{"id":61789,"date":"2025-11-30T08:27:10","date_gmt":"2025-11-30T08:27:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/61789\/"},"modified":"2025-11-30T08:27:10","modified_gmt":"2025-11-30T08:27:10","slug":"izglabt-civilizaciju-vel-var-ne-jau-tikai-kremla-kauslim-ir-visi-iespejamie-ieroci-raksts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/61789\/","title":{"rendered":"Izgl\u0101bt civiliz\u0101ciju v\u0113l var. Ne jau tikai Krem\u013ca kauslim ir visi iesp\u0113jamie iero\u010di \/ Raksts"},"content":{"rendered":"

“Visiem ir j\u0101b\u016bt vienotiem un j\u0101liek liet\u0101 visi nepiecie\u0161amie resursi. (..) B\u016bs zaud\u0113jumi, b\u016bs lieli zaud\u0113jumi, bet izgl\u0101bt civiliz\u0101ciju v\u0113l var. Nav jau t\u0101, ka tikai Krem\u013ca kauslim ir visi iesp\u0113jamie iero\u010di,” Latvijas Radio raid\u012bjum\u0101 “Laikmeta krustpunkt\u0101” saka dzejneks un rakstnieks Viktors Kalni\u0146\u0161 jeb Viks, kur\u0161 dal\u0101s p\u0101rdom\u0101s par m\u016bsu laiku sabiedr\u012bbas sa\u0161\u0137elt\u012bbu un modr\u012bbas zaud\u0113\u0161anu, k\u0101 ar\u012b \u013cauj iel\u016bkoties saulain\u0101s b\u0113rn\u012bbas atmi\u0146as ain\u0101s, ko piedz\u012bvojis kop\u0101 ar jaun\u0101ko br\u0101li \u2013 komponistu Imantu Kalni\u0146u.<\/p>\n

Arnis Krauze: Nereti teikts, ka vi\u0146a dz\u012bves filozofija ir pietic\u012bba un vienk\u0101r\u0161\u012bba. Vi\u0146a dz\u012bves filozofija ir dz\u012bvot p\u0113c indi\u0101\u0146u likumiem. Ne glu\u017ei pie indi\u0101\u0146a, bet pie rakstnieka un dzejnieka Viktora Kalni\u0146a, kas pla\u0161\u0101k zin\u0101ms k\u0101 Viks, \u0161odien esam ciemos. Vik, paldies, ka uz\u0146\u0113m\u0101t m\u016bs un piekrit\u0101t \u0161ai sarunai. J\u0101saka gan, ka nebija viegli j\u016bs sazvan\u012bt! Zvan\u0101m vienu dienu, Viks nece\u013c. Zvan\u0101m otru dienu \u2013 Viks nece\u013c. Bet izr\u0101d\u0101s, ka Viks vienk\u0101r\u0161i ir devies \u0101rpus m\u0101j\u0101s, pastaig\u0101t dab\u0101. Un \u0101rpus m\u0101jas Viks ne\u0146em l\u012bdzi telefonu. Tas ir br\u012bnums \u0161ajos laikos \u2013 kaut kur doties bez telefona. Jaun\u0101kajai paaudzei tas visp\u0101r nav saprotams! K\u0101 var b\u016bt \u0101rpus m\u0101jas bez telefona?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Viks: Tad, kad s\u0101k\u0101s digit\u0101l\u0101 \u0113ra, es novilku sarkano l\u012bniju un pateicu, ka \u0161aj\u0101 fenomen\u0101 es nepiedalos. Bet kaut k\u0101d\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 ar pasauli jau j\u0101komunic\u0113 ir, t\u0101p\u0113c man ir tikai mazais senioru apar\u0101ti\u0146\u0161.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tad jau glu\u017ei bez sakariem neesat.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Pavisam bez sakariem jau nedr\u012bkst b\u016bt.\u00a0<\/p>\n

K\u0101 jums kl\u0101jas?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tas ir jaut\u0101jums, par ko var\u0113tu run\u0101t stund\u0101m, bet vien\u0101 v\u0101rd\u0101 \u2013 vis\u0101di.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Latvie\u0161iem ir ierasts uz \u013coti daudziem jaut\u0101jumiem atbild\u0113t ar “norm\u0101li”. K\u0101 patika koncerts? Norm\u0101li. K\u0101 izr\u0101de? Norm\u0101li. K\u0101 iet pa dz\u012bvi? Norm\u0101li.<\/p>\n

T\u0101 ir skol\u0113nu leksika, es to paz\u012bstu.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Pasaule ir zaud\u0113jusi modr\u012bbu\u00a0<\/p>\n

Vik, m\u016bsu saruna notiek valsts sv\u0113tku m\u0113nes\u012b. \u0160is gads jums ir \u012bpa\u0161s ar to, ka valsts nov\u0113rt\u0113ja j\u016bsu darbu, pasniedzot augst\u0101ko apbalvojumu \u2013 Viks tagad ir ar\u012b Triju Zvaig\u017e\u0146u orde\u0146a virsnieks! K\u0101 j\u016bs jut\u0101ties, pil\u012b sa\u0146emot atzin\u012bbu un uzzinot, ka \u0161\u0101da atzin\u012bba jums ir pie\u0161\u0137irta? Ko j\u016bs par visu \u0161o sak\u0101t?<\/p>\n

Ja god\u012bgi, es var\u0113tu atk\u0101rtot tie\u0161i tos v\u0101rdus, ko es teicu, sa\u0146emot \u0161o atzin\u012bbas z\u012bmi.<\/p>\n

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Ka t\u0101 atzin\u012bbas lauvas tiesa man\u0101 skat\u012bjum\u0101 pien\u0101kas maniem vec\u0101kiem \u2013 manai m\u0101tei un t\u0113vam. Jo ar t\u0101m sirds un darba kvalit\u0101t\u0113m, k\u0101das piemita vi\u0146iem, Latviju var s\u0101kt b\u016bv\u0113t pat tuksne\u0161a vid\u016b.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

K\u0101 j\u016bs raug\u0101ties uz to, kas \u0161obr\u012bd notiek Latvij\u0101? K\u0101ds no Dik\u013ciem ir skats uz Latviju? <\/p>\n

Ar Latviju var\u0113tu viss b\u016bt k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101 jeb, k\u0101 skolas b\u0113rni saka, viss var\u0113tu b\u016bt norm\u0101li, ja neb\u016btu da\u017eu faktoru, kas liek b\u016bt uzman\u012bgiem, piesardz\u012bgiem un tur\u0113t modr\u012bbu pirmaj\u0101 viet\u0101. Un te der atcer\u0113ties v\u0101rdus, kas ir ierakst\u012bti ASV \u0123erbon\u012b. Ori\u0123in\u0101l\u0101 tie skan t\u0101 \u2013 “[Eternal] vigilance is the price of liberty” \u2013 br\u012bv\u012bbas cena ir modr\u012bba. Bet tas jau attiecas ne tikai uz Latviju. \u0160odienas pasaul\u0113, v\u0113rt\u0113jot situ\u0101ciju tie\u0161i vis\u0101 pasaul\u0113, un Latvija nevar b\u016bt atrauta no pasaules, ir j\u0101apzin\u0101s, cik \u013coti svar\u012bga ir \u0161\u012b formula. Modr\u012bba kaut kad tika pab\u012bd\u012bta mal\u0101, cerot, ka pasaul\u0113 viss nok\u0101rtosies vair\u0101k vai maz\u0101k pats no sevis. Bet, k\u0101 zin\u0101ms, t\u0101 nenotika.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Par ko mums \u0161odien ir j\u0101b\u016bt modriem?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Par to, kas pasaul\u0113 notiek. Un es dom\u0101ju, ka glob\u0101li liela da\u013ca plan\u0113tas iedz\u012bvot\u0101ju v\u0113l nesaprot, k\u0101di procesi notiek pasaul\u0113. Vai tad nav skaidrs, ka, pirms s\u0101k\u0101s Krievijas agresija Ukrain\u0101, bija izveidojusies diktat\u016bru alianse? M\u0113s zin\u0101m, kas ir \u0161\u012bs diktat\u016bras. T\u0101p\u0113c ar zin\u0101mu p\u0101rliec\u012bbu kara uzs\u0101c\u0113js ar\u012b var\u0113ja uzs\u0101kt savas darb\u012bbas.\u00a0<\/p>\n

K\u0101p\u0113c Putins tik br\u012bvi var\u0113ja r\u012bkoties?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tie\u0161i t\u0101p\u0113c, ka bija jau noform\u0113jusies \u0161\u012b diktat\u016bru alianse. Krievija, \u0136\u012bna, Zieme\u013ckoreja un Ir\u0101na. Un Rietumi pie\u013c\u0101va jau labu laiku iepriek\u0161 lielu k\u013c\u016bdu \u2013 bija pazudusi modr\u012bba, un nezinu, no kurienes bija uzradusies p\u0101rliec\u012bba, ka Krievija var iek\u013cauties civiliz\u0113t\u0101s pasaules saim\u0113 un att\u012bst\u012bties tai v\u0113lam\u0101 virzien\u0101. Bet t\u0101 nenotika.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Es v\u0113l \u0161odien br\u012bnos, k\u0101 tas var\u0113ja notikt, ka p\u0113c t\u0101 d\u0113v\u0113t\u0101 PSRS sabrukuma Rietumi deva bag\u0101t\u012bgas naudas Krievijai, kas realit\u0101t\u0113 tika virz\u012bta tikai uz vienu m\u0113r\u0137i, \u2013 lai Kremlis var\u0113tu uzb\u016bv\u0113t t\u0101du kara ma\u0161\u012bnu, ar kuru var\u0113tu s\u0101kt \u012bstenot ieceri atjaunot savu imp\u0113riju.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Kur skat\u012bj\u0101s Rietumi? Ko tie dom\u0101ja?\u00a0<\/p>\n

K\u0101 j\u016bs redzat, ar ko \u0161is kar\u0161 beigsies? Kas notiks ar Krieviju? Kas notiks ar Putinu?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Es neloloju nek\u0101das il\u016bzijas, jo \u0161is person\u0101\u017es ir ap\u0146\u0113mies paveikt to, ko vi\u0146\u0161 ir iecer\u0113jis. Un naivi izskat\u0101s Rietumu m\u0113\u0123in\u0101jumi ar vi\u0146u run\u0101t t\u0101d\u0101 valod\u0101, k\u0101da ir pierasta civiliz\u0113t\u0101 pasaul\u0113. Ja bija k\u0101ds Rietumu vad\u012bt\u0101js, kur\u0161 saprata un ar\u012b atkl\u0101ti pateica, ka valoda, ko saprot Krievija, ir tikai viena \u2013 sp\u0113ka valoda \u2013, tas bija Kenedijs. Un nav nek\u0101ds br\u012bnums, ka vi\u0146\u0161 tika nov\u0101kts.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Vik, zinot, k\u0101ds kaimi\u0146\u0161 mums ir blakus, cik dro\u0161i j\u016bs raug\u0101ties uz m\u016bsu valsti un m\u016bsu dro\u0161\u012bbu?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Nu, ja civiliz\u0113t\u0101 pasaule apzin\u0101sies piln\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 \u0161o situ\u0101ciju, k\u0101da pasaul\u0113 tagad ir izveidojusies, un attiec\u012bgi r\u012bkosies\u2026 Nav jau t\u0101, ka \u0161o grup\u0113jumu, kas vada Kreml\u012b,\u00a0nevar pieveikt. Es klausos un skatos p\u0101rraides, kas ir Latvijas Telev\u012bzij\u0101, un speci\u0101listus, kas analiz\u0113 un v\u0113rt\u0113 procesus, un ar\u012b vi\u0146u apl\u0113s\u0113s ir \u0161\u012b pozit\u012bv\u0101 versija, ka var tikt gal\u0101. Bet tad tie\u0161\u0101m visiem ir j\u0101b\u016bt vienotiem un j\u0101liek liet\u0101 visi nepiecie\u0161amie resursi.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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Bet izdar\u012bt to var. B\u016bs zaud\u0113jumi, b\u016bs lieli zaud\u0113jumi, bet izgl\u0101bt civiliz\u0101ciju v\u0113l var. Nav jau t\u0101, ka tikai Krem\u013ca kauslim ir visi iesp\u0113jamie iero\u010di.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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\"DzejnieksDzejnieks Viks<\/p>\n

Foto: Arnolds Auzi\u0146\u0161 \/ Latvijas Radio<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Latvijas sabiedr\u012bba ne tuvu nav ide\u0101la\u00a0<\/p>\n

K\u0101du \u0161is kar\u0161 un Krievijas agresija ir par\u0101d\u012bjusi Latvijas sabiedr\u012bbu? \u012apa\u0161i kara s\u0101kum\u0101 m\u0113s redz\u0113j\u0101m, cik \u013caudis bija akt\u012bvi un ziedoja. Turpina ziedot ar\u012b tagad, varb\u016bt vairs ne tik akt\u012bvi, bet bija milz\u012bgs entuziasms pal\u012bdz\u0113t ukrai\u0146iem. S\u0101kot no sirm\u0101m m\u0101mi\u0146\u0101m, kas ad\u012bja ze\u0137es karav\u012briem frontes ierakumos, l\u012bdz uz\u0146\u0113m\u0113jiem, kas s\u016bt\u012bja ma\u0161\u012bnas un dronus. No vienas puses, m\u0113s ieraudz\u012bj\u0101m \u0161o atbalstu, bet, no otras puses \u2013 m\u0113s ieraudz\u012bj\u0101m ar\u012b cilv\u0113kus, kuri simpatiz\u0113 \u0161ai agresijai un Putinam. Bija ar\u012b t\u0101di, kas par\u0101d\u012bja savu nelojalit\u0101ti Latvijai un aizmuka prom no Latvijas, nesagaidot tiesu sodus. Ko \u0161is kar\u0161 atkl\u0101j par mums?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tagad\u0113j\u0101 Latvijas sabiedr\u012bba ne tuvu nav ide\u0101la. Ne tuvu nav ide\u0101la tie\u0161i taj\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101 \u2013 tie\u0161i mor\u0101laj\u0101. Nav viengabalain\u012bbas. (..)\u00a0<\/p>\n

Kas ir tas, kas m\u016bs \u0161\u0137e\u013c? Kas ir tie str\u012bdi, kas sarausta m\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bbu? Piem\u0113ram, es s\u0113d\u0113ju ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101 un klaus\u012bjos Saeimas s\u0113di par Stambulas konvenciju, kas \u0161obr\u012bd ir liels st\u0101sts un piem\u0113rs Latvijas sabiedr\u012bbas sa\u0161\u0137elt\u012bbai.\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101. Mani izbr\u012bna, atz\u012b\u0161os. Es nezinu, k\u0101p\u0113c cilv\u0113ki nesaprot element\u0101ras lietas. To pa\u0161u Stambulas konvenciju. (Smejas.) Vai tie\u0161\u0101m tur pamat\u0101 visam ir tas LGBT? Un, ja ir, tad rodas jaut\u0101jums \u2013 vai tad nav zin\u0101ms, ka novirzes no t\u0101 saucam\u0101s normas ir biju\u0161as vienm\u0113r un visos laikos? Tie, kas ir m\u0101c\u012bju\u0161ies par sengrie\u0137u kult\u016bru, \u013coti labi zina, ka bija t\u0101da Lesbas sala un ka \u0161o minorit\u0101ti rada pret\u0113j\u0101 dzimuma hormonu p\u0101rsvars organism\u0101. Un tas ir vienm\u0113r bijis pasaul\u0113. Protams, es pie\u0146emu, ka ne visi ir las\u012bju\u0161i 1912. gad\u0101 P\u0113terburg\u0101 izdotu krievu profesora Sazonova, \u0161\u0137iet, darbu, kas saucas “M\u0113nesn\u012bcas \u013caudis”, kur vi\u0146\u0161 zin\u0101tniski pier\u0101da, ka \u0161is sektors dzimum\u0101 gan sieviet\u0113s, gan v\u012brie\u0161os rodas no pret\u0113j\u0101 dzimuma hromosomu p\u0101rsvara.<\/p>\n

Bet tas, ko es j\u016bsos saklausu, ka, piem\u0113ram, \u0161is st\u0101sts, ap\u00a0ko p\u0113d\u0113jos m\u0113ne\u0161os ir liela \u0146em\u0161an\u0101s, nav tas, kas b\u016btu j\u0101liek mums \u0161obr\u012bd sabiedr\u012bbas dienask\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101 k\u0101 priorit\u0101te.\u00a0Ir daudz svar\u012bg\u0101ku lietu?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Protams, bet k\u0101dam tas ir izdev\u012bgi. M\u0113s jau redzam p\u0113c balsojumiem, kas izmanto \u0161o nevienpr\u0101t\u012bbu sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 un kas uzkurina v\u0113l.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Par ko mums \u0161obr\u012bd b\u016btu daudz svar\u012bg\u0101k run\u0101t Stambulas konvencijas viet\u0101 un kam b\u016btu daudz liel\u0101ka uzman\u012bba j\u0101piev\u0113r\u0161?\u00a0<\/p>\n

M\u0113s zin\u0101m, ka Latvij\u0101 ir milz\u012bgs, k\u0101 lai pasaka, krievvalod\u012bgo skaits. Bet tas jau speci\u0101li bija rad\u012bts un tas speci\u0101li tika rad\u012bts tie\u0161i PSRS laik\u0101 valdo\u0161\u0101s Krem\u013ca politikas rezult\u0101t\u0101 ar to domu, ko es jau min\u0113ju\u00a0\u2013\u00a0laika gait\u0101 visu teritoriju rusific\u0113t.\u00a0Pie t\u0101 tika str\u0101d\u0101ts. Un tad, kad s\u0101k\u0101s Atmoda un tika celti gaism\u0101 statistikas dati, ka ar katru gadu arvien vair\u0101k arvien vair\u0101k Latvijas tipogr\u0101fij\u0101m bija j\u0101druk\u0101 darbi\u00a0krievu valod\u0101… \u2013 tas viss uz to veda, un tas bija viens no tiem punktiem, ko Atmoda izc\u0113la.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Ko mums dar\u012bt ar \u0161o pag\u0101tni?\u00a0<\/p>\n

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B\u016btu \u013coti labi, ja var\u0113tu meh\u0101niski sav\u0101kt \u0161os cilv\u0113kus un, t\u0101pat k\u0101 meh\u0101niski vi\u0146i tika iepludin\u0101ti Latvij\u0101, t\u0101pat vi\u0146us aiztransport\u0113t atpaka\u013c.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Bet to neviens nedar\u012bs.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Bet es paz\u012bstu ar\u012b da\u017eus krievu cilv\u0113kus… j\u0101, vi\u0146u vec\u0101ki varb\u016bt \u0161eit iebrauca vai tika ievesti, bet es zinu virkni jaun\u0101s paaudzes krievu, kuriem ir izcila latvie\u0161u valoda, kuri beigu\u0161i skolu latvie\u0161u valod\u0101 un kuri ir lieli Latvijas patrioti. Visus vien\u0101 mais\u0101 nevar b\u0101zt.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Es ar\u012b neb\u0101\u017eu visus vien\u0101 mais\u0101. Sav\u0101 laik\u0101 man n\u0101c\u0101s dien\u0113t krievu armij\u0101 \u2013 tie bija interesanti gadi. T\u0101 bija 60. gadu pirmaj\u0101 pus\u0113. T\u0101 bija Kubas kr\u012bze, kad l\u012bdz glob\u0101lam kodolkaram bija p\u0101ris so\u013cu. Ja Kenedijs neb\u016btu stingri pateicis savu poz\u012bciju, tad tas ar\u012b aizietu.\u00a0<\/p>\n

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B\u016bdams tr\u012bs gadus krievu armij\u0101, es biju kontakt\u0101 ar pietiekami daudziem krieviem, lai var\u0113tu izdar\u012bt secin\u0101jumus par \u0161o n\u0101ciju.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Tur ir vis\u0101di. Vi\u0146iem ir labs sak\u0101mais \u2013 katr\u0101 \u0123imen\u0113 ir pa kroplim. Protams, procentu\u0101li katr\u0101 taut\u0101 \u0161is skaitlis ir cit\u0101d\u0101ks.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Vai \u0161o sak\u0101mv\u0101rdu ar\u012b uz latvie\u0161iem var attiecin\u0101t?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Var. Es tikai ne\u0146emos procentu\u0101li neko teikt, jo nav statistikas. Ar to ir j\u0101r\u0113\u0137in\u0101s, bet mest plinti kr\u016bmos t\u0101p\u0113c vien, ka ir \u0161\u012b situ\u0101cija, nedr\u012bkst. Katrai m\u016bsu n\u0101cijas dz\u012bv\u012bbai ir j\u0101dara viss maksim\u0101lais, ko iesp\u0113jams \u0161\u012bs dz\u012bv\u012bbas ietvaros paveikt. Nelolojot nek\u0101das il\u016bzijas.\u00a0<\/p>\n

B\u0113rn\u012bbas saulain\u0101s dienas un pirm\u0101s dzejas rindas\u00a0<\/p>\n

(..) Vik, reiz interv\u0113jot j\u016bsu br\u0101li Imantu [Kalni\u0146u], vi\u0146\u0161 par sav\u0101m b\u0113rn\u012bbas atmi\u0146\u0101m st\u0101st\u012bja tie\u0161i saist\u012bb\u0101 ar Dik\u013cu pusi. Vai jums tur ir saist\u012bba?\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101, karam s\u0101koties, t\u0113vs m\u016bs ies\u0113din\u0101ja vilcien\u0101, lai m\u0113s nok\u013c\u016btu vi\u0146a t\u0113va m\u0101sas \u012bpa\u0161um\u0101 Dik\u013cos. \u012apa\u0161ums sauc\u0101s “Mor\u0113ni”, un pats vi\u0146\u0161 nevar\u0113ja tikt l\u012bdzi, jo v\u0101cie\u0161i militariz\u0113ja “VEF” [kur vi\u0146\u0161 str\u0101d\u0101ja], un tehniskajiem darbiniekiem nebija at\u013caujas atst\u0101t r\u016bpn\u012bcu. Cik es sapratu, t\u0113vs r\u016bp\u0113j\u0101s par mums t\u0101p\u0113c, ka kara laik\u0101 R\u012bg\u0101 bija \u013coti v\u0101ji iztikas l\u012bdzek\u013ci. Uz kart\u012bt\u0113m viss bija. Toties lauku m\u0101j\u0101s bija govis un p\u0101r\u0113jie dz\u012bvnieci\u0146i. Pa\u0161i vi\u0146i gatavoja sviestu, kr\u0113jumu. Kara gados tur\u00a0bija iztik\u0161ana iev\u0113rojami viegl\u0101ka nek\u0101 R\u012bg\u0101.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Bet ar\u012b tie p\u0113ckara gadi nebija nemaz tik viegli \u2013 j\u016bs esat teicis un st\u0101st\u012bjis, ka \u0123imene nevar\u0113ja at\u013cauties svin\u0113t j\u016bsu abu dzim\u0161anas dienas. Jums t\u0101 ir apr\u012bl\u012b un Imantam \u2013 maij\u0101. Un tad esot bijis laiks, kad svin\u0113ts pam\u012b\u0161us \u2013 vienu gadu Imantam, bet otru gadu Viktoram. T\u0101 tas bija?\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101, t\u0101 tas bija. Un es v\u0113l atceros tos p\u0113ckara gadus \u0161aj\u0101 aspekt\u0101 t\u0101, ka t\u0101 naudi\u0146a \u0123imen\u0113 bija izs\u012bkusi v\u0113l pirms algas dienas. Un tad g\u0101ja pie kaimi\u0146iem aiz\u0146emties.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Pr\u0101t\u0101 esot jums ar\u012b panti\u0146\u0161, kuru t\u0113tis esot m\u0101c\u012bjis: “M\u0113s bij\u0101m div\u2019 br\u0101l\u012b\u0161i, abi m\u012b\u013ci dz\u012bvoj\u0101m. Vilk\u0101m vienus z\u0101baci\u0146us katrs reizi k\u0101ji\u0146\u0101.” <\/p>\n

T\u0101 bija, j\u0101. Tas ar\u012b m\u016bs audzin\u0101ja. M\u016bs audzin\u0101ja t\u0101 atmosf\u0113ra, k\u0101da bija \u0123imen\u0113. Un t\u0101 bija \u013coti vienk\u0101r\u0161a, neuzsp\u0113l\u0113ta, un katrs apzin\u0101j\u0101s savus pien\u0101kumus.<\/p>\n

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Tagad \u0161\u0137iet, ka b\u0113rn\u012bb\u0101 nebija neviena apm\u0101kusies diena. Es atceros, ka mana m\u0101te, atceroties savu b\u0113rn\u012bbu, st\u0101st\u012bja, ka ar savu m\u0101si\u0146u dz\u012bvoja tik tr\u016bc\u012bgi, ka vec\u0101kiem nebija iesp\u0113jas pat vienk\u0101r\u0161\u0101ko lell\u012bti vi\u0146\u0101m\u00a0nopirkt.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Un tad vi\u0146as izl\u012bdz\u0113j\u0101s t\u0101d\u0113j\u0101di, ka t\u0113vam bija \u0113ve\u013cu sols \u2013 vi\u0146\u0161 bija galdnieks \u2013 un, apstr\u0101d\u0101jot kaut k\u0101dus kokus un izgatavojot pas\u016bt\u012bjumus, zem \u0113ve\u013cu sola parasti kr\u0101j\u0101s skaidas. Un, iedom\u0101jies, abas meiten\u012btes no t\u0101m skaid\u0101m izveidoja un tais\u012bja lell\u012btes. Kaut k\u0101das lupati\u0146as kaut kur atrada, ap\u0123\u0113rba\u00a0t\u0101s pa\u0161tais\u012bt\u0101s lell\u012btes. Un t\u0101s bija vi\u0146u sp\u0113\u013clieti\u0146as.\u00a0<\/p>\n

No b\u0113rn\u012bbas st\u0101stiem Imants man ir st\u0101st\u012bjis, ka vi\u0146\u0161 vec\u0101kiem esot d\u012bcis un d\u012bcis vijol\u012bti, un tad esot pien\u0101kusi t\u0101 dzim\u0161anas diena, kad t\u0113tis \u0161o vijol\u012bti esot atnesis un uzd\u0101vin\u0101jis. Ko j\u016bs d\u012bc\u0101t un izd\u012bc\u0101t vec\u0101kiem, Viktor?<\/p>\n

Es nezinu, vai es visp\u0101r d\u012bcu. Ac\u012bmredzot, t\u0101 m\u016bzikas str\u012bpa br\u0101l\u012b bija tik \u0123en\u0113tiski sp\u0113c\u012bga, ka vi\u0146\u0161 pielietoja d\u012bk\u0161anas metodi. Bet es neko \u012bpa\u0161u ned\u012bcu. No sav\u0101m rota\u013clieti\u0146\u0101m man visvair\u0101k patika, k\u0101 t\u0113vs mums nopirka t\u0101du mazu ble\u0137a vilcieni\u0146u. \u013boti skaista lokomot\u012bv\u012bte ar da\u017eiem vagoni\u0146iem.<\/p>\n

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Var\u0113ja to ripin\u0101t pa gr\u012bdu. Vair\u0101k jau neko nevajadz\u0113ja \u2013 tas bija \u013coti daudz.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Bet tas viss beidz\u0101s ar to, ka man s\u0101ka interes\u0113t, kas ir vagoni\u0146os iek\u0161\u0101. Un, t\u0101 k\u0101 tur nevar\u0113ja cit\u0101di piek\u013c\u016bt, k\u0101 vien atlokot skali\u0146as, ar ko sastiprin\u0101tas vagona sienas, gr\u012bda un jumts, es visu izjaucu. Atpaka\u013c vairs salikt nevar\u0113ja.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Viktor, es esmu dzird\u0113jis ar\u012b vienu st\u0101stu par to, k\u0101 j\u016bs nopeln\u012bj\u0101t savu pirmo naudu. Pirmos desmit rub\u013cus. Tas bija ar rakst\u012b\u0161anu \u2013 ar \u017eurn\u0101la izdo\u0161anu! “M\u0101jas Viesis” to sauca?\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101, nek\u0101ds ori\u0123in\u0101lais nosaukums jau nebija. Bet kaut kur bija dzird\u0113ts, ka t\u0101ds ir eksist\u0113jis.\u00a0<\/p>\n

T\u0101ds \u017eurn\u0101ls bija Ulma\u0146a laikos?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Diez vai. \u0160\u0137iet, ka “M\u0101jas Viesis” bija \u017eurn\u0101ls pirmajos Atmodas laikos jeb jau latvie\u0161u laikmet\u0101. Tas kaut kur bija las\u012bts. \u017durn\u0101ls “M\u0101jas Viesis” tapa t\u0101d\u0113\u013c, ka grib\u0113j\u0101s pa\u0161am izdot. Es neatceros, kur\u0101 klas\u0113 es m\u0101c\u012bjos, bet t\u0101 bija pamatskola. Materi\u0101lus liku iek\u0161\u0101, pats gudroju.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tur ar\u012b pirmie panti\u0146i un pirm\u0101s rindi\u0146as?\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101, es atceros, ka viens dzejolis bija par to, k\u0101 vecmamma gatavo \u0113dienu. Tas lik\u0101s svar\u012bgi \u2013\u00a0\u0113diena gatavo\u0161ana un \u0113diens\u2026 Kur tad bez \u0113diena liksies?\u00a0<\/p>\n

(..) Imants ar\u012b las\u012bja “M\u0101jas Viesi”, vai to dev\u0101t tikai mammai un t\u0113tim?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Imants ne tikai las\u012bja \u2013 es vi\u0146u pal\u016bdzu ar\u012b piedal\u012bties! Un tad vi\u0146\u0161 ar\u012b kaut ko rakst\u012bja. Es p\u0101rrakst\u012bju. Lai \u017eurn\u0101ls b\u016btu viegl\u0101k las\u0101ms, bija vajadz\u012bgs to rakst\u012bt t\u0101d\u0101 \u0161rift\u0101.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Imants piedal\u012bj\u0101s, bet galvenais redaktors bij\u0101t j\u016bs, vai ne?\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101, es p\u0101rrakst\u012bju visu vien\u0101 \u0161rift\u0101. Un ar\u012b ilustr\u0101cijas es pats z\u012bm\u0113ju kl\u0101t. Un, kad\u00a0pirmais numurs izn\u0101ca, t\u0101 bija pirm\u0101 nopeln\u012bt\u0101 nauda. Es uz \u017eurn\u0101la v\u0101ka biju uzrakst\u012bjis, ka cena ir pieci rub\u013ci. T\u0113vs pa\u0113da vakari\u0146as virtuv\u0113, n\u0101ca uz galveno istabi\u0146u, pa\u0146\u0113ma savu av\u012bzi un to las\u012bja, s\u0113d\u0113dams pie kr\u0101sns. Un, kad savu av\u012bzi vi\u0146\u0161 bija izskat\u012bjis, tas bija tas br\u012bdis, kad es pieg\u0101ju vi\u0146am kl\u0101t pie s\u0101na un pasniedzu pirmo “M\u0101jas Viesi”. Vi\u0146\u0161 pa\u0146\u0113ma, neko nesaprata. Bet tad vi\u0146\u0161 s\u0101ka lapot, kaut ko pat ielas\u012bjas drusku, tad atkal lapoja. Un, izlapojis l\u012bdz galam, vi\u0146\u0161 ar\u012b ierauga to cenu. Un es dom\u0101ju \u2013 ko teiks? Vi\u0146\u0161 neko neteica.<\/p>\n

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Vi\u0146\u0161 piec\u0113l\u0101s no kr\u0113sla, pieg\u0101ja pie galda, un tur bija \u017eakete. Izvilka no \u017eaketes naudas maku, attais\u012bja va\u013c\u0101, iz\u0146\u0113ma sarkano desmitnieku un iedeva man.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Es vi\u0146am saku \u2013 man nav, ko izdot! Un vi\u0146\u0161 man atbild\u0113ja, ka nekas nav j\u0101izdod! Teica, ka par darbu.<\/p>\n

Vai teica, ka j\u0101dal\u0101s ar br\u0101li?\u00a0<\/p>\n

N\u0113, n\u0113. Kaut kas bija par to, ka darbs ir j\u0101nov\u0113rt\u0113.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\"DzejnieksDzejnieks Viks<\/p>\n

Foto: Arnolds Auzi\u0146\u0161 \/ Latvijas Radio<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Vec\u0101kais br\u0101lis Viktors un jaun\u0101kais br\u0101lis Imants \u2013 rado\u0161i jau kop\u0161 b\u0113rn\u012bbas\u00a0<\/p>\n

(..) Un k\u0101di j\u016bs abi bij\u0101t br\u0101l\u012b\u0161i savai mammai?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Es dom\u0101ju, ka mums izdev\u0101s t\u0101 \u010detrrind\u012bte, ko t\u0113vs mums m\u0101c\u012bja \u2013 m\u0113s bij\u0101m divi br\u0101l\u012b\u0161i, m\u0113s m\u012b\u013ci dz\u012bvoj\u0101m, vilk\u0101m vienus z\u0101baci\u0146us katrs reizi k\u0101ji\u0146\u0101\u2026\u00a0<\/p>\n

Viktors ir vec\u0101kais br\u0101lis, Imants \u2013 jaun\u0101kais. K\u0101da jums ir dz\u012bves hierarhija? Ir vec\u0101k\u0101 un jaun\u0101k\u0101 br\u0101\u013ca attiec\u012bbas biju\u0161as? Un vai vec\u0101kajam kaut k\u0101dos str\u012bdos bija ar\u012b gala v\u0101rds? K\u0101da jums t\u0101 mijiedarb\u012bba bija?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Nav jau biju\u0161i \u012bsten\u012bb\u0101 nek\u0101di konflikti. Nav biju\u0161i. Ko lai saka \u2013 labi sadz\u012bvoj\u0101m. Un v\u0113l\u0101k jau bija tas skolas laiks, un tad jau viena epizode ir t\u0101da, ka m\u0113s kop\u012bgi gatavoj\u0101m akvare\u013cu izst\u0101di. Iesp\u0113jams, ka iniciat\u012bva n\u0101ca no manis, bet m\u0113s abi m\u012bl\u0113j\u0101m kaut ko uz pap\u012bra ar akvare\u013cu kr\u0101s\u0101m likt. Un tad izdom\u0101j\u0101m, ka j\u0101sar\u012bko izst\u0101de. Bija pievakare, un, kam\u0113r visi lielie virtuv\u0113 nodarboj\u0101s ar savu \u0113\u0161anas ritu\u0101lu, m\u0113s abi salik\u0101m dien\u0101 uzz\u012bm\u0113tos akvare\u013cus istab\u0101 pa galdu, pie sien\u0101m un plauktiem, bet pa\u0161i \u0101tri iet\u0113rp\u0101mies kaut k\u0101dos t\u0113rpos. Mammai bija skap\u012b v\u0113l no Ulma\u0146a laikiem divas t\u0101das cepures ar plat\u0101m mal\u0101m. Uzlik\u0101m t\u0101s galv\u0101, kaut k\u0101das bl\u016bzes v\u0113l uzmet\u0101m virs\u016b, \u0161alles aps\u0113j\u0101m ri\u0146\u0137\u012b un ap vidu. Nost\u0101ju\u0161ies pie durv\u012bm, m\u0113s pazi\u0146oj\u0101m, ka ir atv\u0113rta akvare\u013cu gleznu izst\u0101de.\u00a0<\/p>\n

T\u0101da k\u0101 m\u0101kslas performance san\u0101ca.\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101. Un tad, kad vi\u0146i jau to \u0113\u0161anu\u00a0bija pabeigu\u0161i, n\u0101ca skat\u012bties. Mamma, paps, vecmamma ar\u012b. Un m\u0113s pie durv\u012bm st\u0101v\u0113j\u0101m k\u0101 goda sargi. Taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b no “5A” dz\u012bvok\u013ca, kur dz\u012bvoja t\u0101da Vintere, n\u0101ca pie mammas kaut ko teikt vai run\u0101t. Un vi\u0146a tr\u0101p\u012bj\u0101s tie\u0161i uz izst\u0101des br\u012bdi. Un vi\u0146a ien\u0101k un skat\u0101s, un nesaprot. Un mamma teica \u2013 mums b\u0113rni sar\u012bkoju\u0161i izst\u0101di.<\/p>\n

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Tad vi\u0146a ieraudz\u012bja tos akvare\u013cus, \u0101tri aizg\u0101ja prom, bet p\u0113c br\u012b\u017ea jau bija atpaka\u013c un deva tr\u012bs rub\u013cus mums.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

M\u0113s m\u0113\u0123in\u0101j\u0101m attur\u0113ties, bet vi\u0146a teica, ka m\u0101ksla ir j\u0101atbalsta. Un tik spieda sauj\u0101.\u00a0<\/p>\n

K\u0101da jums ar Imantu ir t\u0101 br\u0101\u013cu b\u016b\u0161ana? Jums ir biju\u0161i laiki, kad katru dienu sazvan\u0101ties, bet tad ir biju\u0161i ar\u012b periodi, kad var ar\u012b m\u0113ne\u0161iem ilgi nesazin\u0101ties?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Agr\u0101k bija t\u0101, ka vasar\u0101s es m\u0113dzu brauk\u0101t ar saviem puik\u0101m, kam\u0113r vi\u0146i bija mazi\u0146i, uz Piebalgu pie Imanta. Vi\u0146\u0161 gan teica, ka istab\u0101 mums r\u016bmes nav, bet m\u0113s pal\u016bdz\u0101m vietu k\u016btsaug\u0161\u0101. Un ar vi\u0146a sv\u0113t\u012bbu un at\u013cauju m\u0113s ier\u012bkoj\u0101m ar pui\u0161e\u013ciem tur t\u0101du midzeni. Un to es ied\u0113v\u0113ju par vasaras pili. V\u0113l\u0101k tapa viena mana gr\u0101mata, ko es t\u0101 ar\u012b nod\u0113v\u0113ju. Par “Vasaras pili”.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tas ir tajos laikos. Bet k\u0101 ir \u0161ajos laikos?\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u0160ajos laikos ir cit\u0101di, j\u0101. Tad, kad Imis t\u0101 regul\u0101r\u0101k brauk\u0101ja uz Piebalgu vasar\u0101, bet nu jau laikam otro vasaru vairs nebrauc, tad vi\u0146i abi ar Agri\u0146u ieskr\u0113ja pie manis, dz\u012bvojot to m\u0113nesi vai divus, vai cik nu tur izn\u0101ca. Tad vi\u0146i no t\u0101s Piebalgas pie manis iegriez\u0101s. Bet bija t\u0101di laiki, kad Imants Liep\u0101j\u0101 dz\u012bvoja, un es dz\u012bvoju R\u012bg\u0101, un tad jau neizn\u0101ca tik bie\u017ei tikties.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Kad j\u016bs tagad p\u0113d\u0113jo reizi esat sazin\u0101ju\u0161ies? Un ko j\u016bs apsprie\u017eat, kad sazvan\u0101ties?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Tas bija sen. Tagad jau t\u0101 komunik\u0101cija ir reta. Bet es vi\u0146am zvanu noteikti taj\u0101s dien\u0101s, kas mums \u0123imen\u0113 ir svar\u012bgas. T\u0101s ir m\u016bsu dzim\u0161anas dienas, v\u0101rda dienas. Ar\u012b aizg\u0101ju\u0161o. Un tad m\u0113s atceramies, k\u0101 tas bija toreiz. (..)\u00a0<\/p>\n

Rado\u0161i sadarbojas ar\u012b k\u0101 pieaugu\u0161i profesion\u0101\u013ci <\/p>\n

Bet j\u016bs ar br\u0101li esat daudz sadarboju\u0161ies ar\u012b rado\u0161i. Viens no pirmajiem rado\u0161\u0101s sadarb\u012bbas fiks\u0113jumiem ir Liep\u0101jas te\u0101tra izr\u0101de “Princis un ubaga z\u0113ns”, kuras m\u016bzikas autors ir Imants Kalni\u0146s, bet libreta un v\u0101rdu autors ir Viktors Kalni\u0146\u0161. 1968. gads. (..) <\/p>\n

J\u0101, bet es neesmu libreta autors. Libretu uzrakst\u012bja Andrejs Migla, bet mans pienesums \u0161ai izr\u0101dei ir dziesmu teksti.<\/p>\n

Un “Zelta haizivs” ir viena no t\u0101m dziesm\u0101m, kas ir p\u0101rdz\u012bvojusi izr\u0101di un skan arvien \u2013 ar\u012b \u0161ajos laikos. K\u0101 jums s\u0101k\u0101s t\u0101 rado\u0161\u0101 kopdarb\u012bba ar Imantu?<\/p>\n

Tas jau nebija nekas t\u0101ds iepriek\u0161 izdom\u0101ts. Pirm\u0101 dziesmi\u0146a rad\u0101s t\u0101p\u0113c, ka Andrejam Miglam vajadz\u0113ja vienu muzik\u0101lu priek\u0161nesumu vi\u0146a iestud\u0113taj\u0101 izr\u0101d\u0113 “M\u012bla, d\u017eezs un velns” Liep\u0101jas te\u0101tr\u012b 1967. gad\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 bija atbraucis pie Imanta uz R\u012bgu, un vi\u0146i abi bija izdom\u0101ju\u0161i, ka es var\u0113tu b\u016bt teksta autors \u0161im muzik\u0101lajam priek\u0161nesumam.<\/p>\n

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Vi\u0146i iedeva man t\u0101s epizodes prozas materi\u0101lu, lai es iejustos un saprastu, par ko vajag dziesmu, un es uzrakst\u012bju. Un Imants pierakst\u012bja kl\u0101t m\u016bziku.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Liep\u0101jas av\u012bze “Komunists” to tekstu nodruk\u0101ja ar vis\u0101m not\u012bm. Man kaut kur arh\u012bv\u0101 tas av\u012bzes numurs ir saglab\u0101jies. Tas bija tas pirmais. Un tad, kad vi\u0146iem te\u0101tr\u012b rad\u0101s ideja par “Princi un ubaga z\u0113nu”, vi\u0146iem \u0161\u0137ita, ka es var\u0113tu ar tiem v\u0101rdiem tikt gal\u0101.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Vik, v\u0113l viens j\u016bsu kopdarbs no 70. gadiem, kas ar\u012b dz\u012bvo v\u0113l arvien, ir “Betas dziesmi\u0146a”. (..)\u00a0<\/p>\n

“Betas dziesmi\u0146a” ar\u012b rad\u0101s tie\u0161i t\u0101 \u2013 Andrejs Migla ar Imantu pal\u016bdza, ka vi\u0146iem vajag izr\u0101dei “M\u012bla, d\u017eezs un velns” t\u0101du “Betas dziesmi\u0146u”. Tas bija vien\u012bgais muzik\u0101lais numurs tai izr\u0101dei. Es, starp citu, to izr\u0101di redz\u0113ju tikai viesizr\u0101des versij\u0101 Bausk\u0101. Dom\u0101ju \u2013 Bauska nav t\u0101lu no R\u012bgas. Tur es ar\u012b vien\u012bgo reizi to redz\u0113ju.\u00a0<\/p>\n

V\u0113l viens pamat\u012bgs kopdarbs ar br\u0101li ir 80. gadu s\u0101kuma \u2013 opera “Ifig\u0113nija Aul\u012bd\u0101”.<\/p>\n

Man \u012bsten\u012bb\u0101 par \u0161o ir maz, ko teikt, jo t\u0101 ir piln\u012bb\u0101 Imanta ideja. Ac\u012bmredzot, vi\u0146\u0161 bija \u013coti p\u0101r\u0146emts par to ideju un darba materi\u0101lu. (..) Vi\u0146u tas materi\u0101ls bija t\u0101 uzrun\u0101jis, ka vi\u0146\u0161 juta, ka vajag. Un m\u016bzika vi\u0146am ar\u012b dev\u0101s rok\u0101. Bet man vair\u0101k vai maz\u0101k tas bija tehnisks darbs \u2013 str\u0101d\u0101t ar jau gandr\u012bz visu gatavu. Tas nek\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 nav ori\u0123in\u0101ldarbs.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Bet viens no j\u016bsu kopdarbiem, kas nu jau k\u013cuvis par v\u0113rt\u012bbu ar\u012b teju katros dziesmu un deju sv\u0113tkos, ir “Dziesma, ar ko tu s\u0101ksies”. \u0160\u012bs dziesmas st\u0101sts ir saist\u012bts ar grupu “Menuets” un t\u0101s desmito jubileju. Toreiz bija te\u0101tra izr\u0101de “Cilv\u0113ks, kas smejas”, un beig\u0101s t\u0101 iestud\u0113ta netika, bet no \u0161\u012bs izr\u0101des palika \u0161\u012b “Dziesma, ar ko tu s\u0101ksies”. T\u0101 “Mikrofona aptauj\u0101” pat iek\u013cuva otraj\u0101 viet\u0101. Ja neb\u016btu \u010dekas iejauk\u0161an\u0101s, kas to lai zina, varb\u016bt pat b\u016btu pirm\u0101 vieta \u2013 tas ir tas, ko es atrodu m\u016bzikas v\u0113stures aprakstos. Cik daudz tur ir taisn\u012bbas, un cik daudz ir m\u012btu? Vai t\u0101 ir taisn\u012bba, ko es saku?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Bija t\u0101, ka Andrim Jakub\u0101nam bija dzimusi ideja, ka vajadz\u0113tu izveidot izr\u0101di p\u0113c [Viktora] Igo darba “Cilv\u0113ks, kas smejas”. Es biju dramatiz\u0113jis \u0161o rom\u0101nu un iedom\u0101jies, ka t\u0101 j\u0101taisa k\u0101 t\u0101da “tot\u0101l\u0101 izr\u0101de”, kas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka tur bija ne tikai te\u0101tris, bet ar\u012b pantom\u012bma, m\u016bzika.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Un “Menuets”.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Uz skatuves jau glu\u017ei ne. Bet bija doma, ka tas b\u016bs rikt\u012bgs\u2026 K\u0101 tagad saka \u2013 gr\u0101v\u0113js. Bestsellers. Un vi\u0146\u0161 to darbu man p\u0101rst\u0101st\u012bja, atz\u012bm\u0113jis vietas, kur vajag m\u016bziku un dziesmas, dejas. Visu ko vi\u0146\u0161 tur jau bija satais\u012bjis gatavu sav\u0101 izt\u0113l\u0113. Un Imantam bija paredz\u0113ts kompon\u0113t m\u016bziku pie maniem tekstiem. Bet vispirms vajadz\u0113ja tekstu. Un es s\u0101ku str\u0101d\u0101t.<\/p>\n

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Rakst\u012bju, bet Jakub\u0101nam san\u0101ca kaut k\u0101das domstarp\u012bbas ar Andreju Miglu. Es nezinu, k\u0101d\u0101 jaut\u0101jum\u0101, bet, visticam\u0101k, par l\u012bgumiem. L\u012bdz ar to Jakub\u0101ns atteic\u0101s no sadarb\u012bbas, un viss bija v\u0113j\u0101.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Savus sacer\u0113tos tekstus es noliku arh\u012bv\u0101. G\u0101ja laiks, un vienu dienu Imants man zvan\u012bja no Liep\u0101jas un jaut\u0101ja, vai man nav k\u0101ds teksts. Vi\u0146am pras\u012bj\u0101s rakst\u012bt m\u016bziku tekstiem taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b. Un es saku \u2013 speci\u0101li jau es neko nerakstu. Bet tad es \u012bsum\u0101 atst\u0101st\u012bju \u0161o v\u0113sturi, ka man ir teksti izr\u0101dei, kas netiks realiz\u0113ti. Un vi\u0146\u0161 man teica, lai iedodu paskat\u012bties.<\/p>\n

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Es iedevu, un rezult\u0101ts bija t\u0101ds, ka vi\u0146\u0161 \u010detriem maniem tekstiem uzkompon\u0113ja m\u016bziku.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Un viens no tiem ir “Dziesma, ar ko tu s\u0101ksies”.\u00a0<\/p>\n

J\u0101. Bija paredz\u0113ts, ka te\u0101tr\u012b vi\u0146u dzied\u0101s koris. Un tur bija ar\u012b “Gvinpl\u0113na dziesma”, “Dziesma, kas neko nenoskaidro”, “Pieci pirksti”, kuras nosaukumu, starp citu, M\u0101ra Z\u0101l\u012bte aiz\u0146\u0113m\u0101s, lai ieliktu savas gr\u0101matas nosaukum\u0101. (..)\u00a0<\/p>\n

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