{"id":20243,"date":"2025-04-14T21:36:08","date_gmt":"2025-04-14T21:36:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/20243\/"},"modified":"2025-04-14T21:36:08","modified_gmt":"2025-04-14T21:36:08","slug":"where-bungies-marathon-audience-is-and-isnt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/20243\/","title":{"rendered":"Where Bungie\u2019s \u2018Marathon\u2019 Audience Is, And Isn\u2019t"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"color-body light-text\" role=\"button\">Destiny 2<\/p>\n<p>Bungie<\/p>\n<p>There will be plenty of time to debate how <a class=\"color-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/paultassi\/2025\/04\/13\/my-honest-thoughts-on-the-marathon-reveal\/\" data-ga-track=\"InternalLink:https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/paultassi\/2025\/04\/13\/my-honest-thoughts-on-the-marathon-reveal\/\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Marathon\" rel=\"noopener\">Marathon<\/a> looks, how it plays, all of that. But the success of the game ultimately comes down to one thing: Can it find an audience? And where?<\/p>\n<p>There are a lot of options here, some better than others, some that are likely going to be completely dry wells. I thought I\u2019d go through them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Destiny Players <\/strong>\u2013 This one is sort of the heartbreaker. Despite being Bungie\u2019s first non-Destiny game in a decade, this is probably just not for most Destiny players. The PvE side of Destiny, the vast majority of its content, has really nothing here, and no PvE content is current planned, says Bungie. Marathon is technically PvPvE, but a limited amount of AI during matches is not going to be the same thing. You will have to transfer from a looter shooter to an extraction shooter which is wildly different.<\/p>\n<p>An exception here may be more dedicated Destiny PvP players, as there are obviously some certainly gameplay\u2026similarities between the two shown off in the footage we\u2019ve seen. It\u2019s a new genre, yes, but I can see a good chunk of that playerbase moving over. My guess is that Destiny players will actually be the largest percentage of purchases, but I don\u2019t think most will stick with the game long term.<\/p>\n<p>But also, Bungie doesn\u2019t want a bunch of Destiny players to leave that game. They\u2019ve been having enough issues with dropping playercounts to want to cannibalize the base of a live game they are still trying to run for many more years to come. More people are in fact still working on Destiny than Marathon over there, by last count. So this is a factor as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"color-body light-text\" role=\"button\">Destiny 2<\/p>\n<p>Bungie<\/p>\n<p>Play Puzzles &amp; Games on Forbes<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tarkov Players<\/strong> \u2013 Obviously the single biggest extraction shooter has to be mentioned here, and if Bungie is going to pull players away from anywhere, it seems likely that they would try to peel off a lot of players here.<\/p>\n<p>The problem being is that Tarkov players, at this point, are going to be pretty loyal to that game, a game that has been around since 2016, a year longer than Destiny 2. It\u2019s hard to track playercount, but if the metrics I can find are right, it\u2019s 100K+ concurrent a day with a remarkably stable playerbase. So even if it\u2019s the same genre, hard sell.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Apex Players <\/strong>\u2013 This might be a good place to harvest some people. Between Marathon\u2019s classes and its gameplay, it feels the most similar to this game, outside of its Destiny elements, perhaps.<\/p>\n<p>Apex still has a ton of players, 180K concurrents on Steam alone as we speak. That said, the game has been steadily dropping since a peak in January of 2023, now less than a third of that two years later, and nearing all-time lows. It feels like there is potential there, perhaps more than most other places, if it\u2019s now on the decline.<\/p>\n<p class=\"color-body light-text\" role=\"button\">Apex Legends<\/p>\n<p>Respawn<\/p>\n<p><strong>Shooter Streamers and Their Audiences \u2013<\/strong> This does include a lot of Destiny streamers, and almost all of the major ones will play during launch. I think a ton of Destiny players will try Marathon (though at a $40 asking price, it\u2019s a bit of a commitment), but staying with it is another story.<\/p>\n<p>However, I also believe that as a big new shooter launch from Bungie, we are going to see A) a huge paid campaign from Sony and Bungie, to get influencers to play it. B) Streamers and YouTubers playing it anyway simply because it will at least be the current big thing in the multiplayer market during that time. If that\u2019s true, if it gets hyped up enough, audiences may listen to those they follow and give it a shot themselves. Of course the\u2026opposite can be true as well, and that could spiral pretty fast.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s tough. It\u2019s a tough situation for any multiplayer shooter to carve out a brand new audience in this day and age, and even those that have still need staying power (Marvel Rivals has lost half its players in three months). Marathon is no different. It can be a hit, but it\u2019s going to be difficult.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Follow me <\/strong><a class=\"color-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PaulTassi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/twitter.com\/PaulTassi\" aria-label=\"on Twitter\"><strong data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/twitter.com\/PaulTassi\">on Twitter<\/strong><\/a><strong>, <\/strong><a class=\"color-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCg6K8i6OGobyZNoPIsCW9uQ?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCg6K8i6OGobyZNoPIsCW9uQ?sub_confirmation=1\" aria-label=\"YouTube\"><strong data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCg6K8i6OGobyZNoPIsCW9uQ?sub_confirmation=1\">YouTube<\/strong><\/a><a class=\"color-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCg6K8i6OGobyZNoPIsCW9uQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCg6K8i6OGobyZNoPIsCW9uQ\" aria-label=\",\"><strong data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCg6K8i6OGobyZNoPIsCW9uQ\">,<\/strong><\/a> <strong>and <\/strong><a class=\"color-link\" href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/paultassi.bsky.social\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/paultassi.bsky.social\" aria-label=\"Bluesky\"><strong data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/paultassi.bsky.social\">Bluesky<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Pick up my sci-fi novels the <\/strong><a class=\"color-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B08G1MRFTM?ref_=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_tkin&amp;binding=kindle_edition\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B08G1MRFTM?ref_=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_tkin&amp;binding=kindle_edition\" aria-label=\"Herokiller series\"><strong data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B08G1MRFTM?ref_=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_tkin&amp;binding=kindle_edition\">Herokiller series<\/strong><\/a> <strong>and <\/strong><a class=\"color-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B08KYDGG73?binding=paperback&amp;ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tpbk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B08KYDGG73?binding=paperback&amp;ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tpbk\" aria-label=\"The Earthborn Trilogy\"><strong data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B08KYDGG73?binding=paperback&amp;ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tpbk\">The Earthborn Trilogy<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Destiny 2 Bungie There will be plenty of time to debate how Marathon looks, how it plays, all&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":20244,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[6957,53,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-20243","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-technology","8":"tag-marathon","9":"tag-technology","10":"tag-uk","11":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/114338475787351952","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20243","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20243"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20243\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/20244"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20243"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20243"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20243"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}