0101da cer\u012bba.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Kas arhitekt\u016brai kop\u012bgs ar politiku?\u00a0<\/p>\n

(..) J\u016bs stud\u0113j\u0101t Arhitekt\u016bras fakult\u0101t\u0113 un p\u0113c studiju beig\u0161anas nek\u013cuv\u0101t par arhitekti, bet gan par lektori. K\u0101p\u0113c t\u0101?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tas bija nebijis notikums, ka t\u016bl\u012bt p\u0113c beig\u0161anas mani aicin\u0101ja tur palikt. Un tas bija padomju laiks \u2013 tolaik nebija iesp\u0113jams apvienot praktiz\u0113jo\u0161a arhitekta un augstskolas lektora darbu, k\u0101 tas ir m\u016bsdien\u0101s.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Man liekas, ka tas bija piln\u012bgi nepareizi, bet, no otras puses skatoties, bija daudz interesant\u0101k run\u0101t par to, k\u0101 vajag, nevis dz\u012bvot taj\u0101 realit\u0101t\u0113, kur nek\u0101 nebija.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Es atceros, kad pirmoreiz m\u016bsu fakult\u0101t\u0113 viesoj\u0101s Gun\u0101rs Birkerts, vi\u0146\u0161 teica, ka mums ir l\u012bdz\u012bgas probl\u0113mas, \u2013 ir gr\u016bti izv\u0113l\u0113ties. Padomju Savien\u012bb\u0101 t\u0101d\u0113\u013c, ka nav, no k\u0101, bet br\u012bvaj\u0101 pasaul\u0113 t\u0101d\u0113\u013c, ka ir par daudz, no k\u0101. (smejas.) To sarunu es ar\u012b vienm\u0113r atceros. Bija t\u0101da nopietna situ\u0101cija, jo t\u0101 tom\u0113r bija t\u0101da pasaules m\u0113roga zvaigzne, kas bija ieradusies R\u012bg\u0101, un Arhitekt\u016bras fakult\u0101t\u0113 visiem bija t\u0101das pragmatiskas intereses saist\u012bb\u0101 ar vi\u0146u \u2013 iedibin\u0101t kaut k\u0101du stipendiju vai sta\u017e\u0113\u0161an\u0101s iesp\u0113jas, ko vi\u0146\u0161 var\u0113tu finansi\u0101li atbalst\u012bt. Es toreiz biju v\u0113l pavisam jauna, un es uzdr\u012bkst\u0113jos vi\u0146am pajaut\u0101t, ko vi\u0146\u0161 t\u0101d\u0101 v\u0113rt\u012bbu hierarhij\u0101 liktu pirmaj\u0101 viet\u0101 \u2013 spo\u017eu talantu, sp\u0113ju sevi mened\u017e\u0113t vai veiksmi. Un vi\u0146\u0161 veiksmi pac\u0113la pirmaj\u0101 viet\u0101, spo\u017eu talantu un sp\u0113ju sevi mened\u017e\u0113t pusi uz pusi nolika otraj\u0101 viet\u0101. Un t\u0101l\u0101k jau sekoja st\u0101sts par vi\u0146a pa\u0161a biogr\u0101fiju, k\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 ierad\u0101s Amerik\u0101, k\u0101 vi\u0146am grib\u0113j\u0101s k\u013c\u016bt par pasaulslavenu arhitektu, kur liel\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 veiksme nosp\u0113l\u0113ja galveno lomu.\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101, ar\u012b \u0161obr\u012bd Arhitekt\u016bras muzej\u0101 ir \u013coti skaista un izsme\u013co\u0161a izst\u0101de par kop\u0113jo Gun\u0101ra Birkerta dz\u012bvesst\u0101stu, ar ko katrs var iepaz\u012bties. (..) Bet politik\u0101 j\u016bs iesaist\u012bj\u0101ties, kad jums bija 32 gadi \u2013 1994. gad\u0101, kad j\u016bs iek\u013cuv\u0101t R\u012bgas dom\u0113 no partijas “Saimnieks”. Kur\u0161 j\u016bs uzaicin\u0101ja, un k\u0101p\u0113c tie\u0161i \u0161\u012b partija?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Paties\u012bb\u0101 es nekad neesmu bijusi “Saimnieka” partijas biedre. Tie bija tie laiki, kad var\u0113ja iesaist\u012bties v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu proces\u0101, esot priek\u0161v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu apvien\u012bb\u0101. Un situ\u0101cija bija t\u0101da, ka 1992. gad\u0101 bija piedzimu\u0161as manas dv\u012b\u0146u meitas, un viss, kas notika, visa t\u0101 ne\u017e\u0113l\u012bba, kas saist\u012bj\u0101s ar b\u0113rniem\u2026 Es atceros, k\u0101 “Dien\u0101” bija t\u0101ds raksts “B\u0113rna kaulus lau\u017e k\u0101 skalus” \u2013 tas manu sirdi grieza pu\u0161u, un es pat uzrakst\u012bju p\u0101ris rakstus. “Dienai” toreiz bija t\u0101das slejas, kur divi da\u017e\u0101di cilv\u0113ki izteic\u0101s par vien\u0101m t\u0113m\u0101m, un tur es rakst\u012bju. Es pat v\u0113stuli uzrakst\u012bju toreiz\u0113jam prezidentam, jo es esmu vienm\u0113r bijusi dz\u012bvs cilv\u0113ks, kur\u0161 rea\u0123\u0113 uz to, kas apk\u0101rt notiek. Un t\u0101 bija sestdiena, kad m\u016bsu dz\u012bvokl\u012b “ielauz\u0101s” pui\u0161i, kurus es pazinu, jo vi\u0146i bija no Arhitekt\u016bras un celtniec\u012bbas fakult\u0101tes, un\u00a0<\/p>\n

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vi\u0146i m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja mani iesaist\u012bt \u0161aj\u0101 priek\u0161v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu apvien\u012bb\u0101, lai es piedal\u012btos v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s uz R\u012bgas domi. Un es toreiz pat nezin\u0101ju to, ka nav j\u0101iet prom no pamatdarba. Es v\u0113l teicu, ka neie\u0161u prom, ka gribu saglab\u0101t savu darbu. Un vi\u0146i teica, ka nav nekur j\u0101iet. \u0160o es saku, lai ilustr\u0113tu savu t\u0101 br\u012b\u017ea kompetenci.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Un pirmdien\u0101 \u0161is saraksts bija j\u0101nodod, un es pie sevis nodom\u0101ju \u2013 ja jau liktenis kaut ko tik negaid\u012btu man piesp\u0113l\u0113ja, varb\u016bt vi\u0146am ir kaut kas padom\u0101. Un t\u0101p\u0113c es piekritu. T\u0101 es ar\u012b nok\u013cuvu R\u012bgas dom\u0113 \u2013 es nebiju partij\u0101, bet tikai priek\u0161v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu apvien\u012bb\u0101. M\u0113s bij\u0101m opoz\u012bcij\u0101, un tas bija pietiekami interesants laiks.<\/p>\n

Viena lieta ir padom\u0101t par kaut ko vai pa\u0161ausmin\u0101ties par kaut ko, bet otrs, protams, ir r\u012bkoties. (..) Viena no dom\u0101m, uz kuru j\u016bs atsaucaties ar\u012b sav\u0101 m\u0101jaslap\u0101, ir m\u0101tes Ter\u0113zes doma: “Ko tu esi rad\u012bjis gadiem ilg\u0101 darb\u0101, var izn\u012bcin\u0101t vien\u0101 nakt\u012b. Tom\u0113r radi.” T\u0101pat esat atsaukusies uz ant\u012bk\u0101s v\u0113stures speci\u0101lista Harija Tumana teikto: “Varon\u012bba nav kolekt\u012bva fenomens; tas vienm\u0113r individu\u0101las gribas akts.” T\u0101tad kaut kas j\u016bsos iek\u0161\u0113ji bija t\u0101ds, kas rad\u012bja v\u0113lmi r\u012bkoties. Vai j\u016bs esat dom\u0101jusi par to, k\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs tom\u0113r grib\u0113j\u0101t uzrakst\u012bt, kad jums lauza sirdi? K\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs grib\u0113j\u0101t, lai ar\u012b citi par to aizdom\u0101jas? Tikpat labi jau var ar\u012b m\u0101j\u0101s teikt, ka ir \u0161ausmas un \u0101rpr\u0101ts, bet turpin\u0101t savu darbu.<\/p>\n

T\u0101du cilv\u0113ku ir \u013coti daudz. Man ar\u012b \u0161obr\u012bd liekas, ka mums ir par maz cilv\u0113ku, kuri kaut k\u0101 dz\u012bvi rea\u0123\u0113tu uz apk\u0101rt notieko\u0161o un nefokus\u0113tos tikai uz sevi, sav\u0101m person\u012bgaj\u0101m probl\u0113m\u0101m un esam\u012bbu vai labkl\u0101j\u012bbu. Grib\u0113tos, lai dom\u0101tu mazliet liel\u0101k\u0101s kopsakar\u012bb\u0101s, jo galu gal\u0101 jau tas ietekm\u0113 m\u016bs visus \u2013 m\u0113s ta\u010du nevaram abstrah\u0113ties sav\u0101 m\u0101j\u0101 ar augstu s\u0113tu un dom\u0101t, ka t\u0101 ar\u012b m\u0113s nodz\u012bvosim dz\u012bvi un ka nekas m\u016bs neietekm\u0113s. (..)<\/p>\n

\"Ing\u016bna<\/p>\n

Foto: Arnolds Auzi\u0146\u0161 \/ Latvijas Radio<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

J\u016bs piemin\u0113j\u0101t likteni, un tas jums atnesa da\u017e\u0101dus politiskos sp\u0113kus un dal\u012bbu taj\u0101. Tie bija politisk\u0101 partija “Saimnieks”, “Jaunais laiks”, “Vienot\u012bba”, “T\u0113vzemei un br\u012bv\u012bbai \/ LNNK”, un \u017eurn\u0101l\u0101 “M\u0101jas Viesis” 2023. gada j\u016blij\u0101 j\u016bs sak\u0101t \u2013 notika t\u0101, ka mani uzskati nemain\u012bj\u0101s, ta\u010du manis p\u0101rst\u0101v\u0113t\u0101 politisk\u0101 sp\u0113ka nost\u0101dnes gan. Un tas laikam bija dom\u0101ts par “Jauno laiku”.<\/p>\n

J\u0101, “Jaunais laiks” un “Vienot\u012bba” nav divas da\u017e\u0101das partijas \u2013 p\u0113c k\u0101da laika “Jaunais laiks” p\u0101rtapa “Vienot\u012bb\u0101”, apvienojoties da\u017e\u0101d\u0101m partij\u0101m. T\u0101 ka t\u0101 nav b\u016b\u0161ana div\u0101s da\u017e\u0101d\u0101s partij\u0101s, bet tas, ka nevis es main\u012bju partijas, bet es nesp\u0113ju main\u012bt savu v\u0113rt\u012bbu sist\u0113mu un uzskatus. (..) Visp\u0101r jau politika k\u0101 t\u0101da mani nekad nav interes\u0113jusi \u2013 dr\u012bz\u0101k es iesaist\u012bjos politik\u0101 t\u0101d\u0113\u013c, ka es grib\u0113ju sak\u0101rtot valsti saviem b\u0113rniem. Un es dom\u0101ju, ka ar t\u0101du konstrukt\u012bvu, anal\u012btisku arhitekta dom\u0101\u0161anu ar\u012b valsti izdosies kaut cik sak\u0101rtot. (..)\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Princip\u0101 jau arhitekts ir profesion\u0101li audzin\u0101ts sak\u0101rtot da\u017e\u0101das funkcijas gan \u0113k\u0101s, gan pils\u0113t\u0101s, pie\u0161\u0137irt strukt\u016bru, pla\u0161u spektru jaut\u0101jumus sak\u0101rtot lo\u0123isk\u0101 sec\u012bb\u0101, lai m\u0113s to visu pat neman\u012btu, bet vienk\u0101r\u0161i labi justos arhitekta veidotaj\u0101s \u0113k\u0101s un pils\u0113t\u0101s.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Vai Latvij\u0101 darbojas “sav\u0113jo” princips?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Darbu parlament\u0101 j\u016bs uzs\u0101k\u0101t 2002. gad\u0101, un toreiz j\u016bs bij\u0101t partijas “Jaunais laiks” sast\u0101v\u0101. Taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 gad\u0101 j\u016bs ar\u012b k\u013cuv\u0101t par kult\u016bras ministri, un j\u016bs teic\u0101t \u2013 kult\u016bra nav bro\u0161a, ar ko rot\u0101ties \u0101rzemju viz\u012b\u0161u laik\u0101. Un tas bija gads, kad ar\u012b tika p\u0101rv\u0113rt\u0113ti vair\u0101ki kult\u016brpolitikas jaut\u0101jumi, Saeim\u0101 tika pie\u0146emts Kult\u016bras ministrijas virz\u012btais R\u012bgas v\u0113sturisk\u0101 centra aizsardz\u012bbas likums, pie k\u0101 j\u016bs str\u0101d\u0101j\u0101t ar\u012b R\u012bgas domes laik\u0101. Un valsts dot\u0101ciju sadal\u0113 te\u0101triem tika ieviesti vienoti krit\u0113riji, kas tagad \u0161\u0137iet joc\u012bgi, ka visp\u0101r var\u0113ja b\u016bt sav\u0101d\u0101k. Un v\u0113l viena lieta \u2013 arhitekt\u016bras nozare tika iek\u013cauta Kult\u016bras ministrijas sist\u0113m\u0101, kas apliecina arhitekt\u016bras noz\u012bmi un liecina par to, ka vide un strukt\u016bra mums pal\u012bdz. Vai tagad, kad ir pag\u0101ju\u0161i 20 gadi kop\u0161 \u0161\u012bm veiktaj\u0101m izmai\u0146\u0101m, ir daudz kas main\u012bjies tie\u0161i arhitektu un b\u016bvnieku kop\u0113j\u0101 izpratn\u0113 par arhitekt\u016bras noz\u012bmi pils\u0113t\u0101 un m\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bb\u0101? <\/p>\n

Arhitekt\u016bra varb\u016bt s\u0101kotn\u0113ji netika iek\u013cauta pie kult\u016bras t\u0101d\u0113\u013c, ka arhitekt\u016brai ir \u0161\u012b lietojam\u012bbas dimensija. M\u0113s glezniec\u012bbu nevaram kaut k\u0101 pragmatiski un sadz\u012bviski lietot, un citas m\u0101kslas t\u0101pat. Bet arhitekt\u016bru m\u0113s rad\u0101m, lai to apdz\u012bvotu. (..) Man gribas atcer\u0113ties ar\u012b j\u016bsu piesaukto V\u0113sturisk\u0101 centra aizsardz\u012bbas likumu, kuru, esot opoz\u012bcij\u0101, man izdev\u0101s uzrakst\u012bt R\u012bgas domes darb\u012bbas laik\u0101 no 1994. l\u012bdz 1997.\u00a0gadam.<\/p>\n

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Toreiz R\u012bgas dome bija satais\u012bjusies b\u016bv\u0113t Valdem\u0101ra centru un atdeva projekt\u0113t \u0161o \u0113ku maniem biju\u0161ajiem studentiem, jauniem pui\u0161iem, pateic\u012bb\u0101 par to, ka vi\u0146i priek\u0161v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu period\u0101 izn\u0113s\u0101ja “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem” lapi\u0146as.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Tas ir tas pats Valdem\u0101ra centrs, kas mums ir \u0161obr\u012bd?<\/p>\n

J\u0101, j\u0101. Uz Elizabetes ielas st\u016bra. Ekselent\u0101k\u0101 vieta pils\u0113tas centr\u0101, pa diagon\u0101li m\u0101kslas muzejam. Visiem arhitektiem m\u016b\u017ea garum\u0101 var\u0113tu b\u016bt sapnis \u0161aj\u0101 viet\u0101 kaut ko projekt\u0113t. Un jaut\u0101jums \u2013 k\u0101p\u0113c m\u0113s atdodam to vieniem konkr\u0113tiem arhitektiem? Pat ja m\u0113s k\u0101dam \u0123\u0113nijam atdotu, tur var\u0113tu san\u0101kt veiksme vai neveiksme. Un man lik\u0101s, ka vismaz v\u0113sturisk\u0101 centra teritorij\u0101 mums vajadz\u0113tu dot iesp\u0113ju piedal\u012bties visiem un konkursa k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101 rad\u012bt to lab\u0101ko un skaist\u0101ko, kas rot\u0101s pils\u0113tu gadsimtos. Un t\u0101 rad\u0101s \u0161is likumprojekts. Ja j\u016bs man jaut\u0101tu, k\u0101 beidz\u0101s konkurss, tas beidz\u0101s ar to, ka vinn\u0113ja tie pa\u0161i z\u0113ni. Bija septi\u0146i \u017e\u016brijas locek\u013ci \u2013 tr\u012bs br\u012bvdom\u012bgie un \u010detri sav\u0113jie. Par t\u0113mu “sav\u0113jie” m\u0113s ar\u012b v\u0113l varam parun\u0101t, jo uz t\u0101s sav\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101 balst\u0101s visa m\u016bsu politisk\u0101 un citu sf\u0113ru dz\u012bve. Mums Latvij\u0101 nav vajadz\u012bgi lab\u0101kie un gudr\u0101kie vai talant\u012bg\u0101kie, jo mums piln\u012bgi pietiek ar sav\u0113jiem. 30 gadu garum\u0101 m\u0113s esam izt\u012br\u012bju\u0161i valsti no t\u0101diem dieva dotiem talantiem, kas varb\u016bt sp\u0113ja un var\u0113ja kaut ko b\u016btiski main\u012bt un uzlabot. Tie\u0161i 1997. gad\u0101 bija Arhitektu savien\u012bbas kongress, kad man bija j\u0101vada kaut k\u0101ds apa\u013cais galds, un pa\u0161\u0101 s\u0101kum\u0101 es piec\u0113los un teicu \u2013 m\u012b\u013cie kol\u0113\u0123i, ir pie\u0146emts likums, ka m\u0113s tagad visi var\u0113sim piedal\u012bties konkursos un visi vienl\u012bdz\u012bgi rad\u012bt arhitekt\u016bru, kas rot\u0101s R\u012bgu gadsimtos.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Sav\u0101 ide\u0101lism\u0101 es jau biju tr\u012bs metrus virs zemes, bet, kad es nolaidu acis, neviens nesmaid\u012bja un neviens neaplaud\u0113ja. Toreiz es tam nepiev\u0113rsu lielu uzman\u012bbu, bet, ilgi esot politik\u0101, es p\u0113c tam sapratu \u2013 m\u0113s ticam, ka sav\u0113j\u0101 grup\u0113juma ietvaros m\u0113s lietas sak\u0101rtosim vair\u0101k,\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

nevis b\u016bsim tik lieli un vareni, ka sp\u0113sim st\u0101v\u0113t p\u0101ri tam, ka k\u0101dam ir izdevies lab\u0101k. M\u0113s diem\u017e\u0113l esam diezgan piezem\u0113ti sav\u0101s savt\u012bgaj\u0101s interes\u0113s. (..) Es dom\u0101ju, ka viduv\u0113j\u012bbas un komformisti vienm\u0113r un visur ir vairum\u0101, bet cilv\u0113ki, kas ir spilgti talanti un kuri sp\u0113j b\u016bt pa\u0161i par sevi, kuriem nav oblig\u0101ti ierakst\u012bties kaut k\u0101d\u0101 grup\u0113jum\u0101 vai kolekt\u012bv\u0101, parasti nevienam nav vajadz\u012bgi. Un tie tiek izmesti.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Vai j\u016bs tos grib\u0113tu saukt v\u0101rd\u0101?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Es nesauk\u0161u v\u0101rd\u0101, jo \u013coti daudzi no vi\u0146iem jau ir prom no Latvijas. \u0160eit to sav\u0113jo grup\u0113jumu gan politik\u0101, gan medic\u012bn\u0101, gan kult\u016br\u0101, gan izgl\u012bt\u012bb\u0101, gan citur ir tik daudz, ka tie cilv\u0113ki vienk\u0101r\u0161i vai nu paz\u016bd, vai nu tiek norakti. Es negribu vi\u0146us t\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 atkal pazemot, nosaucot v\u0101rd\u0101. (..)<\/p>\n

Ja vecm\u0101mi\u0146a nevar at\u013cauties z\u0101les, \u0123imenei nav lo\u0123iski pirkt d\u0101rgas ma\u0161\u012bnas<\/p>\n

Viens liels pas\u0101kums laik\u0101, kad bij\u0101t ministre, bija Dziesmus sv\u0113tki 2003. gad\u0101, un t\u0101pat virz\u012bj\u0101s ar\u012b ideja par Nacion\u0101l\u0101s bibliot\u0113kas b\u016bvniec\u012bbu. Ar \u0113kas projektu m\u0113s iepazin\u0101mies 1989. gad\u0101, savuk\u0101rt 1998. gad\u0101 dibin\u0101ja Latvijas Nacion\u0101l\u0101s bibliot\u0113kas atbalsta biedr\u012bbu, bet 1999. gada 17. novembr\u012b ar \u012bpa\u0161u rezol\u016bciju Nacion\u0101l\u0101 bibliot\u0113ka sa\u0146\u0113ma atbalstu b\u016bvniec\u012bbai no UNESCO \u2013 unik\u0101lu statusu, k\u0101ds ticis pie\u0161\u0137irts vien Aleksandrijas bibliot\u0113kai. \u0112kas b\u016bvniec\u012bba tika s\u0101kta 2008. gad\u0101 un pabeigta 2013. gada 24. decembr\u012b. (..) Kur\u0161 jums bija tas iz\u0161\u0137iro\u0161ais mirklis, kad tapa skaidrs, ka bibliot\u0113ka b\u016bs? Jo tie l\u0113mumi par to, kad un k\u0101 b\u016bs, bija \u013coti daudz, un j\u016bs tam visam procesam taj\u0101 laik\u0101 bij\u0101t kl\u0101t.\u00a0<\/p>\n

T\u0101dai atrakt\u012bvai atk\u0101pei es teik\u0161u, ka man Nacion\u0101l\u0101s bibliot\u0113kas projekts nekad \u012bsti nav paticis \u2013 v\u0113l jo vair\u0101k tas, ka t\u0101 fas\u0101de uz Daugavas pusi ir sadal\u012bta logos k\u0101 m\u0101ja. T\u0101da sadz\u012bviska m\u0101ja ar logiem. M\u0113s abi ar Gun\u0101ru Birkertu, braucot m\u0101j\u0101s no Liep\u0101jas, kur m\u0113s bij\u0101m \u017e\u016brij\u0101 Liep\u0101jas koncertz\u0101lei, run\u0101j\u0101m par to, ka to bibliot\u0113kas m\u0101ju nevajag t\u0101 sadz\u012bviskot ar logiem, bet dr\u012bz\u0101k to “Gaismas pili” t\u0113lain\u0101k var\u0113tu uztvert, ja vi\u0146a b\u016btu vienk\u0101r\u0161i apvilkta ar stiklu k\u0101 ar \u0101du. Bez izc\u0113lumiem, logiem un durv\u012bm. Un Birkerts man teica, ka vi\u0146\u0161 tur redz nevis logus, bet b\u0113rzu birzi, un t\u0101 m\u0113s diskut\u0113j\u0101m par to. Bet tas ir mans person\u012bgais viedoklis par \u0161o visu. Ar\u012b t\u0101s tr\u012bs smail\u012btes, kas ir k\u0101 gai\u013ca sekste, man v\u0113l maz\u0101k pat\u012bk. Bet man bija piln\u012bgi skaidrs k\u0101 ministrei \u2013\u00a0<\/p>\n

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nevar neko ne atlikt, ne diskut\u0113t, ne run\u0101t\u2026 K\u0101 m\u0113s par koncertz\u0101li run\u0101jam jau 20 vai cik tur tos gadus. Tas nebija pie\u013caujams ar bibliot\u0113ku, un es visas savas ener\u0123ijas un sp\u0113kus velt\u012bju, lai bibliot\u0113ka tiktu uzb\u016bv\u0113ta.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Tas ir labi, ka mums t\u0101da ir, bet bibliot\u0113ka bija tikai viens no “Tr\u012bs br\u0101\u013cu” projekta, kas paredz\u0113ja ar\u012b Laikmet\u012bg\u0101s m\u0101kslas centru un ar\u012b koncertz\u0101li. Vair\u0101k\u0101s intervij\u0101s j\u016bs esat min\u0113jusi, ka \u0161ie projekti, ja m\u0113s run\u0101jam par visiem trim, ir nesam\u0113r\u012bgi d\u0101rgi. T\u0101 saj\u016bta, lasot j\u016bsu spriedumus, bija t\u0101da, ka j\u016bs dom\u0101jat, ka tie ir vair\u0101k balst\u012bti ekonomisk\u0101s interes\u0113s. Vai es pareizi sapratu j\u016bsu nost\u0101ju, ka t\u0101 bija dr\u012bz\u0101k k\u0101 iesp\u0113ja b\u016bv\u0113t?\u00a0<\/p>\n

“Tr\u012bs br\u0101\u013cu” a\u0123ent\u016bra paties\u012bb\u0101 bija t\u0101da k\u0101 naudas \u0161\u0137\u0113rd\u0113\u0161anas, t\u0113r\u0113\u0161anas un apg\u016b\u0161anas vieta. Tie lozungi varb\u016bt vi\u0146iem bija labi, bet faktisk\u0101 darb\u012bba gan ne. Tas, ka kaut k\u0101ds starptautisks arhitektu plen\u0113rs bija izv\u0113l\u0113jies Andrejsalu k\u0101 Laikmet\u012bg\u0101s m\u0101kslas muzeja novietni, bija piln\u012bgas mu\u013c\u0137\u012bbas, ko man p\u0113c tam ar\u012b cilv\u0113ki, kas bija tuv\u0101k st\u0101v\u0113ju\u0161i kl\u0101t situ\u0101cijai, atzina, jo starptautiski arhitektu plen\u0113ri nekad neizv\u0113las vietu, kur\u0101 valst\u012b tiks b\u016bv\u0113ta kaut k\u0101da b\u016btiska kult\u016bras b\u016bve. Un v\u0113l \u2013 arhitekti zina, ka skaistums sl\u0113pjas lab\u0101s proporcij\u0101s. Bet valstij, un es tagad teik\u0161u t\u0101d\u0101 l\u012bdz\u012bb\u0101, kur vecm\u0101mi\u0146ai nav naudas, par ko nopirkt sev z\u0101les, bet b\u0113rniem \u2013 z\u0101bakus, pirkt “Bentley” automa\u0161\u012bnu ir par daudz. V\u0113l jo vair\u0101k \u2013 pirkt vair\u0101kas vienlaic\u012bgi. Valsts, t\u0101pat k\u0101 \u0113ka ir j\u0101b\u016bv\u0113 vienlaic\u012bgi vis\u0101s sf\u0113r\u0101s, un, neatkar\u012bgi no savas ska\u013c\u0101s balss vai temperment\u012bg\u0101 rakstura, es nekad neesmu centusies kaut k\u0101 izsp\u012bl\u0113t \u0161o proporciju, kas attiektos tikai uz m\u0101kslu un kult\u016bru, atst\u0101jot nov\u0101rt\u0101 visas p\u0101r\u0113j\u0101s absol\u016bti b\u016btisk\u0101s nozares \u2013 tiesiskumu, izgl\u012bt\u012bbu, vesel\u012bbas apr\u016bpi un visu p\u0101r\u0113jo.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Man visp\u0101r liekas, ka oblig\u0101t\u0101s vesel\u012bbas apr\u016bpes neesam\u012bba ir liel\u0101kais noziegums pret m\u016bsu valsts iedz\u012bvot\u0101jiem. Igau\u0146iem tas jau ir no 1993. gada, bet lietuvie\u0161iem \u2013 no 1998. gada. Mums nav.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Un nemaz nezinu, kad b\u016bs. Visticam\u0101k, neb\u016bs, jo m\u0113s dz\u012bvojam maksas medic\u012bnas valst\u012b. P\u0113d\u0113jos asto\u0146us gadus es parlament\u0101 ar to \u0146\u0113mos, un ne jau t\u0101p\u0113c, ka t\u0101 b\u016btu mana sirdslieta un liel\u0101k\u0101 kompetence, bet t\u0101d\u0113\u013c, ka man tie\u0161\u0101m liekas, ka nav absol\u016bti nek\u0101 svar\u012bg\u0101ka par vesel\u012bbu.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u0160\u0137iet, ka vistuv\u0101k tai idejai Latvija bija tad, kad vesel\u012bbas mininistre bija Ingr\u012bda Circene.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Vi\u0146a bija slimn\u012bc\u0101, kad vi\u0146u atlaida no darba un t\u0101l\u0101k nevirz\u012bja \u0161o oblig\u0101t\u0101s vesel\u012bbas apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161anas sist\u0113mu. Ar\u012b otrreiz tas tika nogremd\u0113ts, bet tre\u0161o reizi j\u016bs ta\u010du atceraties \u2013 [M\u0101ra] Ku\u010dinska vald\u012bba 2017. gad\u0101 pie\u0146\u0113ma likum\u0101, ka 2019. gada 1. janv\u0101r\u012b st\u0101sies sp\u0113k\u0101 oblig\u0101t\u0101 vesel\u012bbas apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161ana. Un oblig\u0101t\u0101 vesel\u012bbas apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161ana ir situ\u0101cija, kur jaunie maks\u0101 par vecajiem, bet veselie \u2013 par slimajiem. Kur m\u0113s k\u0101 sabiedr\u012bba solidariz\u0113jamies viens ar otru. Ma\u0161\u012bna nevar izbraukt uz ielas, ja nav apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161anas, bet Latvijas cilv\u0113kiem nav t\u0101das. Un 2018.\u00a0gada septembr\u012b, oktobr\u012b, novembr\u012b, decembr\u012b tika aicin\u0101ti cilv\u0113ki, kuri neietilpst oblig\u0101t\u0101s vesel\u012bbas apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161anas sist\u0113m\u0101, kas ir visi nodok\u013cu maks\u0101t\u0101ji un v\u0113l 19 grupas, ka vi\u0146i dr\u012bkst br\u012bvpr\u0101t\u012bgi iesaist\u012bties \u0161aj\u0101 sist\u0113m\u0101. Piem\u0113ram, cilv\u0113ki, kas str\u0101d\u0101 \u0101rzem\u0113s, bet medic\u012bnas pakalpojumus sa\u0146em \u0161eit, vai varb\u016bt tie cilv\u0113ki, kuri var at\u013cauties nestr\u0101d\u0101t visa m\u016b\u017ea garum\u0101. Un bija cilv\u0113ki, kas iest\u0101j\u0101s to \u010detru m\u0113ne\u0161u laik\u0101.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Tika iemaks\u0101ts miljons, lai iesaist\u012btos \u0161aj\u0101 sist\u0113m\u0101, un man ir pat v\u0113stule no Vesel\u012bbas ministrijas, kas apstiprina to. Bet tad pap\u016bl\u0113j\u0101s, ka 2019. gada 1. janv\u0101r\u012b tas viss nest\u0101jas sp\u0113k\u0101.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

To atlika, un toreiz\u0113j\u0101 vesel\u012bbas ministre Ilze Vi\u0146\u0137ele pat v\u0113l nebija s\u0101kusi str\u0101d\u0101t, kad jau atlika to projektu papildin\u0101\u0161anai uz apr\u012bli, tad uz j\u016bliju\u2026 Un t\u0101 bija tre\u0161\u0101 reize, kad \u0161\u012b oblig\u0101t\u0101 vesel\u012bbas apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161ana neaizg\u0101ja.\u00a0<\/p>\n

K\u0101p\u0113c jums \u0161\u0137iet, ka \u0161is projekts nav ticis realiz\u0113ts? Kas ir tas liel\u0101kais \u0161\u0137\u0113rslis?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Man pat ir gr\u016bti teikt. Varb\u016bt t\u0101 ir priv\u0101t\u0101s medic\u012bnas ieinteres\u0113t\u012bba? Es tie\u0161\u0101m nezinu. Jo t\u0101 ir tik lo\u0123iska lieta, kas Baltijas valst\u012bs ab\u0101s jau sen darbojas. Tad, kad es savai igau\u0146u draudzenei p\u0113c smagas nieru oper\u0101cijas jaut\u0101ju, cik vi\u0146ai tas viss izmaks\u0101ja, vi\u0146a smaid\u012bja, skat\u012bj\u0101s uz mani un nesaprata, ko es vi\u0146ai jaut\u0101ju, jo vi\u0146a teica \u2013 es visu m\u016b\u017eu esmu maks\u0101jusi nodok\u013cus, un valsts man t\u0101 atl\u012bdzina. Tur vi\u0146i t\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 motiv\u0113 cilv\u0113kus maks\u0101t nodok\u013cus. Bet m\u016bsu situ\u0101cij\u0101 tad jau lo\u0123isk\u0101k ir nemaks\u0101t tos nodok\u013cus un kr\u0101t naudu par maksas medic\u012bnu. Es nevaru argument\u0113t, k\u0101d\u0113\u013c mums nav \u0161\u0101das sist\u0113mas, bet tas ir noziedz\u012bgi, ka mums t\u0101das nav. (..)\u00a0<\/p>\n

Ministriem ir j\u0101prot pie\u0146emt ar\u012b t\u0101dus l\u0113mumus, kas sabiedr\u012bbai nepat\u012bk\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tas, iesp\u0113jams, ir viens no jaut\u0101jumiem, ko var uzdot topo\u0161ajiem deput\u0101tu kandid\u0101tiem, kuri gatavojas start\u0113t n\u0101kamaj\u0101s parlamenta v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s. Bet atgriez\u012bsimies v\u0113l pie j\u016bsu laika kult\u016bras ministres amat\u0101. 2003.\u00a0gad\u0101 vair\u0101kos jaut\u0101jumos j\u016bs paud\u0101t savu viedokli diezgan konkr\u0113ti un diezgan pat asi \u2013 piem\u0113ram, par to, ka p\u0113d\u0113jos gados sp\u0113lfilmas ir \u013coti depres\u012bvas. J\u016bs ar\u012b izv\u0113rt\u0113j\u0101t pieteikumus par Konstant\u012bnam \u010cakstem velt\u012bta pieminek\u013ca ideju, ko bija pl\u0101nots izvietot viet\u0101, kur agr\u0101k st\u0101v\u0113ja \u013be\u0146ina piemineklis, un teic\u0101t, ka tie atg\u0101dina otr\u0101 kursa studentu darbus un ka cerat R\u012bg\u0101 neko t\u0101du neieraudz\u012bt. Un rezonansi rad\u012bja ar\u012b l\u0113mums 2003.\u00a0gad\u0101 nepiedal\u012bties m\u0101kslas bienn\u0101l\u0113 Ven\u0113cij\u0101, nor\u0101dot, ka projekts nav bijis pien\u0101c\u012bgi sagatavots. Atbild\u012bgaj\u0101m amatperson\u0101m ir j\u0101pie\u0146em l\u0113mumi, tom\u0113r bija j\u016btams, ka atsevi\u0161\u0137os gad\u012bjumos cilv\u0113ki saskat\u012bja zin\u0101mu kontroli. K\u0101 ministram atrast to l\u012bdzsvaru? Un te jau nebija naudas jaut\u0101jums, bet p\u0101rsvar\u0101 \u2013 kvalit\u0101tes jaut\u0101jums. <\/p>\n

Tie\u0161i t\u0101. Bez t\u0101, ka es biju ministre, biju ar\u012b rado\u0161s cilv\u0113ks. Vienm\u0113r esmu t\u0101ds bijis. T\u0101 ka pati vair\u0101k identific\u0113ju sevi ar m\u0101ksliniekiem nek\u0101 ar ier\u0113dni vai birokr\u0101tu. Par Ven\u0113cijas bienn\u0101li \u2013\u00a0<\/p>\n

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es uzzin\u0101ju, ka konkurs\u0101, turkl\u0101t ar liel\u0101ko finans\u0113jumu gad\u0101 no visiem m\u0101kslas konkursiem, bija vinn\u0113jis darbs, un tagad es t\u0101 atrakt\u012bvi izteik\u0161os, kur jauno m\u0101kslinieku grupa no v\u0113nas nolai\u017e asinis, “Grindex” sara\u017eo granulas, un tad Sv\u0113t\u0101 Marka laukum\u0101 Ven\u0113cij\u0101 izbaro to balo\u017eiem.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Man bija piln\u012bgi skaidrs, ka \u0161\u0101da l\u012bme\u0146a darbs nav nek\u0101da di\u017ea m\u0101ksla un ka tam m\u0113s tik lielus l\u012bdzek\u013cus net\u0113r\u0113sim. Un tikpat skaidrs man bija, ka es nedr\u012bkstu k\u0101 ministre cenz\u0113t m\u0101kslu. Es ilgi lauz\u012bju galvu, l\u012bdz atcer\u0113jos toreiz sp\u0101rnoto saukli “atkl\u0101t\u012bba”, ko es ar\u012b izmantoju, argument\u0113jot, ka, ja \u0161aj\u0101 konkurs\u0101 uz liel\u0101ko finans\u0113jumu gad\u0101 ir pieteicies tikai viens autorkolekt\u012bvs, ac\u012bmredzot, nav bijusi atkl\u0101t\u012bba. Lieki teikt, ka n\u0101kamaj\u0101 dien\u0101 bija kl\u0101t av\u012bze “Diena”, kura mani interv\u0113ja un vis\u0101di cent\u0101s pazemot \u0161aj\u0101 sakar\u0101, un tas raksts, kur\u0161 kaut kur gan jau ir las\u0101ms, sauc\u0101s “Katrs lauku z\u0113ns Ven\u0113cij\u0101”, jo tas mans pamatarguments bija, ka tad, kad katrs lauku z\u0113ns Latvij\u0101, atkl\u0101t\u012bbai valdot, zin\u0101s par iesp\u0113ju ieg\u016bt tik \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi lielu finans\u0113jumu, lai piedal\u012btos konkurs\u0101 Ven\u0113cijas bienn\u0101lei, tad m\u0113s, Latvija, tur piedal\u012bsimies.<\/p>\n

T\u0101tad nebija iesp\u0113jas daudziem iesniegt, jo konkurss nebija atkl\u0101ts. T\u0101da bija j\u016bsu doma? <\/p>\n

To es nezinu. Es \u0161o faktu uzzin\u0101ju tikai post factum. Varb\u016bt tas k\u0101rt\u0113jo reizi tika dar\u012bts zin\u0101ms tikai sav\u0113jo grupai vai grup\u0101m, un k\u0101p\u0113c piedal\u012bj\u0101s beig\u0101s tikai viens, to es nezinu, bet katr\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 \u0161\u012b ideja un m\u0101ksliniecisk\u0101 kvalit\u0101te, ja visp\u0101r to t\u0101 var saukt, man lik\u0101s neadekv\u0101ta.<\/p>\n

T\u0101tad ministram ir j\u0101b\u016bt gatavam pie\u0146emt ar\u012b sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 vai noteikt\u0101 nozar\u0113 nepopul\u0101rus l\u0113mumus.<\/p>\n

Es nezinu, varb\u016bt tas bija \u013coti slikti, ka es t\u0101 dar\u012bju.<\/p>\n

Es ar\u012b nezinu. (Smejas.)<\/p>\n

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