\u010culpana Hamatova, Ma\u0161a Ma\u0161kova un Vasilijs Zorkijs uz Tallinu atved\u012bs unik\u0101lu te\u0101tra projektu \u2013 iestud\u0113jumu, kas balst\u012bts uz Ivana V\u012bripajeva, viena no atz\u012bt\u0101kajiem m\u016bsdienu Eiropas dramaturgiem, lugu “Vien\u012bgie gar\u0101kie koki uz Zemes”. Sarun\u0101 ar Igaunijas mediju \u201cPostimees\u201d pirms iera\u0161an\u0101s Tallin\u0101 \u010culpana Hamatova st\u0101st\u012bja par dz\u012bvi Latvij\u0101, latvie\u0161u valodas apguvi un atkl\u0101ja savus pl\u0101nus jaunajam gadam.<\/p>\n
N\u0101kamned\u0113\u013c, 5. janv\u0101r\u012b, j\u016bs ierad\u012bsieties Tallin\u0101 ar lugu “Vien\u012bgie augst\u0101kie koki uz Zemes”. Lasot kopsavilkumu, tik daudz tiek teikts par v\u0101rdu formu un ritmu, bet gandr\u012bz nekas netiek atkl\u0101ts par si\u017eetu. K\u0101 j\u016bs iepaz\u012bstin\u0101tu skat\u012bt\u0101jus ar lugu?<\/p>\n
T\u0101 k\u0101 \u0161ai lugai nav tradicion\u0101la si\u017eeta, nav daudz ko st\u0101st\u012bt… Divas draudzenes, zaud\u0113ju\u0161as cer\u012bbu, ka labais uzvar\u0113s \u013caunumu, apsprie\u017e \u0161o pasauli. Vi\u0146i cen\u0161as sev pier\u0101d\u012bt, ka \u0161aj\u0101 pasaul\u0113 vairs nav cer\u012bbas, jo cilv\u0113ki ir tik \u013coti samait\u0101ju\u0161i visu sev apk\u0101rt un savas dv\u0113seles, ka vairs nav absol\u016bti nek\u0101, uz ko cer\u0113t.
L\u012bdz br\u012bdim, kad par\u0101d\u0101s tre\u0161ais t\u0113ls, kuru atveido Vasja Zorkijs, – t\u0113ls v\u0101rd\u0101 Bon\u010ds. Vi\u0146\u0161 b\u0113rni\u0161\u0137\u012bgi un vienk\u0101r\u0161i paskaidro, ka visa gaisma un cer\u012bba sl\u0113pjas vi\u0146os pa\u0161os. J\u016bs varat vainot pasauli, cik vien v\u0113laties, bet, ja vi\u0146i pa\u0161i nerada cer\u012bbu, nav neviena, ko vainot. Pasaule ir t\u0101da, k\u0101da t\u0101 ir, un cer\u012bba ir m\u016bsu rok\u0101s.<\/p>\n
J\u016bs run\u0101j\u0101t par skat\u012bt\u0101ju mijiedarb\u012bbas noz\u012bmi. Un k\u0101das saj\u016btas jums paliek p\u0113c priek\u0161kara kri\u0161anas?<\/p>\n
Viss ir atkar\u012bgs no skat\u012bt\u0101jiem. \u0160\u012b izr\u0101de prasa sadarb\u012bbu ar skat\u012bt\u0101jiem, jo teksts ir \u013coti bl\u012bvs un diezgan gr\u016bti saprotams. Ja skat\u012bt\u0101ji ir gatavi ar mums sadarboties, emocion\u0101li un gar\u012bgi sazin\u0101ties, tas atst\u0101j \u013coti labas saj\u016btas. Ja n\u0113, tas nav tik pat\u012bkami. Bet mums trim \u0161\u012b izr\u0101de \u013coti pat\u012bk.<\/p>\n
Run\u0101jot par darbu ar auditoriju, b\u016btu interesanti uzzin\u0101t, vai ir k\u0101das iez\u012bmes, kas rakstur\u012bgas tikai Tallinas auditorijai. Ar ko t\u0101 at\u0161\u0137iras no cit\u0101m?<\/p>\n
Ziniet, es dom\u0101ju, ka viss ir atkar\u012bgs no vides, kur\u0101 bi\u013cetes tiek izplat\u012btas. Da\u017ei cilv\u0113ki, iesp\u0113jams, b\u016bs \u0161ok\u0113ti par izr\u0101di, jo vi\u0146i ir pieradu\u0161i pie akad\u0113miskas uztveres formas. Ja b\u016bs daudz jaunie\u0161u, es dom\u0101ju, ka vi\u0146iem b\u016bs viegl\u0101k kaut k\u0101 ar mums sazin\u0101ties.
Kas ir te\u0101tra skaistums? Tas ir tas, ka kaut kas notiek \u0161eit un tagad – da\u017ereiz br\u012bnums, da\u017ereiz tikai izr\u0101de – un tas nekad vairs neatk\u0101rtosies. Tas pats attiecas uz auditoriju. Da\u017ereiz ir kritisk\u0101 masa cilv\u0113ku, kas ir gatavi sazin\u0101ties – smieties, aiztur\u0113t elpu, saglab\u0101t klusumu. Vi\u0146u skaits ir liel\u0101ks nek\u0101 cilv\u0113ku, kas vienk\u0101r\u0161i n\u0101k skat\u012bties popul\u0101rus m\u0101ksliniekus. Un tad izr\u0101de notiek.
Un da\u017ereiz visa auditorija paliek atsve\u0161in\u0101ta, auksta. Tas var\u0113tu notikt jebkur – ar\u012b karstaj\u0101 un emocion\u0101laj\u0101 Gruzij\u0101 vai Tallin\u0101.
Es \u013coti priec\u0101\u0161os 5. janv\u0101r\u012b redz\u0113t jaunu auditoriju. Varb\u016bt tos, kas mani v\u0113l nav redz\u0113ju\u0161i te\u0101tr\u012b, un pat tos, kas ir redz\u0113ju\u0161i. Tas b\u016bs neparasti, varb\u016bt da\u017eiem pat par daudz. Bet n\u0101ciet, m\u0113s ceram j\u016bs uz\u0146emt!<\/p>\n
Past\u0101stiet par j\u016bsu dz\u012bvi Latvij\u0101, uz kurieni j\u016bs p\u0101rc\u0113l\u0101ties 2022. gad\u0101. K\u0101 \u0161\u012b valsts jums atkl\u0101ja sevi?<\/p>\n
Man par kaunu, es Latviju nemaz nepazinu. M\u0113s tur ieg\u0101d\u0101j\u0101mies zemi pirms 15 gadiem. Es pamaz\u0101m uzc\u0113lu m\u0101ju, un m\u0113s turp brauc\u0101m vasaras br\u012bvdien\u0101s, lab\u0101kaj\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 uz m\u0113nesi gad\u0101.<\/p>\n
Reiz\u0113m m\u0113s atbrauc\u0101m un svin\u0113j\u0101m Jaungada br\u012bvdienas. Tas ar\u012b viss. Es neko nezin\u0101ju par \u0161o skaisto valsti vai cilv\u0113kiem.
Bet, protams, kad s\u0101ku tur dz\u012bvot un satikt viet\u0113jos iedz\u012bvot\u0101jus, kad iem\u0101c\u012bjos valodu un s\u0101ku dzird\u0113t un saprast, ko run\u0101 uz iel\u0101m, kad devos str\u0101d\u0101t uz latvie\u0161u valodas te\u0101tri, tad satiku br\u012bni\u0161\u0137\u012bgus kol\u0113\u0123us, apbr\u012bnojamu komandu…
Nesen \u013coti ilgi str\u0101d\u0101ju Amerik\u0101, un man pietr\u016bka m\u0101ju. Un p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i pie\u0137\u0113ru sevi pie domas, ka nemaz nedom\u0101ju par Maskavu, dom\u0101ju tikai par R\u012bgu.<\/p>\n
J\u016bs jau min\u0113j\u0101t, ka p\u0113c p\u0101rcel\u0161an\u0101s s\u0101k\u0101t m\u0101c\u012bties latvie\u0161u valodu. Cik gr\u016bti jums tas bija?<\/p>\n
Tas ir gr\u016bti, jo t\u0101 ir tik nepaz\u012bstama. Latvie\u0161u valoda nel\u012bdzin\u0101s nevienai no valod\u0101m, ko es jau zinu – ne ang\u013cu, ne v\u0101cu. Taj\u0101 joproj\u0101m ir da\u017ei senkrievu v\u0101rdi, kas att\u0101li atg\u0101dina krievu valodu.
Visgr\u016bt\u0101k\u0101 man k\u0101 aktrisei ir fon\u0113tika, \u012bpa\u0161i izruna. Un \u0161aj\u0101 jom\u0101 es joproj\u0101m krietni atpalieku. Es jau cen\u0161os tai piev\u0113rst uzman\u012bbu, jo s\u0101kum\u0101 man vajadz\u0113ja tikai iem\u0101c\u012bties v\u0101rdus.
Un tas, ka es s\u0101ku m\u0101c\u012bties valodu, nedom\u0101jot par fon\u0113tiku, bija mana k\u013c\u016bda. Es iesaku ikvienam, kas to apg\u016bst, s\u0101kt ar fon\u0113tiku, ja v\u0113laties, lai latvie\u0161i j\u016bs saprastu (smejas).<\/p>\n
Vai jums ir k\u0101ds iecien\u012bt\u0101kais v\u0101rds vai izteiciens latvie\u0161u valod\u0101?<\/p>\n
Krievu v\u0101rds \u201cciest\u201d latvie\u0161u valod\u0101 noz\u012bm\u0113 “str\u0101d\u0101t”. \u201cStrada” bija ar\u012b vissmag\u0101k\u0101 darba laiks, kad bija nepiecie\u0161ama ra\u017eas nov\u0101k\u0161ana un cilv\u0113kiem bija j\u0101str\u0101d\u0101 praktiski visu diennakti. Un paties\u012bb\u0101 \u0161\u012b noz\u012bme ir saglab\u0101jusies latvie\u0161u valod\u0101, bet krievu valod\u0101 t\u0101 ir ieguvusi pavisam citu noz\u012bmi.
Kad s\u0101ku dz\u012bvot Latvij\u0101 un m\u0101c\u012bties valodu, mani visvair\u0101k p\u0101rsteidza tas, ka Padomju Savien\u012bbas laik\u0101 m\u0113s gandr\u012bz neko nezin\u0101j\u0101m par republik\u0101m, kas bija t\u0101s sast\u0101v\u0101. Nemaz nerun\u0101jot par to, ka, kad Latvija ieguva neatkar\u012bbu un k\u013cuva par atsevi\u0161\u0137u valsti, m\u0113s ar\u012b par to neko nezin\u0101j\u0101m.
Es dom\u0101ju, ka, iesp\u0113jams, b\u016btu maz\u0101k karu un konfliktu, ja b\u0113rni jau no skolas laikiem saprastu, k\u0101das valstis ir vi\u0146u kaimi\u0146i. Es dom\u0101ju, ka tas ir \u013coti, \u013coti svar\u012bgi.<\/p>\n
T\u016bl\u012bt b\u016bs Jaungads. K\u0101di ir j\u016bsu pl\u0101ni 31. decembrim?<\/p>\n
Nosvin\u0113t sv\u0113tkus kop\u0101 ar \u0123imeni un draugiem. Mums b\u016bs \u013coti, \u013coti liela komp\u0101nija. M\u0113s visi pulc\u0113simies m\u0101j\u0101, ko es reiz uzc\u0113lu. Nezinu, cik cilv\u0113ku… Dro\u0161i vien b\u016bsim tr\u012bsdesmit – b\u0113rni, vec\u0101ki… T\u0101tad vismaz tr\u012bs paaudzes noteikti b\u016bs kop\u0101.<\/p>\n
Tagad ir mod\u0113 veidot v\u0113lmju kartes, uz pap\u012bra lapas pierakst\u012bt v\u0113lmes un m\u0113r\u0137us n\u0101kamajam gadam. Vai j\u016bs kaut ko t\u0101du dar\u0101t?<\/p>\n
N\u0113, es neticu \u0161ai saiknei. Noteikti n\u0113. Viss labais, kas man dz\u012bv\u0113 ir n\u0101cis, ir bijis spont\u0101ns un piln\u012bgi negaid\u012bts. Man ir tikai viena v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s – lai mani m\u012b\u013cie b\u016btu veseli. P\u0101r\u0113jo var p\u0101rdz\u012bvot!
Jo laime ir gribas jaut\u0101jums. Ja tu to v\u0113lies, tu esi laim\u012bgs; ja nev\u0113lies, tu esi nelaim\u012bgs. Ja nav kara, ja nekr\u012bt bumbas, ja tuvinieki nemirst vai nesaslimst ar k\u0101du nopietnu slim\u012bbu, visu p\u0101r\u0113jo var iztur\u0113t.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u010culpana Hamatova, Ma\u0161a Ma\u0161kova un Vasilijs Zorkijs uz Tallinu atved\u012bs unik\u0101lu te\u0101tra projektu \u2013 iestud\u0113jumu, kas balst\u012bts uz…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":90581,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[89,90,35,39,38,36,37,34,40],"class_list":{"0":"post-90580","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-izklaide","8":"tag-entertainment","9":"tag-izklaide","10":"tag-latvia","11":"tag-latvian","12":"tag-latviesu","13":"tag-latviesu-valoda","14":"tag-latviesuvaloda","15":"tag-latvija","16":"tag-lv"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@lv\/115812681798151912","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90580","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=90580"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90580\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/90581"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=90580"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=90580"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=90580"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}