{"id":165645,"date":"2025-06-07T18:37:25","date_gmt":"2025-06-07T18:37:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/165645\/"},"modified":"2025-06-07T18:37:25","modified_gmt":"2025-06-07T18:37:25","slug":"we-want-indian-students-german-envoy-slams-trumps-crackdown-offers-germany-as-top-alternative","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/165645\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;We want Indian students&#8221;: German envoy slams Trump\u2019s crackdown, offers Germany as top alternative"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the wake of Donald Trump&#8217;s latest crackdown on foreign students\u2014prompting outrage from Ivy League universities like Harvard\u2014Germany is stepping up with a clear message: Indian students are welcome. In this exclusive interview with India Today Global, German Ambassador to India Dr Philipp Ackermann delivers an emphatic call for Indian talent to consider Germany as a top destination for world-class education. Stressing affordability, opportunity, and openness, Dr Ackermann highlights Germany\u2019s growing intake of Indian students and rejects the notion of screening social media profiles. As America turns inward, is Europe quietly emerging as the new academic haven for ambitious Indians?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question :<\/strong><br \/>How is Germany looking at what has happened in the past two days? The attack on Russia is unprecedented. Russia has never faced such an attack before. We expect a reaction, but did you know about it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>It is quite an operation, one has to say. I&#8217;m getting my knowledge from open sources, but it&#8217;s fascinating to see what such an operation can cause, what damage it can inflict, and how well it was prepared. It&#8217;s quite an impressive military performance, if I may say.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question :<\/strong><br \/>Do you think this was all Ukraine, or was there support from NATO?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>What we know is that the Ukrainians have a very sophisticated drone production. After this war, it will be very interesting for us to see and maybe even purchase. They have a very good way of producing simple but super effective drones. I think what you&#8217;ve seen is a consequence of their years-long development of these drones.<br \/>The Netflix-series-style element was the lorries parked near the airports. That is quite fascinating to see. But I think the devices that struck were Ukrainian productions. You have to see that this is a country that can really produce some very efficient arms.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question :<\/strong><br \/>After Spiders web\u2014while we&#8217;re still trying to find out exactly what happened\u2014it does seem as if the tables have turned. Europe looks like the warring party, whereas the U.S. is talking about peace. This attack came just as the leaders of Russia and Ukraine were about to meet, and it looked like the peace deal was in its final stages. Do you think Europe now bears the brunt of what happens?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>I don\u2019t think the peace deal was in its final stages. When you read the Russian conditions, you&#8217;ll remember the Russians would not even put their ideas on the table before the delegations met.<br \/>Actually, the Russian maximalist positions have not changed, and these positions are unacceptable for the other side. I don\u2019t think there is much of a difference between the U.S. and Europe when it comes to peace. We want to stop this war. We want to sit down and negotiate, but there must be a common understanding of the conditions under which that happens.<\/p>\n<p>When the Russians say they want all the provinces to be regarded as Russian territories\u2014although they haven\u2019t conquered them, and still a third or more is unconquered\u2014then they say no mobilisation of Ukrainian soldiers, no foreign weapons from the West to Ukraine, and neutrality and never becoming a NATO member\u2014that\u2019s not a basis on which you can negotiate. These are maximalist positions.<\/p>\n<p>I think the Americans share this view. We had Senator Lindsey Graham from South Carolina in Berlin yesterday, and he again put his plan for additional sanctions on the table. Apparently, he had very good discussions with the German leadership.<\/p>\n<p>So I think we are not that far away from the Americans when it comes to how such a peace should look. It would be wrong to presume that the Russians came with a ready-made peace deal. That\u2019s not the case.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Do you find Europe standing right now more vulnerable, more worried, because yesterday the Prime Minister of the UK announced heavy investment in deurbanization? I recall.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>I think you have to face the fact that this war changed Europe profoundly. You cannot imagine how much this war changed Europe because\u2014let me be a bit drastic here\u2014we felt that our army, in the last 20 years, could be small because defense of our territory was not a major task. We never saw the territorial integrity of Germany threatened by any enemy from outside.<\/p>\n<p>So what people thought was this is an army for out-of-area missions, like UN peacekeeping or Afghanistan missions\u2014small units, very specialized, and specially equipped. That has changed overnight. Now people are realizing that our army was too small, not well-equipped enough, and not good enough to defend the territory.<\/p>\n<p>Now I think Europe is under a direct and imminent threat from Russia. Of course, not Germany as a country, but it is very clear that the Russians are gathering a lot of troops, armament, and tanks at the Finnish border. It&#8217;s very obvious\u2014you see that on radar photos. They are very close to all the Baltic states and their borders.<\/p>\n<p>So I think an attack on NATO territory is not excluded, and therefore we have to be prepared. What happened in Germany was that overnight we put a lot of money into our army. The army is changing completely. It started three years ago and is undergoing a deep transformation, turning into a very capable defense army.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Ambassador, one of your chiefs\u2014I think it was the army chief\u2014said that he expects an attack on a NATO country in the next four years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>I think there was one very famous German military think tanker\u2014he\u2019s very respected in Germany\u2014who said, in a bit of a dramatic way, that he thinks this summer might be the last summer of peace in Europe.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t share this assessment. I don\u2019t think we are going to war imminently. But what I do share personally, and I think my government is very right when they say this, is that we have to be better prepared.<\/p>\n<p>We have to have an army that has deterrence value. That means more soldiers, better equipment, and more. And that\u2019s what we are doing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Given that you still feel the war is continuing in a sense, we\u2019ve noticed that in the last few months\u2014or even the last year since Prime Minister Modi went to Moscow\u2014there\u2019s been very little of the commentary we saw in the past: that India must do more, that India should step in, that India should have a larger role in stopping the Russian invasion of Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>Do you think European countries, and particularly Germany, have sort of given up on the idea that India will change its stance?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>Frankly, I have to say one thing: if you want to be useful in such a context, the preconditions must be right. The environment must be conducive. Only then can countries like India come into the game.<\/p>\n<p>What we&#8217;ve seen with a big American pressure and effort is that people are coming together, sitting down in Istanbul for one hour, then going elsewhere, or last time for two hours, then leaving. So I think you shouldn\u2019t spill your weight, clout, or influence in a situation where nothing is going to move.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, I understand that India is not really coming to the forefront now because I don\u2019t see the Russians seriously considering negotiations. I don\u2019t see that. I think they are buying time, and buying time is not a good basis for negotiation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Where does the United States stand in this calculus? Because during his previous term, President Donald Trump ordered the withdrawal of U.S. involvement from German territory. After the Ukraine war, and during the Biden administration, we have still seen close cooperation between the United States and Germany.<\/p>\n<p>But with this renewed effort for less U.S. participation in NATO and asking EU countries to contribute more, where do you see the United States\u2014as an active participant and kind of a net security provider for NATO?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>I think we have to say that the United States asking Europe to do more for its own security is, to a certain degree, really justified. We have cashed in on American security for a long time because we didn\u2019t feel protection was so necessary. That has changed\u2014protection is now very necessary.<\/p>\n<p>So I think the American demand to put more money into defense is justified. At the upcoming NATO summit in The Hague, my Chancellor will commit to 5% of GDP. Right now, we spend 2%. He will commit to 5% because we feel the urgency of the hour\u2014we have to step up.<\/p>\n<p>We are not ready to accept such a threat. The Chancellor says the German army will be conventionally the biggest and strongest in Europe, as it should be. We are the most populous and economically wealthy nation\u2014we have to do that, and I think it\u2019s the right thing.<\/p>\n<p>We know this pleases the current American administration for obvious reasons. So, in spite of the sometimes inconsistent expressions from the American side\u2014ups and downs here and there\u2014there is a kind of commitment.<\/p>\n<p>That means if European partners in NATO are really investing more in their security, Americans will also continue to be on our side. So I\u2019m not so pessimistic about that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>But Ambassador, we do see President Trump increasingly frustrated. What&#8217;s Germany&#8217;s assessment on a U.S.-brokered peace deal between Russia and Ukraine? Is there a timeframe, or are we looking at a prolonged conversation over here, given that Turkey now says they&#8217;re willing to host Putin and Zelensky with Donald Trump in the room?<br \/>And also, you know, on a lighter note but going back to the attack, it seems like it was such a planned attack on Russia that when Zelensky was sitting in the Oval Office with Trump, and Trump continued to humiliate him, he knew exactly what he was planning and what he was going to do, because this must have been put in action or was being planned when he was sitting there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>Ukraine has shown that they can do something. They are not on the defensive anymore. They have shown that they can take a step ahead. They can really do quite considerable damage.<br \/>You should not forget they really focus on military airports and military devices\u2014unlike the Russians in Ukraine, where you see very clearly civilian targets being bombed regularly. People die regularly because of that. So it&#8217;s a different warfare, but it&#8217;s a very impressive one.<br \/>I think we will have to live with this war for a certain while. I commend the Americans for trying to get all parties around the table. Maybe it will happen. I think it will only happen if Putin himself shows up in Istanbul or wherever. But for the time being, I don&#8217;t see the Russians really moving a lot.<\/p>\n<p>Question:<br \/>Ambassador, there&#8217;s a view that even after the peace talks\u2014if there is a halt to hostilities\u2014it will turn into a frozen conflict. Both sides will kind of be frozen in their positions. Do you actually see a Cold War 2.0?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>So frozen conflicts\u2014let me say that, you know, there are frozen conflicts in our area. In Georgia there&#8217;s one, in Moldova there&#8217;s one, and there was one in Azerbaijan\u2014basically now resolved. But in small and weak countries, that&#8217;s not so easy.<br \/>In Ukraine, I think, Ukraine has the backing of a lot of countries in the West. It&#8217;s in our immediate neighborhood, unlike Georgia maybe. And I think that will make a sort of classical Russian frozen conflict more difficult than in other parts of the world.<br \/>The Russians are excellent in destructive frozen conflicts\u2014it\u2019s their specialty, I would say\u2014they are really very good at it. But is that possible in Ukraine? To a certain extent, certainly. But it\u2019s not as obvious as it is in, let\u2019s say, a very weak Moldovan country, where you basically have a very thin little thread on the other side of the river, where the Russians really try to destabilize and undermine the stability of the country.<br \/>That\u2019s not so easy in Ukraine. It\u2019s a big country. It\u2019s a country that has now learned a lot over the past couple of years. It\u2019s not a poor country, actually\u2014it can be wealthy. Agriculture is there. Armament production is there. This is a sort of source of income for the country.<br \/>So it\u2019s not so easy with the frozen conflict. And then you should not forget\u2014the Russians are losing people by the hour. It\u2019s very, very costly.<\/p>\n<p>Question:<br \/>So if they&#8217;re losing people by the hour and they&#8217;ve taken horrific losses\u2014100,000, 150,000\u2014would they have the combat potential to threaten Europe after this conflict, where they&#8217;ve lost a lot of people?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>I think it\u2019s a very rational question\u2014a logical question. But you would say that attacking Ukraine is so stupid in many ways for Russia. With hindsight, it comes at such a cost that they should have seen it coming.<br \/>So I think rational and logical ideas or deliberations are not to be taken into consideration when it comes to Russia. I agree with you\u2014it is completely joyless.<br \/>And can they do it? I think if he wants it, they can. Because nobody says no. This is what happens if the power of a country is in the hands of one person.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Also, is there a fear because, you know, Russia is nuclear? And there have been reports of concerns about Russia using tactical nuclear weapons. Is that a real fear for you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>They have always\u2014when it was a little shaky for them\u2014they came up with a nuclear option. But I think that\u2019s not happening.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>I&#8217;m sure you want to discuss bilateral issues much more, but I do want to say that there is another view\u2014and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen it in India\u2014that is not the European view, that actually Russia has come through this war hitting major goals that it wanted to. It is in control of the territory that it annexed in 2022. Nothing seems to have pushed them back, even if it&#8217;s 1 or 2%. Ukraine has now relinquished the areas that they had taken in Russia. By and large, Russia has a life outside of the war. I mean, we&#8217;ve seen the Malaysian Prime Minister&#8217;s there today. Prime Minister Modi has visited. The rest of the world\u2014the non-European world\u2014is dealing with Russia. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>I think it&#8217;s a good point, and I think we should look at Russia through a different angle. But you should not forget\u2014the first and main requirement from the Russians when they talked to the Americans about a ceasefire was lifting the sanctions. That means they&#8217;re hurting big time.<br \/>And you know, it is true that the Russian economy somehow muddled through. They even come to India, the Russian tourists with lots of cash in their bags in order to pay the hotels and stuff. But at the end of the day, I would say Russia lives on a war economy. It has blown up its budget big time for the war economy, that&#8217;s producing arms and armament products endlessly. And this, as we all know, can only last so long.<br \/>So I think they know that they are in a very, very difficult spot, and they need to get rid of the sanctions at some stage. When we talk about the regions, you also have to face the fact that in spite of all the efforts, in spite of the massive military deployment they have\u2014when it comes to airplanes, tanks, but also to people\u2014they have really not moved very much ahead.<\/p>\n<p>The annexed regions were never completely and are not in Russian hands. So it is true they get this eastern 18% or whatever it is, but they have said that the condition is that they get all the regions, also the parts they have not conquered.<br \/>So I think they have basically succeeded in getting their country going. It&#8217;s not a complete breakdown, but it came at a big cost so far. And I think they will not sustain forever. This is so, so costly for them. They will have to at some stage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Taking forward the conversation on Russia and India&#8217;s position on Russia with Trump. I mean, with Biden we knew that Europe had a position very much similar to what he is saying, but with Trump in power now, it just seems like India is on the right side of history in hindsight.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>So when you talk about India-Russia, it&#8217;s automatically coming to Trump\u2014interesting enough. Every foreign policy conversation comes to Trump.<br \/>Yeah, I think India has had a very good start with the Trump administration. I would say an impressive start. But not everything is good between India and the U.S., and that is basically true for all countries.<br \/>There is the trade deal that still has to be done\u2014I think that won&#8217;t be easy. You&#8217;re seeing the steel tariffs coming up again. So I think India started on a very good foot with President Trump, but there are also some aspects that will be difficult for India. And we are all in the same company, you know.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>What about the students now being asked to leave the United States of America universities?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>Let me come in here, because that&#8217;s the message I really want to tell people.<\/p>\n<p>My country is keen on having students from India. We want students from India. We have made excellent experiences with students from India.<br \/>So if you want a first-class education\u2014let&#8217;s say in the STEM area\u2014Germany is really a very good alternative. And I will tell you, we don&#8217;t check social media of students. If you are gifted, if you are ambitious, if you want to achieve something, you get a first-class education in one of Europe&#8217;s most sophisticated research environments at a very low cost.<\/p>\n<p>So I think now is the time to think about Germany. We have 50,000 students of Indian origin in Germany, and we are ready to take more. I don&#8217;t\u2014I frankly do not understand how one can limit the number of foreign, dedicated, ambitious students to a country who are even ready to pay $60,000 to $70,000 fees alone for universities in the U.S.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you know, go to Munich, which is maybe\u2014Technische Universitt Mnchen is one of the world&#8217;s best technical universities. Fees for non-Europeans are 4,000 a year. So it&#8217;s an easy choice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Is this Trump\u2019s loss\u2014to actually come out and say that you don\u2019t want foreign students? Because now we\u2019re seeing other countries come in and say, \u201cWe are here. We are a better alternative.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>So I will tell you what I think. The 20% right-wing party is very worrying, and I don\u2019t make any secret of that. It should really be a wake-up call for the established parties in Germany\u2014for the political forces in Germany\u2014in many ways.<br \/>But I will tell you that we had the head of this party here just last week in India. And when you talk about skilled labour, he recognises that Germany needs skilled labour. Officially, they say as long as people get their jobs, pay their taxes, and are productive members of society, they have no problem with it.<br \/>Now how far that is true\u2014difficult to say. But officially, I think it is not that they say, \u201cLet\u2019s go back to bio-Germany,\u201d you know, where everybody is white and blonde. That\u2019s not what they\u2019re saying.<br \/>They\u2019re saying, in certain areas we have a demographic problem\u2014nobody can deny that. And Germany has made good experiences with Indians.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>When you speak to Indian students or Indian universities looking to place students\u2014I mean, I\u2019ve been covering immigration for some years\u2014and now I see that even our government has stopped speaking up for more visas and that sort of thing, because everybody knows every country is tightening.<br \/>But what the Indian government is working on is these mobility partnerships. Do you think this is the future? In the old days, Indians went to the Gulf, but they never got residency. They never got citizenship in the country they were working in, which was different with Europe, of course.<br \/>Do you think the next generation of students should be prepared in India that they will get permits to work in other countries, but that era of citizenship for Indians in other countries may be drying up?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>No, I don\u2019t think so, frankly. In Germany, you go to Germany, you graduate from a German university, and after that, you have 18 months to find a job\u2014so a year and a half to find a job.<br \/>Five years after you settle in Germany, you can have nationality. And that\u2019s something which is very generously offered in a way. Once you have to prove that you speak German and do a little test\u2014which is basically very easy, I have to say\u2014then you get German nationality, and many people go for that.<br \/>But if you don\u2019t want German nationality\u2014which in an Indian case is absolutely understandable, because you have to give up your Indian passport, not from the Germans but from the Indian side\u2014then you can have a permanent residence in Germany without getting nationality. It\u2019s not a prerequisite. You can choose either or. Demography says, as a science in a way, that one of the most interesting phenomena of migration is what we call circular migration. So you go, you study in Germany, you graduate, you get an engineering job in a German company. And after 7\u20138 years, you go back to India with your knowledge, with your foreign experience, and bring that into your new company.<br \/>That\u2019s basically the ideal version of migration. And I think with the way India is moving\u2014with economic growth, with its private sector becoming really global\u2014that\u2019s a fantastic opportunity.<br \/>Let them work for Siemens in Germany for five years. Maybe they get hired by Siemens in India then, and they come back to India. Basically, people want to go home at a certain moment.<br \/>It\u2019s a choice. It\u2019s difficult to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to stay in Germany or France or the US forever,\u201d when your own country offers you a very good opportunity. And I think in the years to come, we will see more opportunities on the Indian market for those who have been working abroad.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What is the story behind 90,000 jobs?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>It\u2019s a misunderstanding, actually.<br \/>Yeah, it\u2019s a misunderstanding because I said it\u2019s a number. We do about 20\u201325,000 skilled labour visas a year, which is fine but not enough. We would be able to do more and would be willing to do more if needs arise and opportunities are there.<br \/>So one journalist asked me a year ago whether we had a ceiling for these visas. And I said, \u201cI\u2019m not giving you any numbers. I won\u2019t give you a ceiling. You won\u2019t hear numbers like 90,000 from me.\u201d<br \/>And she wrote: 90,000.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Ambassador, I want to switch to the India-Pakistan conflict\u2014the confrontation that took place last month. We saw the new age warfare of drones and missiles play out in the region. The fact that you&#8217;re sitting in Europe, you&#8217;ve seen the Ukrainian assault\u2014does Germany have capabilities in that sector, in air defence systems and drone warfare?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>Yes. The answer is yes, and I think we are talking to the Indian government on that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Talking to the Indian government on cooperation on that front\u2014air defence systems?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>And other things, yes. We are an old partner when it comes to arms and defence with the Indian government, and we continue to be that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>How does it encompass the future trajectory of the cooperation\u2014defence cooperation? What are we talking about regarding the future of the India-Germany defence partnership?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>Let me tell you, the German government has decided\u2014both the previous government and the current one\u2014that India is a strategic partner of Germany. There are very good reasons to support India when it comes to building up its armed forces in a way that they are to be taken seriously and can really do their job. For many reasons in the Pacific and with the neighbour and so forth, we are of the opinion that if you want the Indians to buy less Russian equipment, you have to offer something. Therefore, the German government has decided to be very forthcoming when it comes to arms procurement.<\/p>\n<p>Actually, I have to say that the Indians are also a very interesting arms producer for us. Ammunition, for example. So I think we\u2019ll see more cooperation on this in the coming months and years. The most interesting case, of course, is the submarine case, where we still wait for a decision from the Indian government. But we do hope that the German company TKMS and others like Mittal will get this order. India has very decent defence production. We can also use it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>You&#8217;re not worried, Ambassador, that the current Operation Sindoor standoff is going to change priorities when it comes to acquiring submarines?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>This is for the Indian government to decide, and I\u2019m not privy to the developments after Sindoor. We\u2019ll see. But it\u2019s for the Western Command.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>So it\u2019s a government-to-government deal?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>It\u2019s a private deal\u2014it\u2019s a private company\u2014but we are ready to support this deal at a government-to-government level. Some areas of supporting cooperation are not in detail yet, but that will come once the decision has been taken.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>Before we wrap up this lovely conversation\u2014just about the Pahalgam terror attack because Shubhajit mentioned it\u2014we\u2019ve seen a few countries that have really sided with Pakistan. Most of the world has spoken about de-escalation, condemning the terror attack, but not really talking about terrorism that emanates from Pakistan or how to deal with that. Are they going to stand with India on that front? What is Germany&#8217;s view on the terrorism India faces?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>The Pahalgam attack is one of the worst attacks I\u2019ve seen in recent years. It\u2019s heartbreaking to go into the details. I find it cynical and terrible. If that is not an act of terrorism, I don\u2019t know what is. I\u2019ve been in Kashmir. I\u2019ve seen its development. It was a difficult part of India for a long time, but you see prosperity growing, tourism coming up. It\u2019s such a lovely part of this country. It\u2019s really heartbreaking to see.<\/p>\n<p>We have to fight against every form of terrorism. We can\u2019t tolerate terrorism being accepted or even bred in some areas. I\u2019m very firm in saying that everything we can do in working together with India on this should be undertaken. You\u2019ve seen that my country was very quick in condemning.<\/p>\n<p>The SIU operation has one element which, when I tell people back in Europe, stands out\u2014it was an operation of four days. That, as such, I find rather mature. Look at what else we are facing internationally. I have the greatest respect for a country with such outrage and a constituency here in India that was genuinely upset\u2014for good reasons. That you can lead such an operation so surgically and precisely, and stop it after four days, is remarkable. Look at what the Russians are doing, what the Israelis are doing. That\u2019s something the world can learn from.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>You mentioned operations and sentiments of outrage\u2014especially after the terror incident. How do you see some of the anti-India separatist elements using German territory, misusing civil liberties available in Germany?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>You have to put it in perspective. This is not the biggest secessionist group in Germany. We have 300,000 Indians in Germany, and unlike other Western countries, they are very diverse. We have people from Tamil Nadu, Bengal\u2014it\u2019s not an exclusively or strongly Punjabi community. The voices of this somewhat outdated and strange movement, which nobody really understands, are very few in Germany.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a question of freedom of speech. It\u2019s also a question of working with a strategic partner like India. We have to weigh our options in every single case. Other close friends of ours have much bigger problems with that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>You&#8217;ve always spoken very strongly about Israeli actions in Gaza. Why is Germany not part of the joint statement issued by the UK, France, and Canada?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>You may have seen that our Chancellor has expressed himself in the most concerned way about what\u2019s happening in Gaza. The German government is now reflecting on stopping arms deliveries to Israel.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><br \/>But there does seem to be\u2014especially for the Global South\u2014this idea that when it comes to Europe\u2019s war in Ukraine, civilian deaths count for a lot more. In Gaza, the scale of loss of life is so much greater, and violations of UN norms are so much more visible. Yet we haven\u2019t seen Germany call for sanctions or take any steps comparable to those against Russia.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer:<\/strong><br \/>You have to understand that our relationship with the state of Israel is a very special one. Given our history, we will not be at the forefront of those who act very harshly toward Israel. We carry a historical burden on our shoulders that\u2019s unique. No other country has this kind of relationship. 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