{"id":269783,"date":"2026-08-20T17:56:13","date_gmt":"2026-08-20T17:56:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ro\/269783\/"},"modified":"2026-08-20T17:56:13","modified_gmt":"2026-08-20T17:56:13","slug":"de-ce-au-ajuns-ucrainenii-nascuti-in-teritoriile-ocupate-sa-lupte-pentru-rusia-marturii-dintr-o-tabara-de-prizonieri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ro\/269783\/","title":{"rendered":"De ce au ajuns ucrainenii n\u0103scu\u021bi \u00een teritoriile ocupate s\u0103 lupte pentru Rusia. M\u0103rturii dintr-o tab\u0103r\u0103 de prizonieri"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jurnali\u0219tii BBC au<br \/>\nmers \u00eentr-o tab\u0103r\u0103 de prizonieri din vestul Ucrainei pentru a vorbi cu solda\u021bi<br \/>\nn\u0103scu\u021bi \u00een aceast\u0103 \u021bar\u0103, dar care au luptat pentru Rusia, \u00eencerc\u00e2nd s\u0103 afle ce<br \/>\ni-a f\u0103cut s\u0103 \u00eembrace uniforma armatei lui Putin.<\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/1787248573_127_index.jpeg\" alt=\"Prizonierii ucraineni care au luptat pentru Rusia, doar o moned\u0103 de schimb. FOTO: arhiv\u0103\" width=\"1157\" height=\"750\" loading=\"eager\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class=\"svelte-1kfbksm\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>Prizonierii ucraineni care au luptat pentru Rusia, doar o moned\u0103 de schimb. FOTO: arhiv\u0103<\/p>\n<p>publicitate&#8221;); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat;&#8221;&gt;<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen spatele zidurilor<br \/>\n\u00eenalte \u0219i care str\u0103juiesc o tab\u0103r\u0103 de prizonieri din Vestul Ucrainei se afl\u0103 \u00een<br \/>\nprincipal militari recruta\u021bi din Rusia, inclusiv din ora\u0219e precum Sankt<br \/>\nPetersburg \u0219i Ekaterinburg. Printre ei sunt \u00eens\u0103 \u0219i ucraineni din teritoriile<br \/>\nocupate de Rusia, iar pove\u0219tile lor arat\u0103 c\u00e2t de mult s-a schimbat \u015fi c\u00e2t de<br \/>\ncomplicat\u0103 este identitatea unei genera\u021bii care a crescut sub controlul<br \/>\nMoscovei.<\/p>\n<p>Jurnali\u0219tii <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/cn9nr195drzo?at_medium=RSS&amp;at_campaign=rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">BBC <\/a>au discutat<br \/>\ncu mai mul\u021bi dintre ace\u015ftia pentru a afla cum au ajuns s\u0103 poarte uniforma rus\u0103.<br \/>\nEi le-au oferit prizonierilor posibilitatea de a refuza discu\u021bia \u0219i au stat de<br \/>\nvorb\u0103 cu cei care au acceptat \u00een locuri \u00een care nu se aflau gardieni \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103<br \/>\ncamere de filmat. <\/p>\n<p> \u201eM\u0103 consider rus&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Pentru autorit\u0103\u021bile<br \/>\nde la Kiev, cazul ucrainenilor captura\u021bi \u00een timp ce luptau pentru Rusia este<br \/>\ncomplicat. Ace\u0219tia sunt judeca\u021bi pentru tr\u0103dare, apoi ajung \u00een lag\u0103rele pentru<br \/>\nprizonieri de r\u0103zboi \u00eempreun\u0103 cu militarii ru\u0219i. Oficial, Ucraina \u00eei consider\u0103<br \/>\n\u00een continuare cet\u0103\u021benii s\u0103i, iar ocupa\u021bia rus\u0103 asupra regiunilor din care<br \/>\nprovin este privit\u0103 ca una temporar\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Anton avea 10 ani<br \/>\nc\u00e2nd for\u021bele loiale Kremlinului au preluat controlul asupra zonei din <a href=\"https:\/\/adevarul.ro\/stiri-externe\/rusia\/cad-capete-in-armata-rusa-putin-schimba-2547912.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Donbas <\/a>\u00een<br \/>\ncare locuia. Zece ani mai t\u00e2rziu, \u00een 2022, c\u00e2nd Vladimir Putin a declan\u0219at<br \/>\ninvazia pe scar\u0103 larg\u0103 \u00een Ucraina, tocmai \u00eemplinise 18 ani \u0219i a decis s\u0103 se<br \/>\n\u00eenroleze \u00een armata rus\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Anton nu prive\u015fte<br \/>\ndecizia sa ca o tr\u0103dare \u0219i spune c\u0103, din punctul s\u0103u de vedere, \u00ee\u0219i ap\u0103r\u0103<br \/>\npropriul teritoriu. <\/p>\n<p>\u201eNu regret alegerea mea. Am plecat s\u0103-mi ap\u0103r p\u0103m\u00e2ntul\u201d, m\u0103rturise\u015fte el, povestind c\u0103 \u0219i prietenii s\u0103i s-au<br \/>\noferit voluntari, \u00eens\u0103 mul\u021bi dintre ei nu s-au mai \u00eentors de pe front: \u201eApoi prime\u0219ti mesajele SMS. Mort, mort,<br \/>\nmort\u201d&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>publicitate&#8221;); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat;&#8221;&gt;<\/p>\n<p>Petro Iatsenko,<br \/>\nreprezentant al centrului ucrainean de coordonare pentru prizonierii de r\u0103zboi,<br \/>\nspune c\u0103 realitatea este una complicat\u0103: \u201eSunt<br \/>\nfoarte pro-ru\u0219i, iar identitatea lor na\u021bional\u0103 este foarte neclar\u0103\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Anton este unul<br \/>\ndintre exemplele cele mai clare. Pentru el, leg\u0103tura cu Ucraina nu reprezint\u0103<br \/>\nun argument suficient pentru a se considera ucrainean. <\/p>\n<p>\u201eM\u0103 consider rus. O \u021bar\u0103 nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 nimic, totul \u021bine de<br \/>\nna\u021bionalitate. Toat\u0103 familia mea este din Rusia. Toate r\u0103d\u0103cinile mele sunt de<br \/>\nacolo\u201d, spune el. <\/p>\n<p>Nici numele de<br \/>\nfamilie, care are o sonoritate ucrainean\u0103, nu \u00eel face s\u0103-\u0219i pun\u0103 la \u00eendoial\u0103<br \/>\naceast\u0103 identitate.<\/p>\n<p>Anton a crescut<br \/>\n\u00eentr-o regiune aflat\u0103 sub controlul Moscovei, unde educa\u021bia \u0219i presa au ajuns<br \/>\ns\u0103 fie dominate de discursul Kremlinului. De ani buni, autorit\u0103\u021bile de la Kiev<br \/>\nsunt prezentate acolo drept \u201enazistei\u201d \u0219i ilegitime, iar dup\u0103 invazia din 2022,<br \/>\nacest model de control s-a extins asupra altor teritorii ocupate.<\/p>\n<p>T\u00e2n\u0103rul a preluat<br \/>\nacest discurs \u0219i \u00eel nume\u015fte pe Vladimir Putin \u201epre\u0219edintele meu\u201d. Mai mult, crede c\u0103 liderul de la Kremlin ar<br \/>\ntrebui s\u0103 continue r\u0103zboiul p\u00e2n\u0103 la cucerirea \u00eentregului Donbas, de\u0219i luptele<br \/>\npentru acest teritoriu au costat deja via\u021ba a sute de mii de oameni.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eEste p\u0103cat c\u0103 au murit oameni, mai ales cei nevinova\u021bi. Dar<br \/>\nr\u0103zboiul este r\u0103zboi. Putea fi \u00eencheiat. Dar nimeni nu a vrut s\u0103 fac\u0103 asta\u201d, mai afirm\u0103 el.<\/p>\n<p> \u201eAvem propriile<br \/>\nnoastre resentimente\u201d <\/p>\n<p>\u00cen spitalul din<br \/>\ntab\u0103r\u0103, BBC l-a \u00eent\u00e2lnit pe Artiom, un alt prizonier originar din Done\u021bk. Are schije<br \/>\n\u00een corp dup\u0103 ce a petrecut aproximativ dou\u0103 luni pe front \u0219i spune c\u0103 s-a<br \/>\n\u00eenrolat voluntar. <\/p>\n<p>publicitate&#8221;); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat;&#8221;&gt;<\/p>\n<p>De data aceasta,<br \/>\n\u00eens\u0103, motivele nu \u021bin doar de identitatea pe care \u0219i-a construit-o \u00een anii<br \/>\nocupa\u021biei, ci \u0219i de experien\u021bele sale din 2014, c\u00e2nd regiunea Done\u021bk a fost<br \/>\nafectat\u0103 de <a href=\"https:\/\/adevarul.ro\/stiri-externe\/europa\/un-an-de-la-declansarea-actiunii-separatiste-in-1613471.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">luptele <\/a>dintre separati\u0219tii pro-ru\u0219i \u0219i for\u021bele ucrainene.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eAvem propriile noastre resentimente\u201d, spune Artiom, referindu-se la bombardamentele din acea<br \/>\nperioad\u0103 \u0219i la \u00eencerc\u0103rile armatei ucrainene de a \u00eempiedica desprinderea<br \/>\nregiunii de Kiev.<\/p>\n<p>Experien\u021ba pe front<br \/>\nnu i-a \u00eent\u0103rit, \u00eens\u0103, \u00eencrederea \u00een armata rus\u0103. Artiom spune c\u0103 ofi\u021berul s\u0103u<br \/>\ncomandant era \u201er\u0103u\u201d \u0219i c\u0103 nici m\u0103car nu a primit prima de 400.000 de ruble<br \/>\npromis\u0103 la \u00eenrolare, \u00een timp ce soldatul rus r\u0103nit aflat \u00een patul de vizavi a<br \/>\nprimit de cinci ori mai mult.<\/p>\n<p> <a class=\"related-inline svelte-78g0vl\" data-gtrack=\"{&quot;event&quot;:&quot;utm_click&quot;,&quot;data&quot;:{&quot;event_category&quot;:&quot;article_related&quot;}}\" href=\"https:\/\/adevarul.ro\/stiri-externe\/rusia\/de-ce-se-tem-soldatii-rusi-de-captivitate-si-de-2496235.html\" title=\"Alt articol de interes pentru tine\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">  De ce se tem solda\u021bii ru\u0219i de captivitate \u0219i de schimburile de prizonieri <\/a><\/p>\n<p>Aproape to\u021bi<br \/>\nucrainenii intervieva\u021bi de BBC provin din teritorii ocupate de Rusia \u00eenc\u0103 din<br \/>\n2014 \u0219i spun c\u0103 au intrat voluntar \u00een armata rus\u0103. <\/p>\n<p>Unul dintre ei face<br \/>\n\u00eens\u0103 excep\u021bie \u0219i sus\u021bine c\u0103 a fost obligat s\u0103 lupte. B\u0103rbatul este din regiunea<br \/>\nDone\u021bk \u0219i pare permanent atent la cei din jur \u00een timp ce vorbe\u0219te. El poveste\u015fte<br \/>\nc\u0103 familia sa a r\u0103mas \u00een Done\u021bk dup\u0103 venirea ru\u0219ilor nu pentru c\u0103 ar fi<br \/>\nsus\u021binut una dintre tabere, ci pentru c\u0103 acolo era casa lor. Acum nu mai are<br \/>\ndec\u00e2t un obiectiv: s\u0103 ajung\u0103 la so\u021bie \u0219i copii \u0219i s\u0103 nu fie trimis din nou pe<br \/>\nfront.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eO s\u0103 m\u0103 ascund\u201d, spune el \u00een \u0219oapt\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Autorit\u0103\u021bile<br \/>\nucrainene estimeaz\u0103, pe baza informa\u021biilor serviciilor lor, c\u0103 peste 50.000 de<br \/>\noameni din teritoriile ocupate au fost recruta\u021bi \u00eempotriva voin\u021bei lor. Alte<br \/>\nestim\u0103ri plaseaz\u0103 num\u0103rul mult mai sus.<\/p>\n<p>publicitate&#8221;); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat;&#8221;&gt;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0Sicrie \u015fi brazi artificiali pentru Cr\u0103ciun <\/p>\n<p>\u00cen tab\u0103ra de<br \/>\nprizonieri, jurna\u015fi\u015ftii BBC constat\u0103 c\u0103 mul\u0163i lucreaz\u0103 \u00een atelierele<br \/>\n\u00eenchisorii, dar produsele pe care le fac sunt c\u00e2t se poate de diferite. \u00cen<br \/>\napropierea spitalului au plantat c\u0103p\u0219uni \u0219i castrave\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Un oficial care \u00eei<br \/>\n\u00eenso\u0163ea a scos, la un moment dat, un m\u00e2ner din plastic auriu dintr-o geant\u0103 \u0219i i-a<br \/>\nprovocatpe jurnali\u0219ti s\u0103 ghiceasc\u0103 la ce folose\u0219te: \u201eGhici\u021bi pentru ce este?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Odat\u0103 intra\u0163i \u00een<br \/>\natelier, jurnali\u015ftii au avut \u015fi r\u0103spunsul: prizonierii asambleaz\u0103 sicrie.<br \/>\nUltima comand\u0103 primit\u0103 de \u00eenchisoare fusese pentru c\u0103su\u021be de gr\u0103din\u0103, dar acum<br \/>\nobiectele construite acolo au o destina\u021bie cu totul diferit\u0103. \u00centr-un alt<br \/>\natelier, al\u021bi prizonieri fabric\u0103 brazi artificiali de Cr\u0103ciun. Banii c\u00e2\u0219tiga\u021bi<br \/>\nle permit s\u0103 cumpere alimente \u0219i \u021big\u0103ri \u00een plus.<\/p>\n<p>Printre ei se afl\u0103<br \/>\nSerghei, un b\u0103rbat n\u0103scut \u00een Luhansk. El spune c\u0103 se consider\u0103 rus, la fel ca<br \/>\np\u0103rin\u021bii s\u0103i, care s-au mutat \u00een Donbas pe vremea c\u00e2nd Rusia \u0219i Ucraina f\u0103ceau parte<br \/>\ndin Uniunea Sovietic\u0103. <\/p>\n<p>Serghei a intrat \u00een armata<br \/>\nrus\u0103 \u00een urm\u0103 cu zece ani spun\u00e2nd c\u0103 vrea \u201es\u0103-\u015fi ap\u0103re patria\u201d, \u00eens\u0103 acum nu mai<br \/>\ninten\u021bioneaz\u0103 s\u0103 revin\u0103 pe front dup\u0103 ce va fi eliberat.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eMi-am f\u0103cut partea\u201d, crede el.<\/p>\n<p>C\u00e2nd Serghei este<br \/>\n\u00eentrebat cum se \u00eempac\u0103 ideea c\u0103 a luptat \u00eempotriva cona\u0163ionalilor s\u0103i, refuz\u0103<br \/>\ns\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103 \u0219i spune c\u0103 \u00eentrebarea este \u201eprovocatoare\u201d.<\/p>\n<p> \u00cenchisoarea sau<br \/>\nfrontul <\/p>\n<p>Pentru al\u021bi<br \/>\nprizonieri, \u00eenrolarea a fost mai degrab\u0103 o alternativ\u0103 la \u00eenchisoare.<br \/>\nKonstantin, condamnat pentru trafic de droguri, spune c\u0103 a intrat \u00een armata<br \/>\nrus\u0103 \u201eexclusiv\u201d pentru a evita o pedeaps\u0103 de 15 ani.<\/p>\n<p>publicitate&#8221;); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat;&#8221;&gt;<\/p>\n<p>\u201ePentru mine, 15 ani de \u00eenchisoare erau prea mult\u201d, explic\u0103 Konstantin. \u201e\u0218tiu<br \/>\nc\u0103 probabil nu este o scuz\u0103, dar acesta este adev\u0103rul. Acum am 44 de ani, a\u0219 fi<br \/>\navut 60. A\u0219a c\u0103 nu\u201d, explic\u0103 el de ce, de\u015fi este ucrainean, a ales s\u0103<br \/>\n\u00eembrace uniforma rus\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eNu v\u0103d nimic bun \u00een niciun r\u0103zboi, iar \u00eentr-un r\u0103zboi ca<br \/>\nacesta nu poate exista nimic bun, din principiu\u201d, mai spune el, continu\u00e2nd: \u201eNu spun c\u0103 suntem la fel ca ucrainenii, dar suntem apropia\u021bi. Cu to\u021bii<br \/>\navem rude acolo. Pur \u0219i simplu, nu este bine\u201d.<\/p>\n<p> <a class=\"related-inline svelte-78g0vl\" data-gtrack=\"{&quot;event&quot;:&quot;utm_click&quot;,&quot;data&quot;:{&quot;event_category&quot;:&quot;article_related&quot;}}\" href=\"https:\/\/adevarul.ro\/stiri-externe\/rusia\/rusia-refuza-sa-isi-recupereze-o-parte-dintre-2536343.html\" title=\"Alt articol de interes pentru tine\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> Rusia refuz\u0103 s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i recupereze o parte dintre prizonierii de r\u0103zboi. Sute de combatan\u021bi str\u0103ini au r\u0103mas bloca\u021bi \u00een deten\u021bie \u00een Ucraina <\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ace\u0219ti condamna\u021bi,<br \/>\ncunoscu\u021bi drept \u201ev\u0219niki\u201d, ar trebui s\u0103 fie elibera\u021bi dup\u0103 r\u0103zboi, dar numai<br \/>\ndac\u0103 supravie\u021buiesc p\u00e2n\u0103 la \u00eencheierea conflictului. Cei trimi\u0219i \u00een trupele de<br \/>\nasalt au, \u00eens\u0103, \u0219anse reduse s\u0103 ajung\u0103 \u00een acel moment. <\/p>\n<p>Trei b\u0103rba\u021bi<br \/>\ncondamna\u021bi pentru crim\u0103 au povestit c\u0103 se a\u0219teptau s\u0103 fie liberi dup\u0103 un an pe<br \/>\nfront, \u00eens\u0103 contractele lor au fost prelungite automat.<\/p>\n<p>At\u00e2t Konstantin, c\u00e2t<br \/>\n\u0219i Serghei cred c\u0103 r\u0103zboiul mai are mult p\u00e2n\u0103 la final \u0219i c\u0103 Vladimir Putin nu<br \/>\nse va opri \u00eenainte de a controla \u00eentregul Donbas. \u00cen acela\u0219i timp, Konstantin<br \/>\nspune c\u0103 oamenii pe care \u00eei cunoa\u0219te \u00een regiune s-au s\u0103turat de conflict.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eDar to\u021bi cei pe care \u00eei cunosc de acolo s-au s\u0103turat\u201d, spune Konstantin.<br \/>\n\u201eVor doar s\u0103 se termine c\u00e2t mai repede posibil.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> Nimeni nu-i vrea,<br \/>\nsunt doar o moned\u0103 de schimb <\/p>\n<p>\u00cen tab\u0103r\u0103, s-a f\u0103cut<br \/>\nora de mas\u0103. \u00cen timp ce, \u00eembr\u0103ca\u0163i \u00een uniforma albastre, prizonierii m\u0103n\u00e2nc\u0103<br \/>\nsup\u0103 \u0219i toc\u0103ni\u021b\u0103, pe un ecran ruleaz\u0103 \u00eencontinuu un material intitulat \u201eMituri<br \/>\ndespre Crimeea\u201d, care contest\u0103 demonteaz\u0103 Rusiei potrivit c\u0103reia peninsula i-ar<br \/>\napar\u021bine din punct de vedere istoric.<\/p>\n<p>publicitate&#8221;); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat;&#8221;&gt;<\/p>\n<p>Prizonierii nu par<br \/>\n\u00eens\u0103 interesa\u021bi de ceea ce ruleaz\u0103 pe ecran. Chiar \u015fi pentru Kiev mult mai<br \/>\nimportant\u0103 dec\u00e2t \u201ereeducarea\u201d este posibilitatea de a folosi prizonierii \u00een<br \/>\nschimburile de persoane \u0219i de a-\u0219i aduce astfel militarii \u00eenapoi acas\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Cei n\u0103scu\u021bi \u00een Donbas<br \/>\nau \u00eens\u0103 o alt\u0103 problem\u0103: nici Rusia nu pare s\u0103 se gr\u0103beasc\u0103 s\u0103-i recupereze.<br \/>\nKonstantin spune c\u0103 foarte pu\u021bini au fost inclu\u0219i \u00een schimburile de prizonieri<br \/>\ndin acest an.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eDoar vreo doisprezece au fost transfera\u021bi \u00een acest an\u201d, se pl\u00e2nge Konstantin. \u201eSe pare c\u0103 nu vor s\u0103 ne schimbe. 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