{"id":132433,"date":"2025-05-26T05:18:22","date_gmt":"2025-05-26T05:18:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/132433\/"},"modified":"2025-05-26T05:18:22","modified_gmt":"2025-05-26T05:18:22","slug":"why-bristolians-might-be-sceptical-about-a-tram-network-as-potential-route-could-be-coming","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/132433\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Bristolians might be sceptical about a tram network as potential route could be coming"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Junction changes in the city centre will lay an &#8220;obstructed path&#8221; that could eventually be used for a tram route<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/0_GettyImages-1231767624.jpg\" loading=\"eager\"  \/>MANCHESTER, ENGLAND &#8211; MARCH 19: General view of a Metrolink tram on Mosley Street, Manchester city centre on March 19, 2020 in Manchester, England. (Photo by Anthony Devlin\/Getty Images)<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">The number one answer when asking anybody in Bristol what they want to improve about the city tends to be public transport and congestion. But then ambitious plans to actually improve public transport in Bristol are almost always met with derision and disbelief.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">So recent news, that upcoming changes to city centre junctions will lay an \u201cunbroken path\u201d for a <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/news\/bristol-news\/bristol-could-tram-line-city-10195260\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">potential tram route<\/a>, were predictably met with scepticism. One commenter on social media claimed Bristol would be more likely to get a network of \u201cChuckle Brothers cycle cars\u201d than trams.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">The changes will be rolled out over the next couple of years, and will mean buses can travel from the Long Ashton park and ride in the south-west of Bristol, through the city centre and then to the M32 without ever getting stuck in traffic. This will make eventually building a tram route easier.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">However there are a number of hurdles before any construction on tram lines can begin, which if they can be overcome, won\u2019t start <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/news\/bristol-news\/no-mass-transit-system-bristol-9561398\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">until the 2030s<\/a> at the earliest. And Bristol has endured years of rows over whether Bristol should get an underground, and decades of failed tram plans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">The \u201cred route\u201d has long been an ambition of <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/all-about\/bristol-city-council\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Bristol City Council<\/a>. This will run along Cumberland Road, up Redcliff Hill, down Union Street, through a new junction with the Haymarket past Primark, then along Bond Street before getting to the M32 motorway.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1748236699_256_0_red-route.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\"  \/>The red route would run from the south-west to the north-east(Image: Bristol City Council)<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1748236700_787_0_red-route-city-centre.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\"  \/>Junctions in the city centre will be changed for the red route(Image: Bristol City Council)<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">New bus lanes and bus gates were given the green light by councillors on the transport policy committee on Thursday, May 15, who hinted at the longer term benefits of the red route. Green Councillor Emma Edwards said: \u201cThis in future could potentially turn into a mass rapid transit route, whatever that might mean \u2014 more buses or maybe other modes as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Transport bosses at the West of England Combined Authority are already drawing up plans for a mass transit network. They\u2019ve ruled out options that &#8220;involve significant tunnelling\u201d, like an underground, due to concerns about cost. Due to the lengthy planning process the government insists upon, a full business case is expected in either 2029 or 2030, costing \u00a37.8 million.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">The final plans could involve a tram network, or \u201cbus rapid transit\u201d, a cheaper alternative. Then there is the question of who will pay the exorbitant costs of actually building anything, which could reach into the billions of pounds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">The current <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/all-about\/labour-party\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Labour<\/a> government is tightening the purse strings \u2014 but the economy could have improved by then, freeing up more money to invest in public transport infrastructure. A different government could also have been elected by then, with the next general election due in 2029.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Before the Greens took control of Bristol City Council last year, the former Labour mayor <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/all-about\/marvin-rees\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Marvin Rees<\/a> was against the idea of building a tram network, favouring an underground instead. He often said that trams running up Gloucester Road, for example, would cause havoc on neighbouring streets with traffic diverted through residential areas.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Disputes and visceral disdain between Mr Rees and Dan Norris, the former Labour mayor of the West of England, led to years of deadlock until Mr Norris <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/news\/bristol-news\/bristol-underground-dream-shattered-metro-8812562\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">vetoed the underground<\/a> idea in 2023. And the next local elections in Bristol are due in 2028, when a different party could take control, with new leaders who could also be against the idea of trams.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">The new Labour mayor of the West of England, Helen Godwin, was coy in the run up to the regional elections earlier in May about which form of mass transit she preferred. She did claim that she would be best placed to negotiate with the Labour government, due to being in the same party \u2014 although this didn\u2019t appear to benefit relationships between Mr Rees and Mr Norris.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Bristol used to have an extensive tram network before the Nazis bombed its power station and the city\u2019s transport planners didn\u2019t bother repairing it, as cars became more popular. Plans to build a tram network were discussed in the 1970s and 80s, which would have been funded privately as businesses bet on rising land values along the proposed routes and near stations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">These were dropped in the early 1990s as the country went into recession. In the early 2000s, trams were <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/news\/bristol-news\/bristol-supertram-what-happened-shelved-7961670\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">again being planned<\/a> for Bristol, with the first line going from Broadmead to either Almondsbury or Cribbs Causeway. But delays and squabbles between the region\u2019s politicians meant nothing ended up happening \u2014 which might sound eerily familiar to today\u2019s problems.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Although around this time other cities did indeed get tram networks funded by the Labour government under Tony Blair. Nottingham for example has a smaller population than Bristol, and a tram network. Croydon, Birmingham and Manchester are other examples too. And Coventry is currently testing a new technology called <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JrQ9nzXOH80\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cvery light rail\u201d<\/a>, which is cheaper and easier to roll out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">But building transport infrastructure is not something the country is generally good at. Last year a report by the Boston Consulting Group found that infrastructure project costs are <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/9cc19ce5-fbdb-4285-80ac-498f01f97dfd\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">much higher<\/a> in the UK than in France, Germany and Spain. Building a high-speed railway line from London to the north of England suffered incredible cost overruns, and will now only end at Birmingham.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Other infrastructure is hard too: building new schools for example in Bristol has proved difficult. One year group at the new Oasis Temple Quarter Academy will spend <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/news\/bristol-news\/delays-mean-temporary-school-bristol-9799517\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">almost their whole time<\/a> at the high school in temporary classrooms, as the permanent building has been delayed for so long.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Mr Rees said in his <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bristolpost.co.uk\/news\/bristol-news\/mayor-marvin-rees-says-bristol-9164337\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">last public speech<\/a> as mayor that the city suffered from a \u201cdebilitating cynicism\u201d. His flagship policy of building an underground never saw spades in the ground, and his decision to move the planned arena means no construction has yet started.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">However there is a very valid reason why Bristolians might be cynical and sceptical about promises such as trams. 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