{"id":1064977,"date":"2026-07-03T02:15:18","date_gmt":"2026-07-03T02:15:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/1064977\/"},"modified":"2026-07-03T02:15:18","modified_gmt":"2026-07-03T02:15:18","slug":"can-you-actually-do-a-nine-to-five-phd-nature-readers-weigh-in","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/1064977\/","title":{"rendered":"Can you actually do a nine-to-five PhD? Nature readers weigh in"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Credit: Monty Rakusen\/Getty<\/p>\n

In April, Nature published advice<\/a> from doctoral candidates and PhD holders who had managed the unthinkable: pursuing their PhD nine-to-five, or thereabouts.<\/p>\n

In response to a follow up poll in the Nature Briefing newsletter<\/a>, 20% of 6,046 past and present doctoral students said that they spent up to 40 hours per week on their PhDs. But the vast majority \u2014 78% \u2014 spent more than that, with some saying their PhDs required at least 80 hours a week (see \u2018Clocking in\u2019).<\/p>\n

Readers were asked to reflect on the concept of a nine-to-five PhD. Here\u2019s what they had to say.<\/p>\n

Creativity doesn\u2019t happen nine-to-five<\/p>\n

\u201cThe viability of a nine-to-five PhD depends on the research topic. If it\u2019s experimental, no way. If it\u2019s theoretical, then maybe. But my creativity doesn\u2019t turn on at 9 a.m. and turn off at 5 p.m. Even now, long after graduation, I think about work even in bed.\u201d \u2014 James Cole<\/b>, US government expert on optical and photonic approaches to quantum computing. Graduated in particle physics at the University of Maryland, College Park, in 1987<\/b><\/p>\n

\"ClockingThe PhD workload is omnipresent<\/p>\n

\u201cFrom a well-being perspective, the pressure associated with finishing a PhD, having already secured a job, means that it is nearly impossible to not feel crushing guilt when not working. So, the answer for me is that doing a PhD today means omnipresent work.\u201d \u2014 Andre Comandon, data manager at the Office of Racial Equity for the State of Vermont. Graduated in urban and regional planning from the University of California, Los Angeles, in 2020.<\/b><\/p>\n

Does your supervisor think that you\u2019re putting in the effort?<\/p>\n

\u201cThe main question is, does your supervisor think a PhD can be done in 40 hours per week? Because if not, then you can be as efficient and quick as you want and get everything done, and it will still not be seen as enough.\u201d \u2014 Jens Niemann, postdoc at the Leibniz Research Centre for Working Environment and Human Factors (IfADo) in Dortmund, Germany. Graduated in immunology from IfADo this year.<\/b><\/p>\n

\u201cHow much time is spent on a PhD is usually up to the student. However, everyone working with them is very aware of this choice, and the degree of support the student gets for their research depends on the importance attached to the work by the student, as perceived by those supporting the research.\u201d \u2014 Edward Hartouni, semi-retired consultant. Graduated in experimental physics from Columbia University, New York City, in 1984.<\/b><\/p>\n

A plug for the mid-career PhD<\/p>\n

\u201cI was very fortunate in that my professional paid work and my PhD work were one and the same. In the years since, I have suggested to colleagues who were considering a PhD that, if they can swing it, they should make their paid work the core of their thesis. The key for me was doing my PhD in mid-career.\u201d \u2013 Chris Woodworth-Lynas, self-employed scientific consultant. Graduated in marine geoscience from Bangor University, UK<\/b>, in 1992.<\/b><\/p>\n

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