{"id":192880,"date":"2025-06-17T23:07:11","date_gmt":"2025-06-17T23:07:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/192880\/"},"modified":"2025-06-17T23:07:11","modified_gmt":"2025-06-17T23:07:11","slug":"councillor-cleared-over-old-white-men-comments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/192880\/","title":{"rendered":"Councillor cleared over &#8216;old white men&#8217; comments"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>No complaints against councillors were upheld over the last year<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/1_Cllr-Liz-Grey-at-West-Kirby-promenade-Wirral-Photo-by-Colin-Lane.jpg\" alt=\"Cllr Liz Grey at West Kirby promenade, Wirral. \" loading=\"eager\"  \/>A number of complaints were made in the week after the comments were made but none of them were upheld(Image: Colin Lane\/Liverpool Echo)<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">A senior Wirral councillor has been cleared after receiving complaints over comments she made earlier this year Labour councillor Liz Grey, who chairs the council\u2019s environment, climate emergency, and transport committee, came under fire from <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/all-about\/wirral\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">Wirral<\/a> Council&#8217;s Conservatives over what she said during a debate about how the local authority could better engage with the public at a committee meeting on February 19.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">At the meeting, Cllr Grey said the council needed to improve accessibility when it came to engagement, adding: \u201cI was also really mindful of the demographics. My concern is with the demographic reach of our consultations. I know work is being done to improve our consultations and I\u2019m really pleased with that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">\u201cI just feel it\u2019s really important we don\u2019t just listen to <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/news\/liverpool-news\/councillor-under-fire-over-comments-31079507\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">the views of, for example, old white men.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">The comment<a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/news\/liverpool-news\/councillor-under-fire-over-comments-31079507\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">s later sparked a row, with the leader of the council\u2019s Conservative group hitting out at Cllr Grey<\/a> as well as then-Wirral Council leader Cllr Paul Stuart for not asking for the remarks to be withdrawn or Cllr Grey to apologise. Cllr Green said the comments made by Cllr Grey were \u201cderogatory and dismissive,\u201d adding: \u201cIf Councillor Grey is not interested in the views of a significant proportion of the Borough, she is clearly in the wrong job.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">\u201cConservative Councillors will always treat all residents equally, without favour to a particular group, and to be open and transparent in those decisions. Judging by Councillor Grey\u2019s comments, it appears not all councillors are doing so.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Complaints were understood to have been made following the meeting. Papers published ahead of a constitution and standards committee said <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/news\/liverpool-news\/councillor-under-fire-over-comments-31079507\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">a number of complaints were made against councillors between February 20 and 27.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Complaints were made by 11 people between these dates though these may not all be related to Cllr Grey&#8217;s comments. However no breaches of the councillors\u2019 code of conduct was found in any of the cases.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">This was also the case for all complaints made by 19 people between April 2024 and March 2025 bar one which was withdrawn.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">A council report said: \u201cBetween 1 April 2024 and 31 March 2025 a total of 26 complaints in respect of the conduct of 9 Members have been received. The complaints were received from 19 different complainants.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">\u201cThere were 10 complaints raised by Members against other Members. On 3 occasions more than one Member complained about one subject Member in the same complaint.<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">\u201c10 individual members of the public complained about the conduct of one Member on one occasion. 2 members of the public complained about more than one Member in the same complaint. No complaints were referred for a formal investigation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Responding to criticism of the comments from Conservatives and members of the public on social media, Cllr Grey at the time said: \u201cIt is outrageous that Conservatives should present a commentary on my words as though I said the opposite of what they heard me say.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Cllr Grey later <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">told the ECHO<\/a>: \u201cFor the avoidance of doubt, I said that we needed to improve the demographic reach of our consultations as we needed to ensure all groups were listened to and \u201cnot just, for example, older white men,\u201d&#8221;adding: \u201cI hope that helps distinguish the truth from any lies and <a class=\"TextLink_text-link__dBSS0 TextLink_enabled__dJF3l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk\/news\/liverpool-news\/councillor-under-fire-over-comments-31079507\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"\" tabindex=\"0\" rel=\"noopener\">reassures anyone interested that I do indeed value the views of older, white men.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">\u201cIt is just that I want us to hear the views of all other Wirral residents too and our consultations often fail to gain responses from a number of demographic groups, especially young people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"Paragraph_paragraph-text__PVKlh \">Cllr Grey was approached again for comment.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"No complaints against councillors were upheld over the last yearA number of complaints were made in the week&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":192881,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8815],"tags":[748,393,4884,179,285,16,15,8881,9313],"class_list":{"0":"post-192880","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-liverpool","8":"tag-britain","9":"tag-england","10":"tag-great-britain","11":"tag-liverpool","12":"tag-politics","13":"tag-uk","14":"tag-united-kingdom","15":"tag-wirral","16":"tag-wirral-council"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/114701221918693535","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/192880","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=192880"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/192880\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/192881"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=192880"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=192880"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=192880"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}