{"id":125543,"date":"2025-05-23T15:03:10","date_gmt":"2025-05-23T15:03:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/125543\/"},"modified":"2025-05-23T15:03:10","modified_gmt":"2025-05-23T15:03:10","slug":"carragher-and-neville-clash-again-in-liverpool-or-man-united-debate-arrogance-is-unbelievable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/125543\/","title":{"rendered":"Carragher and Neville clash again in Liverpool or Man United debate &#8211; &#8216;Arrogance is unbelievable&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville got dragged back into a heated argument over their beloved Liverpool and Manchester United<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/0_Screenshot-2025-05-23-at-134317.png\" alt=\"Sky Sports pundits Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville clash again over Liverpool and Manchester United\" loading=\"eager\"  \/>Sky Sports pundits Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville clash again over Liverpool and Manchester United(Image: Screenshots: YouTube: Sky Sports Premier League)<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Liverpool legend Jamie Carragher and his Manchester United counterpart Gary Neville were left pulling their hair out once again as the two clashed over a debate regarding their two former clubs. Neither were willing to concede which club was the &#8216;bigger&#8217; of the two.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">This weekend, captain <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/virgil-van-dijk\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Virgil van Dijk<\/a> is set to lift the <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/barclays-premier-league\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Premier League<\/a> trophy in front of 60,000 or so supporters inside <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/anfield\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Anfield<\/a> on the final day of the season, then the following day <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/arne-slot\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Arne Slot<\/a>&#8216;s team are set to <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/sport\/football\/football-news\/inside-liverpool-plans-biggest-party-31667835\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">parade it around the streets of the city<\/a> cheered on by hundreds of thousands. This individual silverware is the 52nd major honour ever won in Liverpool&#8217;s 132-year history.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Meanwhile, at the opposite end of the M62, a fallen giant sits under dark clouds. <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/manchester-united-fc\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Man United<\/a>, fresh from <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/europa-league\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Europa League<\/a> final defeat and sitting 16th in the league standings, now have five fewer major honours in their trophy cabinet compared to the Reds.<\/p>\n<p>READ MORE: <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/sport\/football\/football-news\/mohamed-salah-sets-ambitious-double-31707787\" tabindex=\"0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mohamed Salah sets ambitious double target as Liverpool fear revealed &#8211; &#8216;I had that conversation&#8217;<\/a>READ MORE: <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/sport\/football\/transfer-news\/liverpool-midfielder-could-make-summer-31707123\" tabindex=\"0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Liverpool midfielder could make summer exit after fresh transfer hint made<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">A fierce rivalry between the two clubs is never going to end, nor is one or the other going to give in to such debates over which is more renowned. It is a matter of civic and footballing pride, and is embodied by <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/jamie-carragher\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Carragher<\/a> and <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/gary-neville\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Neville<\/a> when the two former professionals dredged up the debate once again.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">They were prompted to do so by <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/7pxnR9kgaT8?feature=shared\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Sky Sports<\/a>, reviewing what has been the best debate of the 2024\/25 campaign. The entire argument is a rollercoaster, and can be seen in full below.<\/p>\n<p>Full Neville and Carragher transcript:<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">Gary Neville:<\/strong> &#8220;Is that a debate?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">Jamie Carragher:<\/strong> &#8220;Well, it&#8217;s not any more, is it?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;No, hang on.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;We had this one before &#8211; it was hilarious. He actually owned up to it, he said it on TV.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;Oh my God.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;He said it on NBC, his new friends who he does his little bits with.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/sport\/football\/football-news\/gary-neville-doubles-down-liverpool-31544095\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">What Neville had in fact said<\/a> to the Premier League&#8217;s United States broadcaster on April 27th, the day the Reds&#8217; 20th English league title was confirmed, was: &#8220;The accolade of the most successful club\u2014today the debate is over. It&#8217;s Liverpool Football Club.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN: <\/strong>&#8220;Carra. Carra. Carra. Who is the bigger club, Manchester United or Liverpool?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;I tell you how you tried to work it out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;Answer the question. Right, who is the most successful club? At this moment in time, a hundred percent is Liverpool Football Club. It is factual. Right, who is the bigger club?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC: <\/strong>&#8220;So what, you&#8217;ve got a bigger stadium?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;Oh my Goodness (head in hands moment). Who is the bigger club? Answer the question. Say it. Say Liverpool are the bigger club.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;No, Liverpool are the best club, right?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;Go on, say Liverpool are the bigger club. Who is the bigger club? Say it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;Who is the bigger club? How come Manchester United fans talk about themselves as being this biggest club when you don&#8217;t even win European cups, you&#8217;re 16th in the league. Stop believing. You say the &#8216;biggest club in the world&#8217; &#8211; you actually say &#8216;the world&#8217; and you believe it! Your arrogance is unbelievable.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;Who is the biggest club, Liverpool or Manchester United?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;I would say it is 50:50 now, but we&#8217;ve got the most trophies. We&#8217;re, without doubt, the better club. Yous have only got two managers who have won trophies. Without those two managers there is absolutely nothing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;I am big enough to sit here and say in English football.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;What do you mean &#8216;big enough&#8217;? It&#8217;s a fact, you don&#8217;t have to be &#8216;big&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;No, I am saying the most successful club in English footballing history at this moment in time is Liverpool. Who is the biggest club in this country?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC:<\/strong> &#8220;I think it is a toss of a coin.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;Oh dear. I think it is Manchester United. I think they are.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC: <\/strong>&#8220;All I&#8217;m saying is, if someone says to me Man United are the bigger club but we&#8217;re the better club, the more successful club, I&#8217;ll shake hands on that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN: <\/strong>&#8220;Remove better. Remove better. Most successful&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC: <\/strong>&#8220;We are. Better run, at everything.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN:<\/strong> &#8220;You can&#8217;t say that based on the last five, six, seven years?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC: <\/strong>&#8220;You&#8217;ve had two managers who are unbelievable, you lost Sir Matt Busby and got relegated, what type football club does that? You&#8217;re now 16th in the Premier League. I used to be embarrassed to go out the house when I played for Liverpool and we were seventh. You&#8217;re 16th! It&#8217;s unbelievable!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN: <\/strong>&#8220;You&#8217;ve got two league titles in 30 odd years. Don&#8217;t carried away.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">JC: <\/strong>&#8220;And you&#8217;ve won 19 in a hundred odd years?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \"><strong class=\"Strong_strong__e2x35\">GN: <\/strong>&#8220;We will be back.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">At least in the end the two warring pundits could eventually settle on is that this is the best debate they have had all season long.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville got dragged back into a heated argument over their beloved Liverpool and Manchester&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":125544,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8815],"tags":[748,393,1676,4884,4110,179,763,30743,423,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-125543","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-liverpool","8":"tag-britain","9":"tag-england","10":"tag-gary-neville","11":"tag-great-britain","12":"tag-jamie-carragher","13":"tag-liverpool","14":"tag-liverpool-fc","15":"tag-liverpool-premier-league-winners","16":"tag-manchester-united-fc","17":"tag-uk","18":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/114557760639003073","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/125543","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=125543"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/125543\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/125544"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=125543"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=125543"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=125543"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}