{"id":236364,"date":"2025-07-04T03:13:11","date_gmt":"2025-07-04T03:13:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/236364\/"},"modified":"2025-07-04T03:13:11","modified_gmt":"2025-07-04T03:13:11","slug":"welsh-independence-will-unleash-full-potential-as-nationalists-serious-contenders-to-form-next-government-politics-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/236364\/","title":{"rendered":"Welsh independence will unleash &#8216;full potential&#8217; as nationalists serious contenders to form next government\u00a0 | Politics News"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Wales should &#8220;learn&#8221; from the SNP&#8217;s successes in Scotland, according to the man who could well be the next first minister of Wales.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/topic\/plaid-cymru-6671\/1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Plaid Cymru<\/a><\/strong> leader Rhun ap Iorwerth told Sky News: &#8220;I believe that we will not be able to fully release our potential until we&#8217;re an independent nation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He admitted &#8220;not everybody agrees&#8221; but believes there should be a discussion about how to &#8220;edge things forwards&#8221; on independence.<\/p>\n<p>The party leader has ruled out a referendum in his first term but says support for Welsh independence is growing among young voters.<\/p>\n<p>Mr ap Iorwerth, whose party is neck and neck with Reform UK and Labour in the polls to lead the Welsh Parliament next year, says his party takes &#8220;very, very seriously the positive impact&#8221; the SNP has had in Scotland.<\/p>\n<p>          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/skynews-plaid-cymru-snp-humza-yousaf_6956396.jpg\"   alt=\"Rhun ap Iorwerth with SNP leader and Scottish First Minister Humza Yousaf. Pic: SNP\"\/><\/p>\n<p>        Image:<br \/>\n        Rhun ap Iorwerth with SNP leader and Scottish First Minister Humza Yousaf. Pic: SNP<\/p>\n<p>It comes as a government minister admitted there are &#8220;major&#8221; questions about how fairly Wales is funded compared with Scotland.<\/p>\n<p>Stephen Kinnock, the Labour MP for Aberafan Maesteg, told Sky News he and other Welsh MPs are looking for a reassessment of the funding formula.<\/p>\n<p>He said the Barnett formula, which decides the allocation of much of the funding from the treasury to devolved nations, works &#8220;much better&#8221; for Scotland and the industrial heritage and age demographics in Wales mean the nation has been historically underserved.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<\/strong><br \/><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/how-waless-senedd-came-from-local-authority-like-to-fully-fledged-parliament-in-25-years-13128887\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">How Wales&#8217; Sennedd went from local authority like to fully fledged parliament in 25 years<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sdc-article-image__item\" loading=\"lazy\" intrinsicsize=\"768x432\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/skynews-stephen-kinnock_6880159.jpg\"   alt=\"kinock\"\/><\/p>\n<p>        Image:<br \/>\n        Labour MP Stephen Kinnock wants to change the funding formula for Wales<\/p>\n<p>Since Mr Kinnock spoke to Sky News, Wales was awarded \u00a35bn in revenue and capital over three years, largely for rail infrastructure, in the spending review.<\/p>\n<p>However, some Welsh Labour MPs fear the growing nationalist tide could mirror Scotland&#8217;s 2007 shift.<\/p>\n<p>Lessons &#8220;have not been learned&#8221; from Scotland, Labour Member of the Welsh Parliament Lee Waters said.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking to the Labour List website, he warned: &#8220;The control of the party machinery by London HQ, and the disdain of Westminster MPs towards their devolved counterparts were features now and then.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Mr Waters sounded the alarm for Welsh Labour, adding: &#8220;Scottish Labour paid the price for it in 2007. The SNP seized on its chance to form a minority government and used it to build a generation of dominance. Plaid Cymru aim to do the same.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\n         Does Wales get treated unfairly?\n      <\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">It&#8217;s a question that could propel Reform UK or Plaid Cymru to power in Wales this time next year &#8211; a seismic political shift in a nation dominated by Welsh Labour since devolution began.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">The closure of the blast furnaces at Port Talbot, the end of virgin steelmaking in this country, drew comparisons with the government&#8217;s intervention at Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire. Why was an English steelmaking site saved and not a Welsh one?\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">The answer, as Wales MP and government minister Stephen Kinnock tells me, is not straightforward.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">The owners of Scunthorpe were &#8220;actively sabotaging the blast furnaces&#8221;, and Labour were not in power in Westminster when decisions about Port Talbot were being made.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">&#8220;You have to set the bar really high when you&#8217;re going to, as a government, go in and seize the assets of a private company,&#8221; he said.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">But Port Talbot has become symbolic of something bigger, and it&#8217;s not just about steel.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">Last month, a new railway line between Oxford and Cambridge was classed as an England and Wales project, meaning Wales does not get a share of funding, and earlier this year Wales&#8217; first minister said the allocation of HS2 funding was &#8220;unfair&#8221; for Wales.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">But Welsh Labour&#8217;s Eluned Morgan may not have done enough to distance herself from the national party.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">Jac Larner from Wales&#8217; Governance Centre at Cardiff University says her emphasis on the close relationship between Welsh and UK Labour echoes the message from Scottish Labour before their vote collapsed. It makes it &#8220;easier for voters to punish both&#8221; he said.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">Launching his party&#8217;s so-called contract with voters in Merthyr Tydfil, Nigel Farage said Wales has been &#8220;let down&#8221;.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">The Reform UK leaders&#8217; progress in Wales has been notable, but as has that of a lesser known party leader, Plaid Cymru&#8217;s Rhun ap Iorwerth.\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-article-factbox__text\">Can Wales&#8217; nationalist party echo the SNP&#8217;s success in Scotland? Both parties are fishing in the same waters for disillusioned Labour voters. Both have a real shot at power in Wales.\n<\/p>\n<p>Reform UK are also tapping into a mood of discontent in Wales.<\/p>\n<p>Leader Nigel Farage has put re-industrialisation at the centre of his pitch and even pledged to reopen Port Talbot&#8217;s steel blast furnaces.<\/p>\n<p>In last year&#8217;s general election, Reform UK came second in 13 of the 32 Welsh constituencies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sdc-site-video__accessibility-message\" data-role=\"accessibility-message\">Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player<\/p>\n<p>                <img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/skynews-nigel-farage-reform_6937346.jpg\" alt=\"Nigel Farage\"  aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"sdc-site-video__poster-img excluded-image\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                1:37<\/p>\n<p>              <video id=\"id_1a5610e0-1a1f-41b7-9a15-1f4e48e62cb8\" data-embed=\"default\" data-application-id=\"\" class=\"video-js sdc-site-video__tag\" controls=\"\" playsinline=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>              Farage&#8217;s coal pledge in Wales explained<\/p>\n<p>Those close to Mr Farage suggest he sees the Welsh elections next year as an important stepping stone in his ambitions to get to 10 Downing Street.<\/p>\n<p>Asked about Reform UK, the Plaid Cymru leader said he sees it as his &#8220;duty&#8221; to keep the party out of power in Wales.<\/p>\n<p>Mr ap Iorwerth said Mr Farage&#8217;s party &#8220;have no particular interest in developing policy for Wales&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Wales should &#8220;learn&#8221; from the SNP&#8217;s successes in Scotland, according to the man who could well be the&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":236365,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5010],"tags":[748,4884,16,15,1764],"class_list":{"0":"post-236364","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-wales","8":"tag-britain","9":"tag-great-britain","10":"tag-uk","11":"tag-united-kingdom","12":"tag-wales"},"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"https:\/\/pubeurope.com\/@uk\/114792786269331131","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/236364","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=236364"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/236364\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/236365"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=236364"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=236364"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=236364"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}