Sam’s answer is something he’s thought about.
“I think that’s some of the things he stands for, that’s not everything he stands for… he talks to the working class man in a way that the government aren’t able to. The government are so far detached in their ivory towers, this man has lived and grown up with men on the ground.”
Suzanne has run this village pub, The Flying Pig, for the last seven years and she’s made many changes like introducing a gay night and encouraging more open discussions at the bar about sensitive issues.
A few of the regulars sit and listen to our discussion. Suzanne tells me two small coaches of people went down to the protest march from this area – so why did she go?
“I thought it was really important. I didn’t know it was a Unite the Kingdom rally. I thought it was a freedom of speech march. I think it’s really important not just for us, but for future generations.”
But why did she feel that freedom of speech is under threat and in what way?
“I think it’s coming from all different parties. I think it’s not just from far left or far right. I think it’s from grassroots level of teachers saying you have to use the right pronouns for certain genders. I think it’s coming from people getting the perception again that you can’t fly your flag. I think it’s just trickling in across our whole society really and we can’t accommodate everything all the time, but we should in our own country be able to say what we want.”