{"id":249929,"date":"2025-07-09T05:27:09","date_gmt":"2025-07-09T05:27:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/249929\/"},"modified":"2025-07-09T05:27:09","modified_gmt":"2025-07-09T05:27:09","slug":"macron-and-starmer-talk-trump-boats-and-ukraine-but-brexit-is-the-ghost-at-the-banquet-rafael-behr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/249929\/","title":{"rendered":"Macron and Starmer talk Trump, boats and Ukraine \u2013 but Brexit is the ghost at the banquet | Rafael Behr"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">Gilded carriages and royal banquets are not essential tools of modern diplomacy, but nor are they obsolete. In a digital age, when intergovernmental business could easily be conducted online, the analogue grandeur of a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/business\/2025\/jul\/08\/brexit-macron-state-visit-uk-france-trade-trump-tariffs\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">state visit<\/a> feels potent as a bestowal of favour.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">This week Emmanuel Macron is the beneficiary. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2025\/jun\/25\/uk-host-donald-trump-full-state-visit-this-year\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">In September<\/a> it will be Donald Trump. The sequence is not meant to indicate preference. Both relationships are special, say officials. There are enough champagne receptions and sleepovers at Windsor Castle to go around.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">But it is also no accident that the French president was invited ahead of his US counterpart. Trump has had a state visit already, during his first term. Hardly anyone gets two. Macron, by contrast, has been in office since 2017 and dealt with five UK prime ministers. None before <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/keir-starmer\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Keir Starmer<\/a> rolled out the deep red carpet of ceremonial statecraft.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">It was never going to happen with Theresa May or Boris Johnson in No 10. It was conceivable with Rishi Sunak, who got on fine with his French counterpart. As for Liz Truss, when asked during the 2022 Conservative leadership contest whether Macron should be considered friend or foe, she said: \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/video\/2022\/aug\/26\/liz-truss-jury-out-on-whether-macron-is-friend-or-foe-of-uk-video\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The jury\u2019s out<\/a>.\u201d It was a howling display of unsuitability for the job of prime minister. Naturally, with a Brexit-addled Conservative party doing the recruitment, the howler won.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">Evicting the Tories <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2025\/jul\/07\/macron-uk-state-visit-move-on-brexit-nightmare\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">was a necessary<\/a> but not sufficient condition for upgrading cross-Channel relations. Starmer is fairly criticised for entering Downing Street with an undernourished policy agenda, but cultivating contact with the \u00c9lys\u00e9e Palace, laying the foundations of mutual trust, is one area where the effort started in opposition. If all goes to plan, this week\u2019s visit will reward that foresight with policy gains amid the pomp.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">In terms of what registers with a domestic audience, the prime minister\u2019s priority is a deal to obstruct the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2025\/jul\/08\/uk-government-support-france-police-small-boats-channel-crossings\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">traffic in small boats<\/a> ferrying immigrants to the Kentish coast. Whatever Macron agrees on that front, it will be more than he was prepared to do for Starmer\u2019s Tory predecessors. That is the benefit of pragmatic post-Brexit diplomacy. It will also be less than satisfactory to those island-fortress fantasists who can\u2019t forgive a Labour prime minister for proving that constructive engagement with European neighbours gets results.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">But there is still a limit to what can be achieved on a bilateral basis when the Channel is an external EU border. No matter how well disposed Macron might be to Starmer on a personal level, the integrity of the European project comes first.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">Few European leaders were as angry as Macron about Brexit or as determined that the competitive disadvantages of rupture from the single market be locked into the subsequent trade and cooperation agreement. (Boris Johnson was a hapless accomplice to that end, happily giving away valuable economic privilege for fistfuls of worthless sovereignty.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">There is also plenty of history and shared strategic interest between Britain and France that antedate and transcend Brexit. Western Europe\u2019s only nuclear-armed powers, comparable in economic heft, each with a seat on the UN security council, meet peer-to-peer on matters of security and defence. No other continental state is in that club. The longer French and UK dignitaries spend in a room together, the shorter the odds get on someone toasting the entente cordiale.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">That isn\u2019t just sentimental nostalgia now that Starmer and Macron <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2025\/mar\/18\/ukraine-war-briefing-coalition-of-the-willing-military-chiefs-to-assemble-in-london\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">find themselves co-leading<\/a> the \u201ccoalition of the willing\u201d \u2013 a loose affiliation of countries, mostly in Europe, that have pledged to support Ukraine. What that means in practice is unclear. It is partly a commitment to continue arming Kyiv in the face of relentless Russian assaults, partly a determination to maintain pressure on Moscow to stop the killing and partly a promise to help invigilate any ceasefire should one be agreed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">But the risk and feasibility of providing those things are hard to measure. The baseline might be a level of commitment that persuades Trump not to abandon Ukraine, or it could be the cost of replacing the US\u2019s contribution when he bails. Those are very different things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">Last week, the US stopped sending vital air defence equipment to Kyiv on the grounds of \u201cputting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2025\/jul\/02\/us-halts-ukraine-weapons-shipments\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">America\u2019s interests first<\/a>\u201d. This week, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2025\/jul\/08\/ukraine-war-briefing-sanctions-over-russian-chemical-weapons-on-battlefield\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">shipments resumed<\/a>. Trump said he is \u201cnot happy\u201d with the Russian president. If so, his displeasure isn\u2019t so strong that he supports European efforts to tighten energy sanctions on Moscow.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">Trump\u2019s chaotic, capricious attitude makes it hard for Volodymyr Zelenskyy\u2019s more stalwart allies to establish what their coalition might really be willing to do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">It is a question of survival for Ukraine, but also an existential challenge to all democracies on the continent. Should Europe be sprinting for strategic autonomy because Washington is unreliable? Or are military deterrence and self-defence without the US security backstop such remote ambitions that the real task is knowing the price that a racketeer president demands in protection money, and paying it? The awkward answer is both: hope to forestall the betrayal and prepare for it too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">A subsidiary question is how biddable Trump really is, and by what means. Starmer and Macron come at this from slightly different angles. Both recognise that flattery is essential. But the French president also has defiance in his repertoire. He has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2025\/jun\/15\/emmanuel-macron-criticises-donald-trump-threats-take-over-greenland\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">publicly rebuked<\/a> the US president\u2019s threats to annex Greenland, for example.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">Starmer\u2019s method is all emollience. Downing Street says the rewards speak for themselves in preferential trade terms. And it is true that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/2025\/jun\/16\/starmer-and-trump-finalise-uk-us-trade-deal-at-g7-but-steel-tariffs-still-on-hold\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Britain got a lower tariff deal<\/a>, although that only means <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/business\/2025\/jul\/07\/uk-steel-trump-tariffs-exports-us-deal\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">relative leniency<\/a> for an uncertain period in a regime of arbitrary extortion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">The real difference between Macron and Starmer when it comes to Trump is not a matter of negotiating tactics or temperament but of geopolitical arithmetic. A French president speaks to Washington as part of a 27-nation bloc of sufficient collective market size to count as an economic superpower. A British prime minister goes into the Oval Office alone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-16w5gq9\">And that is more significant than a ride in a horse-drawn coach and dinner with King Charles, which isn\u2019t to say a state visit is unimportant or unimpressive. It is a real projection of status. But one that usually means more to the diminished host than the honoured guest.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Gilded carriages and royal banquets are not essential tools of modern diplomacy, but nor are they obsolete. 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