{"id":1033814,"date":"2026-06-18T04:29:33","date_gmt":"2026-06-18T04:29:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/1033814\/"},"modified":"2026-06-18T04:29:33","modified_gmt":"2026-06-18T04:29:33","slug":"inside-the-secret-indiana-jones-clash-that-has-vindicated-fans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/1033814\/","title":{"rendered":"Inside the secret Indiana Jones clash that has vindicated fans"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" width=\"646\" height=\"431\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/PRI_148147765-c9ff.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-28695759\" alt=\"HARRISON FORD, SHIA LABEOUF &amp; KAREN ALLEN Character(s): Indiana Jones,Mutt Williams &amp; Marion Ravenwood Film 'INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL' (2008) Directed By STEVEN SPIELBERG 18 May 2008 SSR68947 Allstar\/LUCASFILM (USA 2008) **WARNING** This Photograph is for editorial use only and is the copyright of LUCASFILM and\/or the Photographer assigned by the Film or Production Company &amp; can only be reproduced by publications in conjunction with the promotion of the above Film. A Mandatory Credit To LUCASFILM is required. The Photographer should also be credited when known. No commercial use can be granted without written authority from the Film Company.\" decoding=\"sync\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tIndiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull never sat that well with fans (Picture: Allstar\/Lucasfilm)<\/p>\n<p>Indiana Jones is one of the most beloved franchises in cinema history, spanning over 40 years, five films and a TV prequel series, <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2024\/12\/06\/indiana-jones-great-circle-review-indy-game-year-22133027\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">among other ventures<\/a>, and raking in nearly $2billion (\u00a31.5bn) at the box office.<\/p>\n<p>It also cemented <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/tag\/harrison-ford\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Harrison Ford<\/a> as one of Hollywood\u2019s truly iconic leading men <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2026\/06\/14\/steven-spielbergs-5-best-films-watch-28773442\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">and thrilled fans<\/a> with its throwbacks to 1930s adventure serials and derring-do.<\/p>\n<p>The Nazis were the bad guys, fedoras and whips were the accessories of the moment and archaeology was sexy \u00a0\u2013 all thanks to creator and producer George Lucas, and longtime director <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/tag\/steven-spielberg\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Steven Spielberg<\/a>, to whom Lucas offered the project on the promise that it was \u2018better than <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/tag\/james-bond\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">James Bond<\/a>\u2019 after the Jaws filmmaker had been rejected from the 007 franchise.<\/p>\n<p>But while every Indiana Jones film has been eagerly anticipated and <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2023\/06\/29\/indiana-jones-english-teachers-cute-ritual-with-phoebe-waller-bridge-19030401\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">provided a flavour of its own<\/a>, the fans\u2019 reaction was pretty unanimously muted (to put it mildly) to Indy\u2019s fourth adventure. To put in in context, audiences slapped it with a measly 53% score on Rotten Tomatoes, over 20% adrift of the franchise\u2019s next lowest, and compared to the series\u2019 high of 96%.<\/p>\n<p>Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a long-gestating comeback n 2008, nearly 20 years after Indy and his father Dr Jones Snr (<a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/tag\/sean-connery\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Sean Connery<\/a>) had ridden off into the sunset in the pointedly named Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.<\/p>\n<p>And while The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull may have become the highest-grossing entry in the franchise, earning $786.6m (\u00a3591.6m), it\u2019s also widely considered the weakest in the franchise \u2013 and now we have a reason why.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"927\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/GettyImages-168583731-e1781734110509.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-28276026\" alt=\"Harrison Ford In 'Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom'\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tHarrison Ford fronted the hugely popular five-film franchise that gave archaeology mass appeal as Dr Henry \u2018Indiana\u2019 Jones (Picture: Paramount\/Getty)<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"401\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/SEI_301820749-4ba9.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-28819934\" alt=\"Editorial use only. No book cover usage. Mandatory Credit: Photo by Paramount\/Everett\/Shutterstock (676756l) 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull ', Igor Jijikine (left), Harrison Ford (front left), Cate Blanchett (right of center, pointing) 'Indiana Jones 4' film - 2008\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tHowever, the fourth film, 2008\u2019s The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, was by no means a triumphant return to form after nearly two decades (Picture: Paramount\/Everett\/Shutterstock)<\/p>\n<p>Propelling Indy forward into the 1950s and seeing him deal with being the grumpy elder when it came to his tearaway greaser son Mutt (Shia LaBeouf) might have made sense for the then 60-something Ford, but the character seemed to flounder as well in this new setting.<\/p>\n<p>Then we come to the controversial ending, which saw Indiana Jones suddenly go all sci-fi on us with the revelation that the titular ancient crystal skull from Peru belongs to interdimensional beings that the early Ugha tribes worshipped as gods.<\/p>\n<p>The <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/tag\/aliens\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">alien<\/a> then escapes in\u2026 a flying saucer.<\/p>\n<p>This final act flourish was always difficult for many fans to swallow and now we\u2019ve been vindicated with the revelation that both Ford and Spielberg felt that way too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2018<\/strong>Steven was struggling with that movie. Harrison was struggling with the movie. They didn\u2019t want to do a\u00a0Raiders\u00a0movie that involved aliens, and they kind of got into a fight with George about it,\u2019 confessed producer Kathleen Kennedy in a recent Spielberg oral history piece in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/oral-history-of-steven-spielberg-and-his-movies.html\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/oral-history-of-steven-spielberg-and-his-movies.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Vulture<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"439\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/SEI_301820895-6a6f.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-28819949\" alt=\"Editorial use only. No book cover usage. Mandatory Credit: Photo by Paramount\/Everett\/Shutterstock (676756m) 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull ', Ray Winstone, Shia LaBeouf, Harrison Ford 'Indiana Jones 4' film - 2008\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tThe movie\u2019s finale infamously features aliens (Picture: Paramount\/Everett\/Shutterstock)<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"431\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/SEI_301820894-15f1.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-28819950\" alt=\"Mandatory Credit: Photo by THA\/Shutterstock (15057469al) \" indiana=\"\" jones=\"\" and=\"\" the=\"\" kingdom=\"\" of=\"\" crystal=\"\" skull=\"\" cate=\"\" blanchett=\"\" director=\"\" steven=\"\" spielberg=\"\" producer=\"\" frank=\"\" marshall=\"\" harrison=\"\" ford=\"\" lucasfilm=\"\" ltd.=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tIt\u2019s now been revealed that both director Steven Spielberg and leading man Ford (pictured on set with actress Cate Blanchett and producer Frank Marshall) didn\u2019t like the extra-terrestrial ending (Picture: THA\/Shutterstock)<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2018<\/strong>I wanted it to be kind of a\u00a0War of the Worlds\u00a0sort of thing. Harrison said, \u201cI\u2019m not going to do another science-fiction movie.\u201d And Steven said, \u201cI\u2019m not going to do another science-fiction movie\u201d,\u2019 added Lucas. \u2018I said, \u201cSteven, this is perfect because it\u2019s the 1950s, when flying saucers were a whole thing,\u201d but he said \u201cno\u201d.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Lucas then explained that after \u2018about five scripts\u2019, he and Spielberg finally compromised with \u2018Look, what if they\u2019re not aliens but from another dimension\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Many would argue that\u2019s not much of a difference, with Kennedy confirming \u2018they ended up all of them doing what George wanted to do, which was probably the right thing\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\tWhich is the best Indiana Jones film?<\/p>\n<ul class=\"metro-poll__list\">\n<li data-option=\"option1\" class=\"metro-poll__option\">\n<p>Raiders of the Lost ArkCheck<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-option=\"option2\" class=\"metro-poll__option\">\n<\/li>\n<li data-option=\"option3\" class=\"metro-poll__option\">\n<\/li>\n<li data-option=\"option4\" class=\"metro-poll__option\">\n<p>Kingdom of the Crystal SkullCheck<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li data-option=\"option5\" class=\"metro-poll__option\">\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u2018But Harrison and Steven were not 100% onboard. That\u2019s why the movie, out of the four that Steven made, is the weakest,\u2019 she shared, explaining that that is why Ford was <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2020\/02\/14\/harrison-ford-delighted-back-filming-indiana-jones-5-kicks-off-couple-months-12244021\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">so \u2018deeply committed\u2019 to The Dial of Destiny<\/a> in 2023 \u2013 because \u2018he didn\u2019t want that to be the end\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Again, fans were happy as well to get another Indy adventure and try <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2023\/06\/27\/indiana-jones-cast-emotional-saying-goodbye-to-harrison-ford-character-19020076\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">to end the series on a brighter note<\/a>. Destiny, which was directed by James Mangold, may <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2023\/05\/19\/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-review-indys-so-so-last-hurrah-18812417\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">not have reached especially near the heights of the original<\/a> trilogy, and certainly not 1981\u2019s first outing, Raiders of the Lost Ark \u2013 but it at least stayed away from aliens.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"439\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/SEI_301820715-5f1a.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-28819946\" alt=\"Mandatory Credit: Photo by THA\/Shutterstock (15057469ac) \" indiana=\"\" jones=\"\" and=\"\" the=\"\" kingdom=\"\" of=\"\" crystal=\"\" skull=\"\" executive=\"\" producer=\"\" george=\"\" lucas=\"\" karen=\"\" allen=\"\" lucasfilm=\"\" ltd.=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tSpielberg eventually compromised with creator and producer Lucas, who wanted the sci-fi spin, after five script drafts \u2013 but producer Kathleen Kennedy has now called it the \u2018weakest\u2019 film of the franchise (Picture: THA\/Shutterstock)<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"431\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/SEI_301820752-f269.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-28819921\" alt=\"For Editorial Use Only Mandatory Credit: Photo by Jonathan Olley\/Lucasfilm Ltd\/Shutterstock (15202714i) Harrison Ford, Phoebe Waller-Bridge, \" indiana=\"\" jones=\"\" and=\"\" the=\"\" dial=\"\" of=\"\" destiny=\"\" photo=\"\" credit:=\"\" jonathan=\"\" olley=\"\" lucasfilm=\"\" ltd.=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tIndy actor Ford was \u2018deeply committed\u2019 to returning for 2023\u2019s Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny because he wanted the final movie to be better (Picture: Jonathan Olley\/Lucasfilm Ltd\/Shutterstock)<\/p>\n<p>In this same oral history discussion, Lucas also said that it was Spielberg who \u2018put that last shot in, where they get into a flying saucer and take off\u2019 in Crystal Skull.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018He was rationalising it by saying, \u201cWell, they\u2019re going to another dimension. They have to get there somehow.\u201d I said, \u201cIt looks like a flying saucer.\u201d He did make a science-fiction movie after that, and Harrison did an alien movie.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>This, of course, is the issue that every die-hard fan has always recognised with the movie: that\u2019s not what we watch an Indiana Jones film for.<\/p>\n<p class=\"metro-more-link\">Arrow<br \/>\nMORE: <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2026\/06\/17\/shrek-5-trailer-gingerbreads-bbl-raunchy-age-restricted-28813581\/?ico=more_text_links\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Shrek 5 trailer with Gingerbread\u2019s \u2018BBL\u2019 is so raunchy it\u2019s age-restricted<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"metro-more-link\">Arrow<br \/>\nMORE: <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2026\/06\/15\/tom-hanks-couldnt-stop-laughing-woodys-new-look-toy-story-5-28737395\/?ico=more_text_links\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Tom Hanks\u2019 reaction to Woody\u2019s \u2018traumatising\u2019 bald spot in Toy Story 5 revealed<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"metro-more-link\">Arrow<br \/>\nMORE: <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2026\/06\/12\/terrifying-urban-legend-behind-steven-spielbergs-disclosure-day-28747391\/?ico=more_text_links\" class=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The terrifying urban legend that inspired Steven Spielberg\u2019s new masterpiece<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"metro-button share-bar-comments\" data-vars-position=\"bottom\" href=\"#metro-comments-container\"><br \/>\n\t\t\tComment now<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\tComments<br \/>\n\t\t<\/a><a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" class=\"metro-button share-bar-preferred-source\" data-vars-position=\"bottom\" href=\"https:\/\/google.com\/preferences\/source?q=https:\/\/metro.co.uk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\tAdd Metro as a Preferred Source on Google<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\tAdd as preferred source<br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/a>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull never sat that well with fans (Picture: Allstar\/Lucasfilm) Indiana&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1033815,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_share_on_mastodon":"0"},"categories":[3935],"tags":[77,3063,166892,36544,3943,11820,16,15,7417],"class_list":["post-1033814","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-movies","tag-entertainment","tag-film","tag-george-lucas","tag-harrison-ford","tag-movies","tag-steven-spielberg","tag-uk","tag-united-kingdom","tag-us-film"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/116769232008578879","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1033814","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1033814"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1033814\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1033815"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1033814"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1033814"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1033814"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}