{"id":203394,"date":"2025-06-21T20:33:10","date_gmt":"2025-06-21T20:33:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/203394\/"},"modified":"2025-06-21T20:33:10","modified_gmt":"2025-06-21T20:33:10","slug":"teslas-former-head-of-ai-warns-against-believing-that-self-driving-is-solved","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/203394\/","title":{"rendered":"Tesla&#8217;s former head of AI warns against believing that self-driving is solved"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t<img width=\"1600\" height=\"718\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Andrej-Karpathy.jpg\" class=\"skip-lazy wp-post-image\" alt=\"Andrej Karpathy\"  decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Tesla\u2019s former head of artificial intelligence, Andrej Karpathy, who worked on the automaker\u2019s self-driving effort until 2022, warns against believing that self-driving is solved, and fully autonomous vehicles are happening soon.<\/p>\n<p>Karpathy is a very respected leader in the field of artificial intelligence. <\/p>\n<p>In 2017, Musk poached him from OpenAI and he quickly became the head of Tesla\u2019s AI effort, including leading neural nets for Autopilot and Full Self-Driving.<\/p>\n<p>He<a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2022\/07\/13\/tesla-loses-head-ai-vision-andrej-karpathy-big-loss-autopilot-team\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> left Tesla in 2022 <\/a>and return briefly to OpenAI in 2023 before starting his own in AI education company, Eureka Labs.<\/p>\n<p>\tAdvertisement &#8211; scroll for more content<\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0Slovak-Canadian\u00a0computer scientist is widely regarded as one of the top computer vision experts and he pioneered Tesla\u2019s vision-only approach to self-driving.<\/p>\n<p>Karpathy gave a talk at Y Combinator\u2019s AI Startup School event this week and made some interesting comments about self-driving.<\/p>\n<p>He recounted when a friend working at then Google self-driving company, now Waymo, gave him a ride in a self-driving car in 2013:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>We got into this car and we went for an about 30-minute drive around Palo Alto, highways, streets and so on, and that drive was perfect. Zero intervention. And this was 2013. It was about 12 years ago.It kind of struck me because at the time when I had this perfect drive, this perfect demo, I thought \u201cwell, self-driving is imminent because this just work. This is incredible.\u201d But here we are, 12 years later, and we are still working on autonomy. We are still working on driving (AI) agents. Even now, we haven\u2019t actually solved the problem.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>12 years later, Waymo currently operates over 1,000 vehicles in California, Arizona, and Texas where it completes hundreds of thousands of autonomous rides with paying customers every week, but Karpathy explains that this doesn\u2019t mean autonomy is solved.<\/p>\n<p>He continues:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>You may sees Waymos going around and they look driverless, but there\u2019s still a lot of teleoperation and lot of humans in the loop in this driving.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Waymo has confirmed that it uses some teleopeartion, but it\u2019s not clear to what level. It\u2019s clear that it at least communicates commands to the vehicles remotely when they get stuck.<\/p>\n<p>Kaparthy adds:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>We still haven\u2019t declared success, but I think it\u2019s definitely going to succeed at this point, but it just took a long time.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The engineer added that \u201csoftware is tricky\u201d and that he believes that \u201cAI agents\u201d, which is a term often use to describe AIs that can perform tasks for humans, like driving a vehicle, are going to take time. He believes this is not the year of AI agents, but the decade of AI agents.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s the full presentation:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Electrek\u2019s Take<\/p>\n<p>While Kaparthy didn\u2019t name Tesla, the timing of his comments as Tesla is launching its \u201cRobotaxi\u201d service this weekend is interesting.<\/p>\n<p>It certainly contracdits what his former boss, Elon Musk, is saying: that self-driving is solved. <\/p>\n<p>He highlights the fact that humans are still \u201cin the loop\u201d in Waymo\u2019s vehicles, but we recently learn that this is even more true with Tesla\u2019s Robotaxi launch, which involved not only teleoperation like Waymo, but<a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2025\/06\/20\/tesla-releases-details-robotaxi-launch-safety-monitor-front-seat\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> there\u2019s also a Tesla employee in the front passenger seat ready to press a kill switch.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>As we have often highlighted in recent weeks, Tesla\u2019s Robotaxi launch is simply a game of optics for Tesla to be able to claim a win in self-driving after years of broken promises and missed deadlines just as Waymo is rapidly expanding its own self-driving services.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Tesla Robotaxi launch a game of optics? <\/p>\n<p>Electrek\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FredLambert94?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@fredlambert94<\/a>: \u201cTesla is trying to get a win and say that it \u2018launched its robotaxi on time in June\u2019 when this is basically Tesla\u2019s public FSD with the supervising driver being moved to the passenger seat.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/o3eSyqKxlJ\">pic.twitter.com\/o3eSyqKxlJ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Electrek.co (@ElectrekCo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ElectrekCo\/status\/1936076359559786731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">June 20, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think Kaparthy, who led Tesla\u2019s computer vision effort behind self-driving, knows that has yet to solve the problem and will require human supervision for a while longer. <\/p>\n<p>Based on the best data available, Tesla currently achieves a few hundred miles between critical disengagement with FSD and it needs to get into tends of thousands of miles to achieve a true level 4 autonomous systems.<\/p>\n<p>We are still a few years away from that at best.<\/p>\n<p class=\"disclaimer-affiliate\">FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links. <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/about\/#affiliate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">More.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t<script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Tesla\u2019s former head of artificial intelligence, Andrej Karpathy, who worked on the automaker\u2019s self-driving effort until 2022, warns&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":203395,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3163],"tags":[323,1942,53,16,15],"class_list":{"0":"post-203394","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-artificial-intelligence","8":"tag-ai","9":"tag-artificial-intelligence","10":"tag-technology","11":"tag-uk","12":"tag-united-kingdom"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/114723265312484819","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/203394","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=203394"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/203394\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/203395"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=203394"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=203394"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=203394"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}