{"id":262644,"date":"2025-07-13T22:16:11","date_gmt":"2025-07-13T22:16:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/262644\/"},"modified":"2025-07-13T22:16:11","modified_gmt":"2025-07-13T22:16:11","slug":"andy-burnham-wants-to-take-manchester-underground-news-uk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/262644\/","title":{"rendered":"Andy Burnham wants to take Manchester underground | News UK"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" width=\"646\" height=\"371\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SEI_254250845-c652.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-23327755\" alt=\"Manchester trams in the city centre at a stop.\" decoding=\"sync\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tManchester could be the latest British city to construct and underground metro system, after Andy Burnham unveiled plans for subterranean lines this week (Picture: Getty Images)<\/p>\n<p>Andy Burnham pricked up ears this week when he unveiled ambitious plans for an underground railway in <a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/tag\/manchester\/\" data-track=\"inline-tag-auto-link_article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Manchester<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The Mayor of Greater Manchester said the city\u2019s transport network would have to go underground by 2050 if it is to keep up with the demand.<\/p>\n<p>Outlining his ten-year strategy earlier this week, Burnham promised Britain\u2019s third largest city its \u2018best decade since the Victorian era\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Burnham announced the eye-catching proposals, centred around a flagship underground hub at Piccadilly railway station.<\/p>\n<p>Citing the limits of expanding the city\u2019s existing Metrolink tram network on the surface, Burnham announced he had instructed Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) to \u2018start planning\u2019 for an underground network.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\tSign up for all of the latest stories\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>Start your day informed with Metro&#8217;s <strong><a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/newsletters\/news-updates\/?signup-source=news-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">News Updates<\/a><\/strong> newsletter or get <strong><a data-ico=\"hyperlink-article\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/newsletters\/breaking-news?ito=news-article&amp;?signup_source=news-article-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Breaking News<\/a> <\/strong>alerts the moment it happens. <\/p>\n<p>Manchester previously experimented with the concept of a \u2018Tube\u2019 like railway between its two major stations, Piccadilly and Victoria.<\/p>\n<p>The plan, dubbed the \u2018Picc-Vic\u2019, was considered in the 1970s.<\/p>\n<p>Trains would have run every two to three minutes in twin tunnels between the hubs, and ten minutes to areas outside of the city centre.<\/p>\n<p>But it was abandoned after the Westminster government decided the costs were prohibitive, having been estimated at more than \u00a39million (or \u00a3139million in today\u2019s money).<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"431\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SEI_251224952-f82b.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-23566140\" alt=\"Andy Burnham, Mayor of Greater Manchester, speaks to the media on College Green in Westminster, London, during a press conference alongside Huw Merriman, Chair of the Liverpool-Manchester Railway Partnership Board, and Steve Rotheram, Mayor of the Liverpool City Region (not pictured), as they call on the government to include the Liverpool-Manchester Railway project in its 10-Year Infrastructure Strategy. Picture date: Wednesday May 14, 2025. PA Photo. Photo credit should read: James Manning\/PA Wire\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tSetting out his ten-year strategy last week, Mayor of Greater Manchester Andy Burnham promised to usher the city\u2019s \u2018best decade since the Victorian era\u2019 (Picture: PA)<br \/>\nHow would an underground system work?<\/p>\n<p>In his speech, Burnham said the Bee Network, which comprises of Manchester\u2019s Metrolink tram network as well as buses which have been brought under local authority control was fast reaching its capacity.<\/p>\n<p>He said: \u2018We are building the Bee Network on the surface. If we achieve our economic ambitions, we will be struggling to manage.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I am going to ask Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) to look at options for underground services. We will work with the government to look at financing it.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>The new subterranean concept would be centred around a new interchange at Piccadilly Station, he said.<\/p>\n<p>It would complement the existing tram system, which runs on a mix of dedicated lines and streets shared with road traffic.<\/p>\n<p>As well as relieving congestion on the local and suburban rail network, it would offer better connectivity within the city centre.<\/p>\n<p>A total of 42 million passenger journeys are made on the tram network alone \u2013 up from 25 million in 2012.<\/p>\n<p>The idea of an underground station at the city\u2019s main rail terminus was previously considered as part of the now cancelled leg of HS2 and in plans for a new railway between Liverpool and Manchester.<\/p>\n<p>Has Manchester attempted an underground system before?<\/p>\n<p>In 1971, Manchester\u2019s then transport authority presented plans to go underground, with promotional artwork depicting Victoria Line style tube trains which would run on a 2.75 mile between Piccadilly and Victoria.<\/p>\n<p>The Picc-Vicc railway formed part of a four-phase 25-year plan for Manchester\u2019s transport system.<\/p>\n<p>The same decade, partially underground mass transit systems were established in both Liverpool and Newcastle.<\/p>\n<p>But the Manchester scheme never took off after a failure to secure central government funding for the project, which would have cost \u00a3139million in today\u2019s money.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, the city revived its tram network, closed in 1949. The Metrolink has expanded to 99 stops across 64 miles of track.<\/p>\n<p>In 2012, remains of the tunnel scheme were discovered by two lecturers at the University of Manchester.<\/p>\n<p>Dr Martin Dodge and Richard Brook found what would have been the beginnings of a station dug 30ft below the Arndale shopping centre.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"818\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SEI_258897332-616c.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-23652300\" alt=\"Proposed route for the Manchester Picc-Vic underground system. http:\/\/www.metromapsoftheworld.com\/PipeDreams\/PiccVic\/\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tThe planned route for the 1970s Picc-Vic railway system, plans for which were scrapped after failing to secure funding (Picture: Courtesy Manchester Archive)<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img width=\"646\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.europesays.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SEI_258896850-b57f.jpg\" class=\"article-image wp-image-23652304\" alt=\"Remains of Manchester tube system unearthed A mysterious space underneath Manchester?s Arndale shopping centre has been identified as the initial stages of a long forgotten underground railway through the city centre.According to Dr Martin Dodge from The University of Manchester and Richard Brook from the Manchester School of Architecture, the `void' was the beginnings of a station intended to be part of a 2.3 mile-long route.The space ? forgotten for decades and closed off to the public but rediscovered by the two lecturers - is under Topshop about 30 feet below the surface and was built to link the Arndale to the new station.\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"\/><br \/>\n\t\tThe remains of the planned railway scheme, found in 2012 30ft below the city\u2019s Arndale shopping centre (Picture: Courtesy of Charlotte Martin, Manchester Arndale)<br \/>\nHow much would a Manchester underground network cost?<\/p>\n<p>One major obstacle to the project, like its 1970s predecessor, would be its inevitably huge cost, with underground railways notoriously expensive to develop and construct.<\/p>\n<p>London\u2019s Elizabeth Line was delivered at a final cost of \u00a318.8billion, significantly up from the \u00a314.8billion originally budgeted for the scheme.<\/p>\n<p>The cost of Burnham\u2019s ambitious \u2018tube\u2019 plans would certainly be measured in the billions, possibly as much as \u00a310billion for what would almost certainly be a far shorter railway than Crossrail, an expert has said.<\/p>\n<p>David Leeder, from consultancy Transport Investment Limited, said the mayor would struggle to deliver the scheme from local taxes and would instead rely on a grant from Westminster. <\/p>\n<p>He told Metro: \u2018Yes, the rail infrastructure in Manchester is undoubtedly crowded, but how will a multi billion pound scheme actually be funded when we are on the precipice of a public spending and borrowing crisis?<\/p>\n<p>\u2018The city mayors are set up in such a way that their default answer is always \u2018by a grant from the DfT \/ HM Treasury, to be paid for by taxes that mainly fall on London and the south east\u2019.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>He added that the scheme, given its complexity, could eat up \u2018hundreds of millions\u2019 in just the development stage, and would likely require operating subsidies in the region of \u2018tens of millions per annum\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018The passenger volumes in Manchester are a fraction of those in London.\u00a0 Yes it was very hard to make an economic case for the Elizabeth Line, even with such huge volumes, so it will be harder still in Manchester\u2019, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><strong><strong><strong>Get in touch with our news team by emailing us at <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/metro.co.uk\/2025\/07\/13\/manchester-uks-next-city-go-underground-23645082\/mailto:webnews@metro.co.uk\" 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